Whereas I had the advantage there, because all I had to do was dive into C:\iPlayer Content ;) nowt wrong with oldskool! :D
_____ From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 June 2007 22:18 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info Sorry, I'm a bit oldscool and still think of my wrappers being AVIs - being a bit Visual Basic 3! I meant WMV. As the iPlayer downloads the complete file before playback, there is no requirement to stream. Conceptually you have a file wrapped up like this: ( < { [audio]+[video] ] VCodec } DRM > WMV ) The VCodec the BBC use is WMV9, I was presuming it was the WM9 MPEG-4 based codec because of the quality and bitrate, I havn't got a file to hand to check however... On 19/06/07, Christopher Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Eh? The iPlayer content is WMV format, WMA 9.1 and WMV9 with the MS DRM implementation. I always thought because WMV files are ASF-based, and streamable, they were discrete audio and video streams within the WMV wrapper? _____ From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 June 2007 15:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [backstage] www.FreeTheBBC.info <http://www.freethebbc.info/> David, The files transferred using iPlayer are just .AVI wrappers of MPEG-4 type content. The DRM is inside the AVI wrapper, outside of the MPEG-4. On 19/06/07, David Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 12:50 +0100, David Greaves wrote: > DRM, being technological, cannot turn a blind eye to the law. The law > is supposed to be a bit fuzzy. DRM doesn't even cope with the clear-cut cases without screwing the consumer over, let alone the 'fuzz'. My partner is a high school teacher, and is therefore covered by the ERA licensing scheme¹ -- effectively she's allowed to record BBC (and other) content and use it for educational purposes without many restrictions at all. >From DVB this is nice and easy -- I stream MPEG to a file and she can do what she likes with it. (Well, I then do what she tells me she'd like.) Does the misguided iPlayer DRM scheme allow this? I'm not on the trial (perhaps my Linux/PowerPC hosts weren't considered suitable?) but I strongly suspect not. -- dwmw2 ¹ http://www.era.org.uk/about_era.html - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk <http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/> discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv <http://www.ukfree.tv/> -- Please email me back if you need any more help. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv
