If you are interested, or may have missed it, this was an interesting piece written by a forum of rights holders managers in a slightly different area of this discussion,

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:2VzwNbiXK7EJ:www.hm- treasury.gov.uk/media/50D/68/music_managers_forum_414_505kb.pdf+shuki +sen&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&client=safari

"Freeing content" is one way of putting it, perhaps the opposite is also true.... how best to get the greatest value from that same content. There is no need for an RSS channel for us mere mortals on the outside...:-) I spent the whole of last night watching Top Gear, about 6 hours of programmes that I have never seen, with more links and extra detail than I could imagine.....

Cat and Bag come to mind ...

At the end of the day it is all digital media, therefore I think the music business can prove to everyone how easy it is to completely lose the public support and push the original manufacturers, ie. Artists, Writers, Producers, to other places on the net with their own content. Truly this is a huge debate, potentially there may be a point in time where the net itself does the distribution/sharing of media direct to the customer, freely .... and without law. Mmmmmmm, interesting.

Richard Edwards

On 18 Dec 2006, at 17:59, Ian Forrester wrote:


I agree. I strongly agree. I've worked for GNU for 10 years. I've eaten Chinese food with Richard Stallman.
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I've eaten Indian with Mr Stallman

I've been thinking for a while about how to start persuading the BBC of this. I don't think there's a problem persuading people like Ian. I'm pretty sure they understand.


One of the reasons I suggested Ian as a replacment to Michael Grade is that the BBC need his level of understanding in that post. There is a lot to change. There are a lot of legal problems in freeing content. But it does need to be freed if the BBC is to remain relevant to Britain. Absolutely. No question.
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Geez, I'd better dust off my suit then :)

But seriously there are a lot of people around the BBC that really get it. They are looking at the next 10+ years not what's just around the corner. What's good for the nation and not just what's good for the BBC at the moment. I do think we will get someone like your suggesting up near the top very soon.


Unfortunately, the Backstage community appears uninterested in talking
about Free Software media formats, and why they are important. (I
don't know why this is.)


I am interested in talking about it. I know others here are. But the >trouble is we can't solve the problem. We need to get the management >thinking about the rights of the licence payer instead of the rights of >the talent.
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I'm not so sure its that black and white. Like most things there is a huge amount of grey in between. The BBC does certainly think about the licence payer, "audiences are in everything we do." But seriously we do. I would use the turning of a oil tanker to explain the change. It takes time and you can speed things up a little but ultimately it takes time. Time not only for the BBC but for public perception and values.

The BBC would not exist without the public and as we move into a much more connected future, I would agree that we need corperations like the BBC more that ever before. As you point out if the BBC did launch a "channel" on Democracy as such. It might pull in people like my parents and maybe even open their minds to more grassroots content. Hey maybe even inspire them to create their own!

On side point - I'm surprised no ones tried turning all the BBC content on YouTube and other darker places into a RSS channel.
Not that I'm suggested you do that of course!


Maybe we should try and get more BBC managers here.
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How do you know there not watching this already? Seriously!

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