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Nor, for that matter, was `Abdu'l-Baha.

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From: "Dean Betts" <[email protected]>
To: "Baha'i Studies" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: Unity of nations


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> Perhaps all this demonstrates that neither the Guardian nor the Universal
> House of Justice are (nor have they claimed to be) prophets.
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> > On 26 Jan 2009 at 6:05, David Friedman wrote:
> >
> > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv
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> > > "This is the stage which the world is now approaching, the stage of
> > > world unity, which, as Abdu'l-Baha assures us, will, in this century,
> > > be securely established." (PDC)
> >
> > I've discussed this on my blog at
> >
> > http://senmcglinn.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/century-of-light/
> >
> > Basically, the phrase "this century" which appears so self-evident is
> > not so simple: the underlying Persian terms do not necessarily mean
> > "100 years" let alone 100 years in the Gregorian counting, and Shoghi
> > Effendi's practice when translating the two Persian words (qarn and
> > `asr) is to use a range of English terms: dispensation, age,
> > generation, cycle, century, days, time.... So Shoghi Effendi
> > obviously does not think that these terms mean "100 years."
> >
> > Even where he does translate qarn as century, he sometimes shows by
> > context that he does not mean 100 years but rather the Bahai era:
> >
> > ..this wondrous revelation [duur], this glorious century [qarn] (The
> > Promised Day is Come, p. 119)
> >
> > ..ere the close of this century [qarn] and of this age [`asr] (The
> > World Order of Baha'u'llah, p. 205)
> >
> > > How would one explain to a non-Baha'i that we already have world
> > > unity, that the nations are already united?
> >
> > We don't. We - the world - don't have world unity or unity of
> > nations, and we (the Bahais) don't try to claim that we do when we
> > obviously don't.
> >
> > > How would one also argue that the unity of nations is securely
> > > established, particularly with the invasion of Iraq this century?
> >
> > We can't: the unity of nations is mentioned in the 7 candles of
> > unity. It is translated by Shoghi Effendi in the World Order of
> > Baha'u'llah :
> >
> >     "The fifth candle is the unity of nations [wahdat-e watan]  - a
> >     unity which in this century [qarn] will be securely established,
> >     causing all the peoples of the world to regard themselves as
citizens
> >     of one common fatherland."
> >
> > There's a previous translation by Shoghi Effendi in the Bahai World
> > vol 2 pp 50-51 :
> >
> >     The fifth candle is national unity [wahdat-e watan] which in this
> >     century will be securely established, causing all the peoples and
> >     nations of the world to regard themselves as citizens of one common
> >     fatherland.
> >
> > Wahdat is unity, watan means homeland: the idea is that there should
> > only be one watan/homeland, which is the globe itself. The earth will
> > be one country and mankind its citizens. We are not even close to
> > that, not by centuries (old-style 100-year centuries).
> >
> > Even after the institutions and treaties required for the Lesser
> > Peace are in place (which is still far away), many years and false
> > starts will go by before all of the people of the world actually
> > enjoy peace and security. I will not see it, I am afraid my children
> > will also not see it. And then after that, it will take a generation
> > or three before there is "unity of nations" in the sense that the
> > world is "one homeland" .
> >
> > For comparison: Europe has had its lesser peace for 50 years, it is
> > only 10 years or so ago that we all got the right to travel and live
> > and work in every other country, and only now - because of that - is
> > Europe actually becoming "one homeland." It is not yet one nation (it
> > has no foreign policy for example), but there is a small but growing
> > sense among the people that "Europe" is our homeland. I would say we
> > have come 10% of the way to wahdat-e watan in Europe, and two or
> > three more generations should complete the process (at the centre:
> > Scandanavia will take longer, and I really wonder about the Brits).
> >
> > I think we need to rethink the tasks facing this generation of Bahais
> > and the next in this perspective. Our primary tasks have to be
> > building local Bahai communities and making them open to society (in
> > old-fashioned terminology, consolidiation and teaching). The top-down
> > model of the Lesser Peace arriving soon envisioned that the
> > governments were about to form the lesser peace and would
> > simultaneously recognise the Bahai Faith at the international level :
> >
> >     During the last year, there was a sharp increase in the visits to
the
> >     World Centre of high-ranking government officials, other dignitaries
> >     and media representatives, demonstrating the growing significance of
> >     the spiritual and administrative centre of the Faith in the eyes of
> >     the world. This appeared to underscore a trend towards a greater
> >     familiarity of the governments of the nations with the evolving
> >     centre of a World Faith. Viewing this trend from the Mountain of
God,
> >     the site of the current construction projects, and considering it in
> >     conjunction with the developments taking place in local and national
> >     Bahá'í communities, we can appreciate more adequately the unfolding
> >     reality of the vision projected by Shoghi Effendi when he explained
> >     the implications of the raising up of buildings that will constitute
> >     the world administrative seat of the Faith of Bahá'u'lláh. "This
vast
> >     and irresistible process", he said, "will synchronize with two no
> >     less significant developments .. the establishment of the Lesser
> >     Peace and the evolution of Bahá'í national and local institutions".
> >     It is a vision which, given the state of the world, compels the
> >     completion of the Mount Carmel Projects as scheduled. (The Universal
> >     House of Justice, Ridvan 152, 1995)
> >
> > It's not going to happen that way. What is happening is the
> > development of an open, horizontal, organic, global society, in which
> > "government" and "the media" no longer have that huge central
> > role, in which information is shared and trade and relationships are
> > transacted person-to-person. It's the move from the centralised
> > national societies of the modern era to the universal mycelium of
> > post-modern society.
> >
> > The Bahai Faith will prosper in the new society, because it is
> > designed for it; for the Bahai community to prosper it too will have
> > to adjust to postmodernity, until it appears in the global social
> > mycelium as a naturally-belonging part of it, not as a foreign body.
> > It is not the familiarity of the governments of the nations that we
> > must seek, but familiarity below the grassroots
> >
> > Sen
>
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