ian , my sincere thanks for the cogency of ur response.... specificallllly, specifically and praise God thankfully for this point of definitional issues.
i would offer that i, and perhaps others who seem to be making a kind of sense to me, are not only touching this, but, in my case, refusing to leave until we have some. thus, whilst i might appear here to be a ravening wolf...it's because, yeah. i'm a ravening wolf. thus, ;"The meaning of 'compatible' is very simple and straight forward: compatible is not contradictory to the substance or intent of a statement either directly or by logical consequence." is u demanding i agree to what some suits said, and i say, no, thank u, but no. compatible means" don;t screw each other over." http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3A+compatible&btnG=Google+Search now..i can see u abstracting out something like "intent" out of what i would call "behaviour" which i find consistent with the Master's repeated comments about mineral life, etc. i can get sense testing (while recallling that no, sense reporting is not perception--see william james--but the organising on the fly of sense signalling, and thus removed, since the organisational system pre-exists the sensation. :"but nonetheless an effort must be made to narrow the focal point of discussion. only if we already >>intend<< to build common ground. without such hearing of intent, and of motive, ur statement is a terorism. normally, at bnut, where i try to concretely engage these issues, i would put this: ok, there's a field, and an agreement to report what we see. we see a round thing, maybe a ball, maybe a rock; we see a stick. we begin to share an interplay of our images of them. we may see something, that could become baseball, or cricket...but we >>>do not know<<< unless we share. hey, a ball..a stick... not a rock, a stick..becuase what we will build will become different. :"Philosophical distinctions are especially useful because they often bring to light distinctions easily lost e.g. unity/extrinsic unity/intrinsic unity. " or they are compleatly and utterly useless for the same reason. one may ocean for "cow" and "philiospher" near an awwesome pilgrim;s note, "see, I told you americans liked jokes." :"Why wouldn't they be social laws? Any laws passed by human beings are, in my mind, social laws. They may contradict nature - but human law does not always take guidance from nature. All man-made systems decay and require renewal. " that causes me to have a perception we may be seeing something similar--or seeing different things in a similar way. yeah... allll systems decay. System includes decay within renewal..the Two Angels guarding heaven. my dim recall says the Master comments on this, as does actually, poe's eureka, and my own fave for now...blake's awakening to the Coming Breeze. specificallly,. in this discussion the infalllible UHJ authrosiing the use of the term "necessity" in the original cite from century of light. :"Any laws passed by human beings are, in my mind, social laws." in my mind, as someone who has been a peace officer, and lecturer of police ethics, and other even stranger things, laws passed by cultures are reflections of perceived Form. social laws would, de facto, require pre-existent socialising..which contains within it signals form the brain stem, etc..which are not "human" but rather animal. ...see everyone from james to piaget to the sainted fred rogers. in the example being looked at, a dictator might demand that anyone not levitating whilst listening to his speeches be shot. he will cease havung anyone to dictate to shortly thereafter, thru one mechanism or another. because the world view, the system, the whatever is corrupt, self-undermining. :"but human law does not always take guidance from nature." i would strenuously disagree and offer instead that human law alllwaysss takes guidance from >>>perceived <<< nature. when perceptions agree..a word that means 'pleasede by" thus putting that brain stem right back in the loop, there is now pleased by/ not pleased by ; us/other; separator. wall. sharing walls? community. preserve community? pretend that the agreement is a response to nature and not self; eventually, Nature, not self. so that we can have the infalllible Guardian saying "3 false gods" and i can be pretty sure that my view of the field, the ball the stick, the ability to burn rock and get chalk dust and mark out boundries, and play stickball is similar to what the Guardian saw. then, i can >>>>>move<<<<within that now demarked, and thus limited field...at which point i find out, by testing, reflecting, etc....not by being told by anyone except my own eyes, and not the eyes of others. now i have "equity" . and no equity until i have that---moving. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify JCCC by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
