On 19/06/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 18:41 +0100, vijay chopra wrote:
> On 18/06/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>         ACSS decryption code? :)
>
> You mean 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 ?

No, that's just a decryption key. I meant the whole of the software
package which decodes ACSS. Like libdvdcss does for CSS.

It's the CSS situation which highlights just how silly the situation
with DRM is -- the criminals are almost entirely unaffected, and the
only people who are _really_ inconvenienced are the honest consumers who
just want to watch the content to which they're entitled. Honest people
are scared to distribute and use libdvdcss, because they think they
might have legal problems if they do. Obviously the ones who are using
it to break the law anyway don't care about that, so they just go ahead.


I totally agree, however seeing as I have no intention of breaking the
spirit of the law (I may be breaching a technicality) I have no qualms in
using any software to break copy protection to make personal backups, and
supply it to others if requested. I regularly get told by friends and family
"my computer won't let me copy this DVD" my reply is either to do it for
them, or give them a CD with the appropriate tools on it.
I doubt that the BPI is likely to come after me as a pirate (Argghh!) as I
only back up for personal use, and only use file sharing services in legal
ways. The only thing I have downloaded unlawfully is an out of print RPG
book, that I would be happy to pay for, if only I could find someone selling
it!


In english that's; thirteen undecillion, two hundred fifty six decillion,
> two hundred seventy eight nonillion, eight hundred eighty seven
octillion,
> nine hundred eighty nine septillion, four hundred fifty seven sexillion,
six
> hundred fifty one quintillion, eighteen quadrillion, eight hundred sixty
> five trillion, nine hundred one billion, four hundred one million, seven
> hundred four thousand, six hundred forty.

That's American, not English.


Granted; I just got that number off the net as I cant be bothered to work it
out for myself.

Sure I will, you can't copyright a number, and I'd like to see anyone
> try and sue me for posing one.

We digress.... but I'm dubious about that argument. You can represent
_anything_ with 'just a number'. I could buy a DVD, decrypt it and send
the entire thing to this list in hex form, calling it 'just a number'.
Would that make it OK?


The flipside to that is when does it become a "normal" number again? I
translated the ACSS decryption key back into base10 if I were then to
perform various other mathematical functions on it would it stop being the
ACSS key? What if I needed that number for another purpose? I'm not saying
that posting an entire DVD in hex is OK, just asking questions.


--
dwmw2

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