> A part of what you say shows exactly why a new "global"
> standard needs to be designed to catalogue digital data. The
> time has come, for copyright reasons as well as real control
> factors, to identify every single piece of digital data that
> is produced at source. From the output of a camera or a live
> microphone, all the way through to TV/Radio/Net.... all of it
> is now digitised at some point.
> Surely at the point of encoding it will make the connections
> you speak of so much easier to control. Just select from a
> database in any control room.
> As in CD's, it needs date of production,owner,country and
> maybe a specific numerical tag to ID the exact content.
> A url is simply not enough, or too complicated, to allow the
> convergence that we are now seeing. With this, all bit-stream
> readers, from computers onwards, could read that code. I know
> it is a "big" issue, and perhaps not for Backstage, but the
> effect would be tremendous.... we could all then produce,
> connect, choose or even pay, with that same tiny professional code.
Yes, I agree. I was going to say that there should be some 'global story
code' but I thought that would make my explanation more complex than
required.
The idea I had was that a master database could always convert the story URL
into the relevant 'global story code'. It's always easier to implement a
system that is built on a well-supported existing system than roll out a new
one, IMHO.
>
> On a lighter note, isn't it funny that there is always
> someone available on commercial shows to add, "phone lines
> now closed" on a repeat. :-) I have seen it a lot, and find
> it very amusing.
>
> RichE
>
>
> On 12 Jan 2007, at 19:59, George Wright wrote:
>
> > Brian Butterworth wrote:
> >> Nice idea for a side-by-side information system for Five
> Live. I've
> >> said before that it would be great for the BBC's live news
> services
> >> (so, Radio 4, Five Live, News24 and BBC World) to constantly
> >> broadcast a live news.bbc.co.uk unique identifier alongside each
> >> story.
> >>
> > .<snip>
> >> On digital TV it would be very handy for the current story to made
> >> available IN FULL as part of the OpenTV (satellite) or MHEG5
> >> (Freeview) service. These "red button" services have
> very, very cut
> >> down versions of the stories on their services (to save
> bandwidth and
> >> increase response times), but it wouldn't break the bitstream bank
> >> for the full text of one story to be accessible in full by
> pressing
> >> the red button.
> >
> > Hi there. I work in Interactive TV development at the BBC.
> This is an
> > interesting idea. A few things about it immediately spring to mind:
> >
> > * We don't always have associated (on iTV) stories for
> each bulletin
> > that News produces (there are a lot of bulletins, and a lot of
> > channels, and limited space for text content, as you've
> noticed) - so
> > what do we do when there's no iTV content around a specific story
> > within a bulletin?
> >
> > * We're seeing increasing use of time shifted viewing -
> (Vod, PVRs,
> > the catchup TV stuff we're doing, home brew Myth/ whatever boxes) -
> > and unless these save the MHEG/ data stream (unlikely for most of
> > them) anyone viewing after the event will, at best, be taken to a
> > completely unrelated story. Not a deal-breaker, but still a bit
> > annoying
> >
> > * If the story *does* exist, how do we identify it? Some stuff's
> > easy(ish) - ('new Bush announcement', 'UK Minister
> resigns', etc) -
> > but a lot of more complex stories might have a number of different
> > options. This will involve human intervention or some
> clever munging
> > to match up - which could go wrong.
> >
> > * If we have identified the story correctly, mapping it
> precisely to
> > the time of the slot within the bulletin will be hard (bulletins go
> > out live and don't always stick to the running order). It'd
> probably
> > involve some one pushing buttons in the playout area iun
> real time to
> > sync it to the
> > broadcast- and to do that for all our bulletins is a lot of people
> > doing a lot of button pushing :(
> >
> > * There's an unpredictable latency between stuff being TXed
> and being
> > displayed by the receiver/ STB (depending on platform,
> satellite, etc
> > etc) . This could mean we have 'stale', 'unrelated' content
> around the
> > story.
> >
> > * Ugh, regional variation (of linear news bulletins compared to our
> > relatively un-regionalised iTV content)
> >
> > * Assuming all the above are solved (gets out magic wand), we still
> > have to get the viewer to the content. The 'bridge' (right
> hand side
> > bar you get when you press red) has space for specific
> content slots,
> > and main headlines, etc - but tbh whatever's on BBC News at
> 1822 on a
> > slow news day might not make the cut - and if we can't get
> the viewer
> > to the content, all the above is lost. It wouldn't be an option to
> > take people straight to the news story in question simply by them
> > pressing the red button - not everyone's pressing red to
> find out more
> > information on said news story
> >
> > All that said, it is something to think about. Interested
> in people's
> > thoughts.
> >
> >> Also, for PC reception of Freeview or DSat, a current-story-
> >> identifier would - software permitting -allow XP Media
> Center, Vista
> >> Ultimate etc to link to a relevant web page.
> >
> > Where would we put this data track? And how would the
> software at the
> > other end decode it? There's limited support for MHEG decoding/
> > browsing on consumer DVB-T PC cards, and I don't know that we'd be
> > embedding urls in TV based content. I'm also unsure of any consumer
> > Open TV based decoder for PCs, which would rule out people
> moving to
> > content from a DSAT stream.
> >
> > Regards and thanks for the thought-provoking idea
> >
> > George
> >
> >
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