On Friday 24 July 2009 14:40:35 Dirk Bartley wrote:
> Greetings
>
> My $0.02.
>
> Some of the recent issues is that I just purchased a new computer :-)
> and am using ubuntu for the first time.
>
> My experience to date is that the version of qt that development occurs
> on is "most likely" not the issue.  The issue is designer.  If designer
> had a mode of "save as version", life would be sooooo much simpler.  I
> could keep my up to date version and all the non bleeding edge distro
> users would be kept happy.
>
> There's very little difference between the qt versions in terms of code
> that I would use that could/should cause any issues.  It's just designer
> causing heartache so far.  I'll admit I neither read nor track qt
> changelogs.  If I did use some new feature in terms of code it would be
> quickly recognized and I could undo that change but I doubt that would
> happen.
>
> What I'm considering doing is compling an older version of qt on my
> system but not installing.  Then point designer that I use during
> development to the older version.   I'd like to try this and see if it
> solves alllllll of our portability issues between distributions.  I'm
> betting it will.

Yes, I think that is a good solution that will surely fix the majority of the 
problems, if not all.  In fact the problem I ran into building it here on 4.3 
was due to designer, and I simply edited the .ui file by hand and removed the 
problem code, but that isn't always so easy to do ...

The rest, I think we can deal with as you say on a case by case basis ...

Thanks.

Kern

>
> Dirk
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 13:56 +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We will take the issue of RHEL 5.3 into consideration.  Currently I am
> > 99% sure that 3.0.2 does build on RHEL 5.3 -- I haven't tried the current
> > SVN though where some of the more "modern" GUI features were added.
> >
> > It is always possible to link bat against the depkgs-qt code or any older
> > version of Qt, but it not so convenient now that bat defaults to shared
> > objects ...
> >
> > We will try to make some reasonable compromise between adding new GUI
> > features and the ease of building.
> >
> > Kern
> >
> > On Friday 24 July 2009 13:27:15 Alex Ehrlich wrote:
> > >  > there always is a distro that uses old QT libs...
> > >
> > > Yes, but not always this "old" distro is the latest version of the
> > > major server one ;-).
> > >
> > > But anyway, I know too little about Qt to comment on the topic whether
> > > there are new features in 4.3+ over 4.2 that are *really* needed for
> > > bat (or improving bat *significantly*). Being mostly a Windows guy
> > > actually, I just know that my last database applications (i.e.
> > > "business" like bat is, not "fancy DirectX10+" neither "advanced
> > > security") were built in 2008 to work on Windows 95 (among other
> > > versions of Windows -- up to Vista)...
> > >
> > > However, I admit that building bat statically is an option
> > > (specifically for Redhat it would probably mean just a "huge" rpm built
> > > by packagers, i386+x86_64).
> > > The problem here is that server distributions do provide updates (e.g.
> > > security) to system libraries sometimes, including Qt, but maybe for
> > > "statically built applications considered trusted" like bat it is not a
> > > critical issue.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
> > > > * Alex Ehrlich schrieb am 24.07.09 um 11:00 Uhr:
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >>
> > > >> Maybe you find possible to keep bat working with Qt v 4.2? I really
> > > >> hope that bat does not use 4.3+ features extensively, and at least
> > > >> one widespread server distro (RedHat/CentOS latest v 5.3) uses 4.2
> > > >> (4.2.1 currently).
> > > >
> > > > If you distro is too old then you could build qt statically into
> > > > bat.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise you could never use new QT features because there always
> > > > is a distro that uses old QT libs...
> > > >
> > > > -Marc
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