You & Jacob talk as if the two (good design/accessiblity & "web 2.0") are mutually exclusive. There is nothing stopping a "Web 2.0" site being well designed or accessible, as I showed before they are actually *more* likely to be.
I notice that you've added the word "accessible". Jacob doesn't mention it. Flickr and Twitter are well built (and argueably accessible), and there is always the mobile versions to get to the content... http://m.flickr.com http://m.twitter.com Most of these sites (if well built) will work perfectly/almost perfectly with javascript and/or CSS turned off as well, which solves the live region, notification, and some navigation issues. J -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' ????????????" Sent: 15 May 2007 12:52 To: [email protected] Subject: [backstage] Web 2.0 'neglecting good Accessible design' Jason & Gordon any good Accessible Web 2.0 websites you'd care to plug? or are you in a rush? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 15 May 2007, at 10:18, Jason Cartwright wrote: This is all my personal opinion, and I entirely disagree. Mr Nielsen has a history of spouting contrary opinions to court controversy and gain publicity for himself and his company. "Web 2.0"[1] (for me at least) incorporates best practice methodologies of developing to standards (and the consequences of this, such as progressive enhancement etc) and "trusting users as co-developers" [2]. These core principals of "Web 2.0" encourage good design. As with any technology, "Web 2.0" will be misused - it's not the technology's fault that this happens, it's the designer/developer that fouled it up's problem. That doesn't look as good when you're goading mainstream journos into writing about you though, does it? J [1] I've stuck all these in quotes, as I think "Web 2.0" means different things to different people. [2] Tim O'Reilly -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ~:'' ???????????? Sent: 15 May 2007 08:48 To: [email protected] Subject: [backstage] Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design' Jakob Nielsen: Web 2.0 'neglecting good design' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6653119.stm seems to have copied my pitch for hackday ~:" has he been invited? was I? did anyone else have ideas or requirements for an accessible SVG front end? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd Accessibility Consultant on Learning Disabilities and the Internet http://www.eas-i.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/[email protected]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
