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On 29/10/2007, Simon Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > sorry for late reply, I've been on holiday. I agree that the splash page > is annoying - my 3 year old can't get past it as she can't read it and > doesn't know what it's for. But I guess she is young to surf alone. > > Anyway, back to the point, deep linking is possible right now with a bit > of js: http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/ > > and there are plans to build deep linking into flex3 (due out in early > 2008): > http://flexwiki.adobe.com/confluence/display/ADOBE/Flex+3+Details++-+Deep+Linking > > There are a couple of other things I'm currently investigating to make > more accessible flash: > > http://blog.space150.com/2007/1/11/faust-flash-augmenting-standards > http://warpspire.com/journal/web-production/7-flash-myths/ > > But really, despite the fact that by far the bulk of my programming > experience is in flash, I'm coming around to wondering what really, really > needs to be in flash these days when there are js libraries like mootools > out there. Also, increasingly, I get annoyed with flash taking the > keyboard focus rendering browser keyboard shortcuts unusable and don't get > me started on no text resizing (yes, I know about sIFR). > > Currently my list to support the use of flash instead of js consists of: > > video > sockets > > err, that's it. > > Anything else seems to be unnecessary but maybe some of you out there can > correct me? > > S. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *cisnky > *Sent:* 27 October 2007 16:32 > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [backstage] flash accessibility > > "but flash generally doesn't allow deep linking" > > How do you work that out? > > > On 10/15/07, "~:'' ありがとうございました。" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Simon, > > > > apologies, can be a bit blunt if not downright wrong at times... > > peepo.com and peepo.co.uk are projects I ran for many years, designed > > for the independent user who can navigate if not the operating system > > then have fun browsing the web if not in a sandbox, a select group of > > appropriate links. > > but flash generally doesn't allow deep linking, so each time the > > visitor comes to this site they need help, to get past the first splash. > > > > fwiw, by mistake I opened in Opera, and the cursor isn't visible once > > in the site, but not in the active window, probably a bug, but a real > > nuisance for carers. > > > > regards > > > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet > > > > > > > > On 15 Oct 2007, at 09:40, Simon Cobb wrote: > > > > I'm sorry Jonathan, I've read this a few times now and I don't > > understand your question: "maybe you are considering the webcam question > > doesn't need to be switch accessible?" > > > > This is an interesting subject for me, could you ask the question > > another way please? > > > > Thanks > > > > S. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' > > ????????????" > > Sent: 15 October 2007 09:21 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [backstage] flash accessibility > > > > Simon & Jason, > > > > maybe you are considering the webcam question doesn't need to be switch > > accessible? > > of course that makes the user dependent on others and is 'frustrating' > > to say the least... > > Camino 2007101201 2.0a1pre, the smaller window pops open, but seems to > > close immediately > > > > regards > > > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet > > > > > > > > On 15 Oct 2007, at 08:45, Simon Cobb wrote: > > > > > > Ah... Apple, the champions of open technology and freedom of the user to > > choose. Your choice of computer kind of invalidates your righteous anger > > at commerical vendors, no? > > > > Of course, I'm just being mischevious :) > > > > Because Flash is my business, I had to go and check your claims on the > > Mac on our testbench. > > > > I'll give you that INTG doesn't work in IE on the Mac. But really, who > > is using IE/ Mac? Is it realistic for anyone to have to support it in > > 2007? Certainly, cbeebies client statistics agree, showing almost 100% > > using a windows based browser. Further, I've also found through my > > research on Flash accessibility that almost all users with accessibility > > requirements would also usually use a windows-based machine. > > > > As for the INTG freeze on IE/ Mac, if you want my best guess, I'd say > > that IE/ Mac is unable to allow Flash to perform the operating system > > check at the start of the INTG application. > > > > If so, it's ironic because this os check was especially put in for Mac > > users. > > > > Some Macs have a built-in webcam that users might not be aware is on and > > > > thus be baffled when the webcam parts of the game show unexepected > > views. > > > > In order that the application's functionality was most accessible to all > > Mac users, this check makes sure the user can nominate the webcam to > > use. > > > > Lastly, for what it's worth, Cbeebies client stats show that almost 100% > > of visitors use windows-based machines. > > > > "space and return don't work in any browser" > > > > Got to refute that - I just used it in Safari and it worked just fine. > > Works in ubuntu linux (my daughter loves this game), works on a windows > > machine. I'd say that just about covers it for access unless through > > choice you have made flash unavailable. > > > > S. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of "~:'' > > ????????????" > > Sent: 13 October 2007 06:30 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [backstage] flash accessibility > > > > Some BBC staff have been known to trumpet the accessibility features of > > flash. > > the BBC is also known to have tied itself into this commercial vendor. > > > > Can someone explain why on my OS X machine at least the supposedly > > switch accessible: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/inthenightgarden/flash/index.shtml > > space and return don't work in any browser and IE crashes > > > > cheers > > > > Jonathan Chetwynd > > Accessibility Consultant on Media Literacy and the Internet > > > > > > > > - > > Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. 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