Ah, but Christian, you have hit the perfect paradox of Open Source Software!  
When you find a problem, you have the opportunity to lend a hand in fixing it.  
Yep, it’s annoying, but hopefully rare.  This is one of the benefits of Linux, 
that you have the opportunity and tools available to fix things yourself.

Yes, you are correct that wrong information should and must be corrected.  
However, because there’s not a monetary exchange, sometimes there is a time 
exchange.  When you begin to understand, prepare for, and embrace this dynamic, 
then these frustrations are not nearly as foreign or jarring.  Sometimes the 
frustration will never go away.  However, demanding that somebody else do 
something so that you can have something for free is not going to put those in 
charge in a great mood to help you.

I get it, and have been there.  I’m still there many times.  However, changing 
the tone to more of a helper stance can go a long way.

Thanks,

Greg Harris

On Mar 1, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Christian Möller 
<dcmoel...@gmx.de<mailto:dcmoel...@gmx.de>> wrote:

Thanks Johan for your reply and time.


Hello, BackupPC community,

sorry, to me this sounds like the following:

There is BackupPC software with documentation how to install it from
scratch ... but this documentation is wrong or at least misleading!

One of the benefits of using Linux-based machines is the ease to
install/upgrade software. I don't know who is responsible for
preparation of BackupPC's Debian package, but in essense it seems to be
useless (at least for initial installation)!

So please
- wipe out this chapter from documentation,
- fix DEB package.

Fiddling around with scripts is not acceptable to me! I want to apply
BackupPC for backing up my computers, not to train my ability typing
commands.

Christian

Am 23.02.22 um 14:50 schrieb Johan Ehnberg:
Hello Christian,

If you prefer not to install manually, the BackupPC Wiki has an
installer script that works on Debian-based distributions:

https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Installing-BackupPC-4-from-tarball-or-git-on-Ubuntu

The script source can also be of use for you to identify where you got
stuck when installing manually.

Another option is to build your own packages or download premade ones:

https://github.com/backuppc/backuppc/wiki/Build-Your-Own-Packages

Best regards,

Johan Ehnberg


On 23/02/2022 13.39, Christian Möller wrote:
Hello,

I've tried to install BackupPC v4 following your documentation at

https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/BackupPC.html

on a Debian 11 machine.

Starting with "Step 1"

https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/BackupPC.html#Step-1:-Getting-BackupPC


everything works fine, both packages "backuppc" and "rsync-bpc" get
installed smoothly (as far as I can tell).
So according to the recommendation, I skip to Step 3 ... which gets me
lost in transition, because:

https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc/BackupPC.html#Step-3:-Setting-up-config.pl


states

    "After running configure.pl, browse through the config file,
__CONFDIR__/config.pl [...]"

Well, which "configure.pl" to ran (and when)? What is "__CONFDIR__"? The
same as with v3, so "/etc/backuppc"? I recognized that this folder is
created freshly during installation (be aware of the file's timestamps),
but contains NO "config.pl" file:

  $ ls -al /etc/backuppc
  total 20
  drwxr-xr-x   2 backuppc www-data  4096 Feb 23 11:42 .
  drwxr-xr-x 130 root     root     12288 Feb 23 11:57 ..
  -rw-r-----   1 backuppc www-data    47 Feb 23 11:42 htpasswd
  lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root        13 Feb 23 11:42 pc -> /etc/backuppc

So my attempt stops at this point unfinished.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

Christian


PS: A little bit of background info: I'm using BackupPC v3 for many
years now. Prior to my attempt to install v4, I've uninstalled v3 and
moved away the "old" folder /etc/backuppc by renaming it.


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