Benjamin,
Agreed.
Ron
On 10/29/07, Benjamin La Framboise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> On 10/29/07, Ursus Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm well aware of the math, (I have degrees in Math and Physics and a
> > masters in Operations Research (essentially applied mathematics) and I
> > have read many times the "explanation" of how we all share all
> > ancestors , but it just ain't true.
> >
> > Typically, we all share many, maybe most ancestors. But each of us
> > also has a lot of ancestors who are our ancestor thousands of times
> > over, due to local breeding populations etc. Not everyone is descended
> > from David, or any other individual.
>
> Hey, Ron...
>
> I've never heard anyone (whether geneticist or lay-scientist) claim that 'we
> share all ancestors.' Only my siblings share the exact same ancestry as I
> do, and that's true of any human being (they only share the exact same
> ancestry as their siblings (so long as they have the same mother and
> father).
>
> I also have never heard anyone claim that we all descend from David. I
> think to find a single common ancestor which we all share, we'd have to go
> back toward the beginning of the human race. Most of the time, though, when
> people are claiming that we are all related to one another, they are not
> making that kind of claim. I think what science and 'the numbers' would
> more easily demonstrate is that you and I have an ancestor in common,
> probably closer than we realize. Also, it would demonstrate that you and
> Susan have an ancestor in common, though likely a different one than you'd
> be able to trace along with me. Then again, Susan and I would be able to
> look back at our ancestries and find overlap. But that is something else
> different from the claim that we share all ancestors or that we are all
> descended from David or some other identifiable individual personage in
> history (except Lucy, perhaps?).
>
> Ben
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