Simon, Ben - I like that idea. Use whatever tools you like. Get a thing built. Assess success or failure, lather rinse repeat.

Ian - your original question was this:
"If we ran a competition which required the final prototype to be in Adobe Air, how would people feel about that?"

So ok we now have some answers. Clearly some people have strong feelings about not using AIR - as in specifically boycotting it, other people don't have any problem with using it and there are, I'm sure, lots of shades of grey in between.

It does seem like there would be enthusiasm for a competition of some sort involving writing RIAs, with lots of options for tools-of-choice. (Correct me if I'm wrong here guys). So what I'd absolutely love is a bit more clarity on what prompted the quesiton in the first place.

As far as any suggestions go, I think it would be great to let people use whatever tools their personal belief system allowed, without restricting anyone else's freedom to make their own choices. If a competition was run that was promoted by and affiliated with Backstage that was focused entirely on a single technology (be it whatever) then it could be argued that we were failing to be even a little bit thorough in our investigative approach. If Adobe wish to run something and Backstage is generally interested in the output of it, then that is a different kettle of squid - it's understandable that Adobe would run a competition biased towards an Adobe product and Backstagers should feel free to take part as they see fit. I would be incredibly unhappy with a curtailment of my rights to learn, understand and investigate for the sake of a single viewpoint/belief system, which (whatever it's merits) is not one that every person on this list has subscribed to. I would also be unhappy if we were seen to be playing favourites.

I've left this list once before, because whilst it's full of interesting people, I've absolutely no interest in watching them bang their heads against each other in the same way over and over again. I still have no interest in that. Whilst it is your right to speak it is also everyone elses right to not to have to listen. If this is going to get religious, then I'm out of here.

So yeah, Ian - more clarity please.

All my love,

Alia











Dave Crossland wrote:
2008/7/4 simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Ben's suggestion to allow the people to choose their RIA flavour whether it
be AIR, gears or whatever is very sensible.

Surely the main thing is that a good idea gets built.

Surely the main thing is that we preserve our freedom to understand
and share the software we use to do our computation.

Using software running on other people's servers to do _our_
computation also tramples our freedom, and this is becoming more
common with RIA technology.

"If your software would keep us divided and helpless, please don't
write it. We are better off without it. We will find other ways to use
our computers, and preserve our freedom."
- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7487060.stm

Cheers,
Dave
Personal opinion only.
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