The Baha'i Studies Listserv Another way to look at the issue would be to point to what the Quran says about itself
"and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly everything, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit." (16:89) and "We have not neglected anything in the Book," (6:38) So it is arguably more faithful to the text to say that the essence of various practices, even if only in seed form are actually in the Quran. But yes, details are often found in hadith or elsewhere. In terms of 5 vs. 3, both Sunnis and Shia pray fajr, zuhr, asr, maghrib and isha. Hanafis are generally strict and mostly insist that each prayer only should be offered in its time. Other Sunnis are more liberal and say that nder certain circumstances (for example, if you are traveling) there is permission to combine certain prayers (e.g. pray zuhr and then asr during the time period for one of them). Similarly one might pray maghrib and isha during the time of one of them.) Shias are much more liberal about this issue and seem to allow for combination with little or no excuse. So they may make 3 "prayer breaks" out of their day but they are still doing 5 distinct prayers. On 8/6/10, Matt Haase <[email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > I would also like to point out that not every Islamic practice comes > directly from the Qur'an. Some were enumerated or slightly modified by the > Prophet, and became part of the "Sunna." So the Qur'an may indeed only > mention three prayers throughout the day, but the Prophet may have made some > minor modifications for specific instances, that then became part of the > regular "Sunna." The Shi'a still pray three times a day instead of five, but > they perform the extra rakats for two of the Salats, which amount to the > same amount as if they prayed five times a day. > > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Gilberto Simpson <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> A fairly common interpretation is that salat al-wusta refers to asr. >> >> >> Also 73:20 is pretty clearly a reference to Tahajjud (night prayer) >> which arguably includes witr. Also, the verse which Sen brought up >> seems to include maghrib (as a prayer time), no? >> >> >> On 8/5/10, Stephen Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >> > The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> > The ones mentioned in Hadith: >> > Fajr >> > Dhuhr >> > Asr >> > Maghrib >> > Isha'a >> > Witr >> > Tahajjud >> > >> > The ones mentioned in Quran: >> > Fajr >> > Al-Wusta >> > Isha'a >> > >> > Note: Dhur, Asr, and Maghrib are mentioned but not in connection with >> > prayer. >> > >> > Question: If Al-Wusta is mentioned in the Quran, why don't Muslims pray >> it? >> > >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto: >> [email protected] >> > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: >> [email protected] >> > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> > [email protected] >> > Or subscribe: >> > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> > Mail - mailto:[email protected] >> > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> __________________________________________________ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: >> [email protected] >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to >> [email protected] >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:[email protected] >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[email protected] > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[email protected] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
