We support phones usually through m.domain where the customer pays us
to write a specific version otherwise we'd consider graceful
degredation to be enough to support the majority of Phones.
Writing a mobile version is usually about delivering a significantly
stripped and optimised version rather than a different stylesheet.
This is always our preffered option.
A well thought out mobile design WILL work across the majority of
phones. Browser sniffing, res sniffing etc are all things that I
hoped had died a long time ago. In the case of mobile versions the
simplification of the site 'should' lead to an easy to adapt/degrade
'design' which will work in most browsers.
Yes I do own an iPhone but the key word was 'significant'. My feeling
is that if the facebooks etc of the world are doing an iPhone specific
version then it's likely that platform offers a worthwhile ROI. The
user base 'might' be different in your app but If it is then doubt
there is any one platform/browser combination that significantly
appears head and shoulders above the others.
It's also important to note that the iPhone offers a higher level of
navigational control than it's competitors (excluding the latest
android phones which I haven't had a chance to test yet) therefore it
is possible to treat it as an interesting middle ground between
traditional desktop and traditional mobile experience.
Alun
On 20 Jul 2009, at 15:57, "Brian Butterworth" <briant...@freeview.tv>
wrote:
2009/7/20 Alun Rowe <alun.r...@pentangle.co.uk>
I agree with the first paragraph and then you lose me beyond that.
M.whatever.com serving mobile optimised pages using good CSS
'should' work
on any platform.
If you want to optimise per platform then go ahead but the return is
low
value IMO.
The only platform I'd bother with is iPhone if I was customising as
the
usage is significant enough for me to actually see it on our stats.
Given there are 11,233 types of phone listed in the WURFL, just
developing for the phone you have (that is my assumption) is a bit
short-sighted, surely?
A good argument could be made that you don't get the hits, because
you don't support the phones.
So far the people who have hit the test are using:
apple_generic
apple_iphone_ver3
blackberry7730_ver1_sub400midp
danger_hiptop_ver1
goodaccess_ver1_submsiepalmos
google_wireless_transcoder_ver1_subua
htc_magic_ver1
htc_p3700_ver1_subopera950
htc_touch_dual_ver1_subminimo
lg_kp500_ver1
mot_q9h_ver1_subie711
nokia_5800d_ver1_sub210025
nokia_e71_ver1_sub10000776
opera_mini_ver3_sub19903
opera_mini_ver4_sub213221
opera_mini_ver4_sub213221
opera_mini_ver4_sub213918
samsung_sgh_i900_ver1_subopera95_subua
sonyericsson_k800i_ver1_subr1kg
sonyericsson_x1i_ver1_subr1aa_o2
stupid_novarra_proxy
tmobile_mda_varioiii_ver1
tmobile_sda_ver1_sub10
tmobile_sda_ver1_sub10
upg1_ver1_subblazer40
upg1_ver_1_subblazer43do50448
usha_lexus_888b_ver1
Alun
On 20/07/2009 11:58, "Iain Wallace" <ikwall...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Trying to match the style/layout of a site to the expected
resolution
> of the device that you think is displaying it is going about it the
> wrong way - this is why CSS has percentage widths for doing layouts.
>
> Or is the question more about what you can send back to the server
in
> order to choose an image size?
>
> If you want an example of something that does this quite well, visit
> the iPhone/Android optimised interface for Google Reader using a
user
> agent switcher. This will load up images in atom feeds and then
> instantly resize them in javascript to fit the page width.
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Brian Butterworth<briant...@freeview.tv
>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've been looking at adapting some sites to work better on mobile
devices.
>> I can do the stripping down everything to text and minimal
graphics and so
>> on, that's the easy bit.
>> Does anyone know of anything reliable that can tell me the width
in pixels
>> of the device?
>> I was hoping that Glow would cover this, but it does't.
>> --
>>
>> Brian Butterworth
>>
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