Kern> As you probably know, Bacula is released with a modified GNU GPL
Kern> licence.  The Bacula license modifies the GPL to permit Bacula
Kern> to link to OpenSSL. This was necessary because using MySQL
Kern> libraries requires OpenSSL.  This modification was suggested by
Kern> Debian to bring Bacula in compliance with their procedures.

Sounds good so far.

Kern> The problem comes from including pure GNU GPL code, which is not
Kern> compatible with the OpenSSL license, inside Bacula itself (there
Kern> are something like 8 such files).  This works in the same way
Kern> that Debian would not allow Bacula as pure GNU GPL to link with
Kern> OpenSSL.  If Bacula uses any pure GNU GPL code then that code
Kern> cannot be subject to the GNU GPL modifications, and that code
Kern> technically cannot linked and distributed with Bacula because of
Kern> OpenSSL.

So which 8 files are these and can they be re-written?  Maybe I'm
misunderstanding what you mean by "Pure GPL" code?  Are these files
from software released by the GNU organization?  

Kern> I suspect that a lot of GPL projects are in a similar situation,
Kern> but they do not explicitly point out the exception as Bacula
Kern> does.  The real bummer here is that this issue was flagged by
Kern> someone involved in the Fedora packaging process.  From what I
Kern> understand (I may be wrong here), Fedora and hence Red Hat will
Kern> not use Bacula because it uses some pure GPL code and OpenSSL
Kern> together raising potential license problems -- after the
Kern> problems with SCO and threats from Microsoft, their license
Kern> concerns are quite understandable.

Sure, I can understand this.  

Kern> This is not a show-stopping issue because at least for the
Kern> moment, no author of pure GNU GPL code is lodging a complaint.
Kern> In addition as I mentioned in a previous email, this issue could
Kern> potentially be resolved by GPL v3 (due at the end of the month,
Kern> if I remember right) because it is compatible with the Apache
Kern> license, which is apparently what OpenSSL uses.

Yup, Openssl uses the Apache license.  

Kern> In the mean time, until this problem is resolved, I've freezed
Kern> all inclusion of new GPL code (copyrighted by others) in Bacula.

So basically, you're saying that people who contribute code to bacula
under the GPL license (which is what they need to do to get it
distributed) can't contribute anymore?  

Kern> The really complicated aspect of the above is that if you build
Kern> a program such as Bacula using all your own code, and you use
Kern> OpenSSL then in linking it, you just happen to drag some GPL'ed
Kern> code from some library directly into your binary (most
Kern> libararies are shared objects so do not become part of your
Kern> binary), as is the case with the statically linked Bacula used
Kern> in the rescue package, you are in violation of the GPL if you
Kern> distribute such a binary.

Ah... now I see, it's the static linking part which causes the
problems. 

Kern> It seems that the only solution is that if you use GPL code, you
Kern> must use *all* GPL compatible code (not so easy), and if you
Kern> don't use it, you shouldn't even use the system libraries if
Kern> there is any chance they could be accidentally linked into your
Kern> program.

It's an interesting point for sure.  In this case, it all hinges on
the OpenSSL people and their use of the Apache license.  Which I would
assume would actually be a bigger issue since Apache uses that license
and I'm SURE that there are alot more Apache setups out there than
Bacula.  

So how does Debian/Fedora work around Apache using the MySQL libraries
with the openssl stuff?  Or do they just punt because Apache (as they
distribute it) only does dynamic linking? 

Honestly, I think you're over-reacting here to closing down
submissions from people.  Just make sure they understand that they
must make all submissions be part of the license that Bacula itself is
under, which is the modified GPLv2 license.  

I assume, since I haven't checked, that you are licensed like the
Linux Kernel to specifically use "GPLv2 only"  and not the "GPLv2 or
later" clause that most GNU programs have?

Thanks,
John

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