On 13/12/07 20:27, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13/12/2007, Matthew Cashmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Sorry Dave - we can't drop the NC restriction... > > Please explain why :-) The backstage podcast is from the BBC - so like all other BBC Content it can't be used in any commercial sense - so just like the backstage licence for the data we release, we also ask that the podcasts contain a NC clause. > >> ...and we've talked about the Ogg Vorbis version before :-) >> Please do feel free to grab the MP3 and encode and make it available in any >> format you'd like! > > We did talk about this before, but you did not reply to my last email > about this topic, so I consider it unresolved. I've appended it and > look forward to your response :-) > Apologies I thought I had - MP3 works on everyone's computer with free (as in cost) software - it just works for everyone and we're more than happy for people to take the podcast and re-encode them to what-ever format people want. I do understand your concerns about the patents surrounding the MP3 format, but do not feel our time is best spent encoding into separate formats when we know MP3 will work for everyone. > Also, checking http://blip.tv/file/339619 now, I see it is still > Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs - which prohibits > re-encoding. Please update this. Sorry about that - the podcast sitting in the new blip channel here has the correct licence http://backstage.blip.tv/file/539214 But the one on my account does not - I'll go and fix that right now. From now on the podcasts will only be appearing in the dedicated backstage blip channel (and therefore in the RSS feed!) M > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 29 Aug 2007 22:05 > Subject: Re: [backstage] Latest Podcast - Edinburgh TV Unfestival - Is TV > Dead? > To: Matthew Cashmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On 28/08/2007, Matthew Cashmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hey dude - actually only the first one was converted to ogg - the rest have >> just been MP3 > > The second was also ogg - http://cubicgarden.blip.tv/file/330803/ - as > are most audio things that Ian puts out personally, afaik > >> more than happy for people to take the files and convert >> them to what-ever format they'd like and then post them up somewhere like >> blip.tv or where-ever. > > The problem with most other formats is that they are patent > restricted. The software idea patent system need to be abolished, and > until it is, anyone who supports open innovation needs to support > patent unemcumbered media formats such as those written by the Xiph > Foundation. > > If Backstage is to champion open innovation at the BBC effectively, it > is important that it supports unrestricted media codecs. > > Therefore it is important that Backstage publish ogg theora audio officially. > >> It's just the first podcast had so few downloads of the ogg format that I >> decided the best thing to do was put it out in the most popular format > > Is popularity more important than principle? > >> supported by a licence that allowed people to take it and re-encode it and >> then make that version public again... Part of the community.... > > http://blip.tv/file/339619 is Creative Commons > Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs which prohibits re-encoding, > although I assume this is a mistake. > >> Otherwise I could spend all afternoon converting to formats people would >> like! > > The issue isn't converting to user-requested formats, since with the > right license in place they can take care of themselves; the issue is > resolving the software idea patent problem - so people can actually do > that conversion without legal risk. _______________________ Matthew Cashmore Development Producer BBC Future Media & Technology, Research and Innovation BC5C3, Broadcast Centre, Media Village, W12 7TP T: 020 8008 3959 (02 83959) M: 07711 913241 (072 83959) - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
