On 23-Oct-2009, at 09:36, Andrew Pipes wrote:

Can you expand on that note about listings please Mo?

Do you want more date/time information about when a programme was
broadcast surfaced? Or a better interface for exploring back in time
instead of by letter/source? At the moment we're just trying to keep it
as simple as is necessary.

The latter, although actual programme metadata is useful (because you don’t necessarily know from a summary or title whether it’s the episode of something you’re looking for, whereas you may well know that you saw “last week’s” broadcast).

Primarily, it was the ability to browse by channel+day, both for things which have already aired, and the upcoming programmes—much as iPlayer tries to do (though iPlayer’s UX quite often bugs me in this respect!)

e.g., if somebody says “did you see that documentary on More4 on Tuesday about how right-wing extremism is making its way into parish councils?”, it should be trivial to track down based on the available information—at worst there are a limited number of programmes which would have aired on More4 on Tuesday, so even if you don’t know the title, it should be easy to find with the aid of listings tie-in.

Similarly, if you know a programme is airing at some point in the next 12 hours on a channel, being able to see (quite prominently) at a glance whether it’s available/coming soon/will be up later+ETA is quite useful.

I know it’s tricky when you pull in solely on-demand content, but sheer “popularity” only goes so far as a useful metric for end-users. More metadata! ;)

My expectation of a good aggregator is one which takes the best aspects of iPlayer+4oD+ITV Player+etc (and by that I don’t just mean the raw content!) and presents a unified view of that. TTT certainly manages the latter, but my gut feeling is that it’s a more close fit with YouTube’s fairly lightweight metadata than iPlayer’s (and presumably 4oD’s) richness—and rather than using what’s available wherever possible, it mostly seems to drag everything down to YouTube’s level. I could be misreading it all—I haven’t explored deeply, but then arguably I shouldn’t have to in order to get a good idea of what it can do.

What I don’t get is… why is it separate from 4oD and a strictly limited-budget experimental thing? Why not just have 4oD’s web interface support multiple content streams? Political issues?

(Actually, given the YouTube deal, is this a prototype for what’s to come?)

Er, hope that helps in some small way!

M.

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