The Baha'i Studies Listserv No thanks. I don't follow those scholars in terms of theology. I study religions on my own, and come to my own conclusions what I think about them.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Iskandar Hai, M.D. <iskandar....@gmail.com>wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I think it would be a great idea if Gilberto or Matt ask Sistani or Fazel > Lankarani about Baha'is specifically, if they consider us Baha'is as najas > infidels apostates or kAAfir or mushrik. > > Dear Matt and Gilberto, will you both kindly do ask this question in > separate letters from the Shiah Ayatollahs Lankarani, Khamenei, and Sistani > and from other leading Sunni mufti scholars? > > > Best regards > > Iskandar > > > > > > Sent from my iPod > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:20 AM, Susan Maneck <sman...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> >>> You mean the same Imams whom Bahaullah called >>> >>> " the manifestations of the power of God, and the >>> sources of His authority, and the repositories of His knowledge, and >>> the daysprings of His commandments."? >>> >> >> As I said, I don't know how authentic those ahadith are. >> >> I'm not saying that people aren't being mistreated. I'm primarily >>> questioning how the mistreatment is being framed. You want to blame >>> Islam or Muslims as Muslims. >>> >> >> I believe the issue was najas, not Islam or Muslims. >> >> You are missing the point. I'm not saying that it is "just" Jews. If >>> anything, it is "just" Persians (of a certain era). Maybe you should >>> blame the Safavids and their legacy instead of Islam. >>> >> >> I think the fact that the Safavids forcibly converted Iran to Shi'ism >> was a problem, but the intolerance towards religious minorities was >> introduced by the 'ulama brought in from Iraq, so it isn't just an >> Iranian thing. >> >>> >>> I think you are mischaracterizing what "the ulama" are saying. And >>> they don't speak with one voice. Grand Ayatolla Sistani and Grand >>> Ayatollah Fazel Lankarani both explicitly hold that Jews and >>> Christians are ritually clean. And Sistani is basically the highest >>> ranking 12-er cleric in Iraq. >>> >> >> If they say Baha'is are not najas I'll be impressed. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:iskandar....@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: >> leave-510688-20805...@list.jccc.edu >> >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> ly...@list.jccc.edu >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:matthewhaa...@gmail.com > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-510702-9533...@list.jccc.edu > > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-510845-274...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu