The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes, I agree. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Stephen Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > Your definition does technically leave room for Guardianists like Remeyites > and Jensenites. > > ________________________________ > From: Gilberto Simpson <[email protected]> > To: Baha'i Studies <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 4:36:57 PM > Subject: Re: Baha'i Review > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Tim Nolan <[email protected]> wrote: >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >>>how should a non-Bahai refer to the various >>>groups which all claim to be Bahais and follow the teachings of >>>Bahaullah? >> >> I'm noty interested in telling other people what words to use. > > But that's what you did when you said "Haifan Bahai" is a misnomer. > >> The best thing to do is look at the *evidence* and to ignore >> claims that have no foundation in fact. > > Right. The fact is there are real-live flesh and blood people who call > themselves Bahai, who believe that the Bab and Bahaullah are > Manifestations, who believe Abdul-Baha was the rightful successor to > Bahaullah and who believe Shoghi Effendi was the first Guardian of the > Bahai faith. I understand that from your perspective you may have a > narrow definition but from an outsider's perspective it seems weird to > call them non-Bahais. Just as from an outsider's perspective it is > weird to call Mormons non-Christians or to call the Ahmadiyya > non-Muslims. > > In general, an "insider" will tend to have a specifc (dogmatic) > definition of who is in or out of their particular religious group. > But very often the subtle details won't seem all that relevant to an > "outsider". Especially since courtesy and tolerance would probably > suggest letting people name themselves. (I'm not saying there aren't > exceptions, but that would be the general rule unless there was good > reason). > > -G > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-526567-1719008.2a3842ae5b2f7d34dd5fdfc724616...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-526680-68452.e157d5dc5efabb63696f251595c88...@list.jccc.edu > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
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