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No thanks. I don't follow those scholars in terms of theology. I study
religions on my own, and come to my own conclusions what I think about them.


On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Iskandar Hai, M.D.
<iskandar....@gmail.com>wrote:

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> I think it would be a great idea if Gilberto or Matt ask Sistani or Fazel
> Lankarani about Baha'is specifically, if they consider us Baha'is as najas
> infidels apostates or kAAfir or mushrik.
>
> Dear Matt and Gilberto, will you both kindly do ask this question in
> separate letters from the Shiah Ayatollahs Lankarani, Khamenei, and Sistani
> and from other leading Sunni mufti scholars?
>
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> Best regards
>
> Iskandar
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> On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> You mean the same Imams whom Bahaullah called
>>>
>>> " the manifestations of the power of God, and the
>>> sources of His authority, and the repositories of His knowledge, and
>>> the daysprings of His commandments."?
>>>
>>
>> As I said, I don't know how authentic those ahadith are.
>>
>> I'm not saying that people aren't being mistreated. I'm primarily
>>> questioning how the mistreatment is being framed. You want to blame
>>> Islam or Muslims as Muslims.
>>>
>>
>> I believe the issue was najas, not Islam or Muslims.
>>
>> You are missing the point. I'm not saying that it is "just" Jews. If
>>> anything, it is "just" Persians (of a certain era). Maybe you should
>>> blame the Safavids and their legacy instead of Islam.
>>>
>>
>> I think the fact that the Safavids forcibly converted Iran to Shi'ism
>> was a problem, but the intolerance towards religious minorities was
>> introduced by the 'ulama brought in from Iraq, so it isn't just an
>> Iranian thing.
>>
>>>
>>> I think you are mischaracterizing what "the ulama" are saying. And
>>> they don't speak with one voice. Grand Ayatolla Sistani and Grand
>>> Ayatollah Fazel Lankarani both explicitly hold that Jews and
>>> Christians are ritually clean. And Sistani is basically the highest
>>> ranking 12-er cleric in Iraq.
>>>
>>
>> If they say Baha'is are not najas I'll be impressed.
>>
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