You realise that Open Source isn't an organisation that designs software,
right? You also realise we've had SWF verification software for quite a long
time and we're happily using it to download video behind SWF verified flash
apps?

I really don't think user experience is the issue. My user experience with
iPlayer is that I get home and all my favourite TV shows have magically been
downloaded and are visible in Boxee, watchable in HD at a time when my ISP
is normally dealing with a mass of traffic. get_iplayer has a pretty big
user base without a shiny UI because most people want software to do what
they want first and then have it looking cool doing it later.

get_iplayer was better than BBC's effort because it enabled HD playback on
Linux, which was not something they'd managed before. BeebPlayer was better
than the BBC's efforts because it enabled playback on Android, which was
something they hadn't managed before.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Kieran Kunhya <[email protected]> wrote:

> What actually needs to happen is that Open Source needs to call the BBCs
> bluff by actually implementing the SWF verification stuff and producing an
> application with a compelling user experience that matches or is better than
> anything else on offer.
>
> --- On *Thu, 27/5/10, Richard P Edwards <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Richard P Edwards <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [backstage] Re: [backstage] Re: get_iplayer 2.77 release (was
> Re: [backstage] get_iplayer dropped in response to BBC’s lack of support for
> open source)
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 16:07
>
>
> I thought this was an interesting summary....
>
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bbc_drm_and_demise_get_iplayer_what_hell_going
>
> I read some quite thought provoking stories of what the Publishers are up
> to ..... so once PACT and other old fashioned societies get involved, then
> the "unintended" consequences could be quite tragic.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On 27 May 2010, at 09:47, Brian Butterworth wrote:
>
> I think the people from PACT got it all banned.  After all, they have their
> own interests to look after, you can't blame them.
>
> It's not as if the money is from the public or anything.
>
> On 26 May 2010 23:28, Alex Cockell 
> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Considering it's now being handled here - do we have anyone with any
>> clout as to getting get_iplayer supported officially?
>>
>> Just thinking that there is precedent for a download/streaming engine
>> separate to playback client - just look toward the EBU... :)
>>
>> Watching with interest...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
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>> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
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