On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:18:24 -0600, Mark A. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Gilberto: 
> >>I  think one should be sensitive to the customs of the people around you. 
> >>That's just adab. If belching in public and slurping your soup loudly is 
> >>acceptable in a certain environment, go for it. If it isn't, you should 
> >>refrain. But this isn't a moral issue.<<

Mark: 
> But it *is* a moral issue (a folkway), as morality is generally defined in 
> sociology. That is why I am making a distinction between morality (values and 
> norms) and virtues (spiritual qualities taught by particular Prophets).

Gilberto:
Ok, then part of the difficulty is that we are using words
differently. Whether or not one belches in public is not a moral
question. I would definitely want to distinguish between morality
(which could presumably be derrived from some basic moral/ethical
principles) and mere politeness or ettiquette.

Gilberto:
> >>I don't think I have a aone-size-fits-all approach to behavior. I think 
> >>there are different levels. I definitely agree that there is an aspect of 
> >>human behavior and codes of acceptibility which fluctuates from time to 
> >>time. But I would think that there is some core which has to do with basic 
> >>moral principles and which has a divine origin.<<

Mark:
> If there is such a core, I would leave it up to God. I assume that God can 
> change any possible "core" as He wills. From my perspective, I just look to 
> what Baha'u'llah reveals.

Gilberto:
I would think that this core has some kind of logic to it. It's not
just inscrutable and mysterious without rhyme or reason.

Gilberto:
> >>So for example, the ultimate principle could be something like concern for 
> >>the sanctity of human life and safety.<<

Mark:
> Concern for the sanctity of life is just a name or signifier.


Gilberto:
But don't you think everything is just a name?

Peace

Gilberto

"My people are hydroponic"

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