On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:36:46 -0600, Mark A. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gilberto, > At 06:16 AM 1/27/2005, you wrote: > >>Ok, then part of the difficulty is that we are using words differently.<< > Yes. > >>Whether or not one belches in public is not a moral question.<< > As I said, I would call etiquette and all low-level social norms "folkways." > Norms and values, as I define them, are categories of morality.
Gliberto: But what makes one set of laws "high-level" and another "low-level"? I'm not sure how you are drawing the line. I have the impression that in your perspective there is not a clear fundamental difference between ettiquette and morality because it is all relative. Gilberto: > >>I would definitely want to distinguish between morality (which could > >>presumably be derrived from some basic moral/ethical principles) and mere > >>politeness or ettiquette.<< > >>I would think that this core [of moral values] has some kind of logic to > >>it. It's not just inscrutable and mysterious without rhyme or reason.<< Mark: > IMO, logic cannot be a foundationism. What is logical in the context of one > paradigm may be illogical in the context of another. Gilberto: I'm speaking imprecisely. I don't think I mean that kind of logic. I mean a different kind of reasoning process. Gilberto: Think about it this way. Even across various religions, different groups of human beings tend to converge on similar sets of moral rules. Golden rule. Lying is bad. Murdering is bad. Stealing is bad. etc. To me that suggests that in spite of the differences, there is some kind of objective notion of good. And even without the aid of a prophet, human beings are able to make certain moral judgements. Yes, there are differences, but there are also recurring similarities. Peace Gilberto "My people are hydroponic" __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
