Jason Hughes wrote:
> Evren Yurtesen wrote:
>> I know that the bottleneck is the disk. I am using a single ide disk 
>> to take the backups, only 4 machines and 2 backups running at a 
>> time(if I am not remembering wrong).
>>
>> I see that it is possible to use raid to solve this problem to some 
>> extent but the real solution is to change backuppc in such way that it 
>> wont use so much disk operations.
>>   
> 
> 
> The whole purpose of live backup media is to use the media.  What you 
> may be noticing is that perhaps your drive is mounted with access time 
> being tracked.  You should check that your fstab has "noatime" as a 
> parameter for your mounted data volume.  This probably cuts the seeks 
> down by nearly half or more.

I have noatime.

> And, you could consider buying a faster drive, or one with a larger 
> buffer.  Some IDE drives have pathetically small buffers and slow 
> rotation rates.  That makes for a greater need for seeking, and worse 
> seek performance.

Well this is a seagate barracuda 7200rpm drive with 8mb cache ST3250824A
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/manuals/ata/100389997c.pdf

Perhaps it is not the maximum amount of cache one can have on a drive 
but it is not that bad really.


> Also, if your server is a single-proc, you'll probably want to reduce it 
> to 1 simultaneous backup, not 2.  Heck, if you are seeing bad thrashing 
> on the disk, it would have better coherence if you stick to 1 anyway.  
> Increase your memory and you may see less virtual memory swapping as well.
> It seems that your setup is very similar to mine, and I'm not seeing the 
> kind of performance problems you're reporting.  Full backup using rsyncd 
> over a slow wifi link of about 65gb is only taking about 100 minutes.  
> Incrementals are about 35 minutes.  Using SMB on a different machine 
> with about 30gb, it takes 300 minutes for a full, even over gigabit, but 
> only a couple of minutes for an incremental (because it doesn't detect 
> as many changes as rsync).  So it varies dramatically with the protocol 
> and hardware.
> 
> JH

I read your posts about wifi etc. on forum. The processor is not the 
problem however adding memory probably might help bufferwise. I think 
this idea can actually work.:) thanks! I am seeing swapping problems but 
the disk the swap is on is almost idle. The backup drive is working all 
the time.

I have to say that slow performance with BackupPC is a known problem. I 
have heard it from several other people who are using BackupPC and it is 
the #1 reason of changing to another backup program from what I hear.

Things must improve on this area.

Thanks,
Evren

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