Thanks Mo. Yes, agreed on all counts.

But no, TTT is not a prototype of what's to come on Youtube :)

andy

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Sent: 23 October 2009 10:43
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Subject: Re: [backstage] FYI: Open iPlayer


On 23-Oct-2009, at 09:36, Andrew Pipes wrote:

> Can you expand on that note about listings please Mo?
>
> Do you want more date/time information about when a programme was
> broadcast surfaced? Or a better interface for exploring back in time
> instead of by letter/source? At the moment we're just trying to keep  
> it
> as simple as is necessary.

The latter, although actual programme metadata is useful (because you  
dont necessarily know from a summary or title whether its the  
episode of something youre looking for, whereas you may well know  
that you saw last weeks broadcast).

Primarily, it was the ability to browse by channel+day, both for  
things which have already aired, and the upcoming programmesmuch as  
iPlayer tries to do (though iPlayers UX quite often bugs me in this  
respect!)

e.g., if somebody says did you see that documentary on More4 on  
Tuesday about how right-wing extremism is making its way into parish  
councils?, it should be trivial to track down based on the available  
informationat worst there are a limited number of programmes which  
would have aired on More4 on Tuesday, so even if you dont know the  
title, it should be easy to find with the aid of listings tie-in.

Similarly, if you know a programme is airing at some point in the next  
12 hours on a channel, being able to see (quite prominently) at a  
glance whether its available/coming soon/will be up later+ETA is  
quite useful.

I know its tricky when you pull in solely on-demand content, but  
sheer popularity only goes so far as a useful metric for end-users.  
More metadata! ;)

My expectation of a good aggregator is one which takes the best  
aspects of iPlayer+4oD+ITV Player+etc (and by that I dont just mean  
the raw content!) and presents a unified view of that. TTT certainly  
manages the latter, but my gut feeling is that its a more close fit  
with YouTubes fairly lightweight metadata than iPlayers (and  
presumably 4oDs) richnessand rather than using whats available  
wherever possible, it mostly seems to drag everything down to  
YouTubes level. I could be misreading it allI havent explored  
deeply, but then arguably I shouldnt have to in order to get a good  
idea of what it can do.

What I dont get is why is it separate from 4oD and a strictly  
limited-budget experimental thing? Why not just have 4oDs web  
interface support multiple content streams? Political issues?

(Actually, given the YouTube deal, is this a prototype for whats to  
come?)

Er, hope that helps in some small way!

M.

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