Hi, Gilberto, At 09:35 PM 5/7/2005, you wrote: >>1. It was my impression (at least this is what I've read, and I've never read >>anything different) that the historical Mutazilite school basically survived >>within 12-er Shiism. So I'm not sure what it would mean to revive it.<<
I believe that there are vestiges of it in the isna ashariyyah movement, but I am sure that others would be more qualified to comment. >>2. The Mutazites weren't necessarily more liberal or open-minded in the ways >>which come to mind when we think of the term "rationalism". For example, the >>most frequently mentioned Inquisition-like period in Islam is when the >>Mutazilites were in charge and tortured people like Ahmad ibn Hanbal (the >>founder of the Hanbali school) in order to get him to confess that the Quran >>wasn't the eternal word of God but instead was created.<< Yes, the eternal-created issue was a biggie for these folks. However, I never suggested that they were more open-minded. In most religions (systems of beliefs and praxes, focused on the sacred, which unite people into a moral community), leaders are rarely tolerant once they hold the reins of power. >>For example, the "reformers" are often the ones who becoming repressive and >>oppose the more tolerant principles of the traditionalists.<< In the Buddhisms, that is seen in the Nichiren movement. Via moderna, Mark A. Foster � Portal: http://markfoster.net "... since [a] word is said to be common, it can be called a universal" - William of Ockham, Summa Logicae, Part I __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
