I wasn't previously familiar with the --omit-dir-times option.  As you
discovered, the low-level parts of rsync_bpc don't 100% faithfully mimic
the native linux system calls.  In particular, the mkdir() in rsync_bpc
doesn't set the mtime, since rsync updates it later (assuming
--omit-dir-times is not specified).

It would be a one-line change to set the mtime to the current time in
bpc_mkdir() in bpc_sysCalls.c.  However, I don't think it makes sense to
"fix" it, since a backup shouldn't add metadata that changes each time you
backup some data that hasn't changed.

Craig

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:17 PM Michael Stowe <
michael.st...@member.mensa.org> wrote:

> On 2020-05-22 16:52, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> > Michael Stowe wrote at about 23:46:54 +0000 on Friday, May 22, 2020:
> >  > On 2020-05-22 16:19, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> >  > > Michael Stowe wrote at about 22:24:13 +0000 on Friday, May 22,
> > 2020:
> >  > >  > On 2020-05-22 09:15, backu...@kosowsky.org wrote:
> >  > >  > What it does is omit directories from the modification times
> > that it
> >  > >  > sets.  In other words, you're telling it not to set the times
> > on
> >  > >  > directories it copies.  The beginning of the epoch is pretty
> >  > > reasonable
> >  > >  > for directories which have no specific time set.
> >  > >  >
> >  > >
> >  > > Actually, at least the manpage is unclear.
> >  > > And *differs* from the default behavior of native rsync (at lesat
> > on
> >  > > Ubuntu) that sets the dir time to the current time -- which is
> > more
> >  > > reasonable than some arbitrary epoch = 0 time.
> >  > >
> >  > > That is what I would have expected and I believe should be the
> > default
> >  > > behavior...
> >  > >
> >  > >  > This option has no implications for which directories are
> > selected
> >  > > to be
> >  > >  > copied.
> >  >
> >  > Unset is unset, it's not the option to use if you want the directory
> >  > modification time set.
> >
> > Regardless, behavior should be consistent with normal rsync...
> >
> > If you can show me a standard *nix version of rsync that uses Epoch as
> > the default then I would retract my point... but otherwise Epoch is
> > totally arbitrary and illogical... while at least the current time has
> > a good rationale... Choosing 1/1/1970 not so much...
>
> It's not that "epoch is the default" it's that that's what a timestamp
> of 0 is.  When you tell rsync not to set the timestamps, it doesn't.
>
> If you want to touch the directories and update their timestamps to the
> current time, you can do that, but it's an odd thing to expect rsync to
> take care of for you when you explicitly tell it not to.
>
>
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