On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:42 AM, Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting point of debate.
> This logic says that it is possible only to have an opinion if you speak the
> language of the country that you have a though about.
> This is just silly, I can like a part of Wales without speaking Welsh!

The logic is more like "the English speaking world has a different
opinion than the Spanish speaking world."  This is frequently true,
since you can hear more comments, first hands accounts and more
diverse opinions in a given sphere of language.  In the US, electoral
candidates often run different messages in English and Spanish,
sometimes hoping one isn't listening to the others.

If I spoke only English, I would have to rely on selected Spanish
translations and individual excerpts from the Anglosphere - not the
much fuller coverage and mass bulk of first hand material in the
original language.

In the US, I often muse how American English news will cover
hurricanes like, "A hurricane is nearing Haiti.... Dominican
Republic....  Cuba"  Ignoring the millions of Americans in Puerto
Rico.  I always go to Spanish speaking Puerto Rican source for
accurate or *any* information

Ethnic media has always been important for this very reason.  Often
minority group issues only get coverage if it impacts the majority or
in power group.  Which means, the news is often slanted towards
conflict.

One excellent example of this slant was the coverage of the March 11
attacks in Spain.  The US was blaming certain groups and talking about
how the citizens were fearful of Al Qaeda to switch parties,
meanwhile, the front page of elpais.es online had the letter claiming
responsibility and a host of other information showing the citizenry
was more upset that the government seemed to actively lie about the
source of the attacks.  Two entirely different stories.  My guess is
the majority of Americans still believe Spain buckleld under a bombing
as opposed to reacting to the specific actions of their government
like they reported.

I think the Ambassador has a strong point.  The first thing is - BBC
has the capacity to get more direct spanish speaking sources.  A
smaller source might not.  But any reporter worth their salt knows the
conflict in Venezuela is largely between the minority wealthy and the
majority poor, which translates often into bilingual English speaking
and Spanish or indigenous speaking people.  English speakers are more
likely to be inculturated by English speaking media or already "on
that side."

I don't think it's a realistic argument for anyone to suggest the best
way for asking a Spanish speaking population their experience is to do
it in English or even in their English outlets.  It would be much more
effective and accurate to reach out to people in the outlets produced
in their native language.

If we were to ask Iraqis their experience since Saddam Hussein's fall,
would it be best to do ask in English, Spanish or Arabic?
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