Hi Arno,

now i have very actual real data and i do not understand whats going wrong.

i just checked the backup and the following messages :

14-Apr 01:18 fileserver-dir: Pruned 6 Jobs on Volume 
"Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06" from catalog.
14-Apr 01:18 fileserver-sd: ntserver.2007-04-14_01.05.00 Warning: 
Director wanted Volume "Donnerstag_303_ab_30.1.06" for device "SDLT" 
(/dev/nst0).
     Current Volume "Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06" not acceptable because:
     1998 Volume "Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06" status is Used, but should be 
Append, Purged or Recycle (cannot automatically recycle current volume, 
as it still contains unpruned data or the Volume Retention time has not 
expired.).
14-Apr 01:18 fileserver-sd: Please mount Volume 
"Donnerstag_303_ab_30.1.06" on Storage Device "SDLT" (/dev/nst0) for Job 
ntserver.2007-04-14_01.05.00
14-Apr 02:18 fileserver-sd: Please mount Volume 
"Donnerstag_303_ab_30.1.06" on Storage Device "SDLT" (/dev/nst0) for Job 
ntserver.2007-04-14_01.05.00
14-Apr 04:18 fileserver-sd: Please mount Volume 
"Donnerstag_303_ab_30.1.06" on Storage Device "SDLT" (/dev/nst0) for Job 
ntserver.2007-04-14_01.05.00


ok bacula can not prune the volume but why ? ....
complete last week it works fine, but now bacula can't purge again.

i have the llist command output for the Freitag Volume:


           MediaId: 20
        VolumeName: Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06
              Slot: 0
            PoolId: 1
         MediaType: SDLT
      FirstWritten: 2007-03-23 09:44:52
       LastWritten: 2007-03-24 04:04:30
         LabelDate: 2007-03-23 09:44:52
           VolJobs: 6
          VolFiles: 145
         VolBlocks: 2,206,529
         VolMounts: 82
          VolBytes: 142,347,429,166
         VolErrors: 0
         VolWrites: 28,399,307
  VolCapacityBytes: 0
         VolStatus: Used
           Recycle: 1
      VolRetention: 432,000
    VolUseDuration: 82,800
        MaxVolJobs: 0
       MaxVolFiles: 0
       MaxVolBytes: 0
         InChanger: 1
           EndFile: 144
          EndBlock: 14,861
          VolParts: 0
         LabelType: 0
         StorageId: 2

And the List Volumes output:

|      20 | Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06    | Used      | 142,347,429,166 | 
    145 |      432,000 |       1 |    0 |         1 | SDLT      | 
2007-03-24 04:04:30 |

There are now messages between ... then i enter the command "mount" and 
the following output :


14-Apr 07:52 fileserver.issler.de-dir: Recycled current volume 
"Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06"
14-Apr 07:52 fileserver.issler.de-sd: Recycled volume 
"Freitag_103_ab_30.1.06" on device "SDLT" (/dev/nst0), all previous data 
lost.


why now????? i can not understand this.
so after i mount the volume manually, he recycled the volume and the 
jobs start to run. but why not automatic???

any hints?

thanks

manuel


Arno Lehmann schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> On 4/3/2007 3:14 PM, Manuel Stächele wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> something goes wrong so i give you first the pool definitions, that you 
>> can look in my confs. to understand what im talking about.
>>
>> Pool {
>>    Name = Woche
>>    Pool Type = Backup
>>    Recycle = yes
>>    AutoPrune = yes
>>    Volume Retention = 5 days
>>    Volume Use Duration = 23 hours
>>    Accept Any Volume = yes
>>    Recycle Current Volume = yes
>> }
>>
>> we have a daily cycle which backup every job full every day ;-)
>> we have the following volumes:
>>
>> mon1, tue1, wed1, thu1, fri1
>> mon2, tue2, wed2, thu2, fri2
>> mon3, tue3, wed3, thu3, fri3
>>
>> it works fine: after volume use duration the volume status changed to 
>> "used" no problem!
>>
>> so the problem if bacula want to reuse a volume it looks an tries to 
>> prune the volume in the drive. but in the last days it says ever:
>>
>> could not prune all data, cound not recycle because still jobs on the 
>> volume.
>>
>> - it worked for about 3-4 weeks perfekt now its broken, an i do not know 
>> why.
>> - if i say "mount" in bconsole after bacula send me the error "cound not 
>> prune..." than it work often, it prune outstanding jobs and recycle the 
>> volume.
>>
>> can you say me whats wrong?
> 
> The jobs might 'overtake' your retention periods.
> 
> Use the llist command to find out when the volume requested was last 
> written to, add the retention time, and then you see when the tape can 
> be recycled.
> 
> I guess that the job requiring this tape is scheduled to a time before that.
> 
> This can happen when your jobs wait a liitle for the tape each day, and 
> this time will add up because the retention time only starts after the - 
> now postponed - jobs finish.
> 
> After some time, the retention delay might become greater than the spare 
> time you have set up.
> 
> In the end, Bacula can't prune jobs because they are still in the 
> retention period when the jobs start.
> 
> 
>> i know my engish is pretty poor i am sorry and pleas ask me if you dont 
>> understand my problem.
> 
> Oh, I hope I understood your problem right. A more detailed explanation 
> might be possible with some real data. Post the actual messages you get, 
> along with the llist output for the volume requested, and also add the 
> query results for this tapes jobs to it. I suppose you'll see the reason 
> yourself :-)
> 
>> greetings manuel
> 
> Arno
> 
>>
> 

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