The Baha'i Studies Listserv It DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOU CALL THEM. Forget the world of names look inward. They are distortions of the true treachings of the real image of Bahai. You cannot pick and chose what teachings you will accept from the successorship and merge them into your beliefs. They can call themselves true Bahai, super Bahai, Bahai kings, Bahai Gods, Bahai solarsystem lords, Bahai masters of universe, Bahai titans, Bahai golden avatars, respectively you may swap around and have the Bahai after the title. (King Bahais, God Bahais, solarsystem lord Bahais, Master of universe Bahais, titan Bahais, Golden avatar Bahais) it is irrelevent what they call themselves in reality, only in the kingdom of names, only the outwardly. Every discerning eye can see them for what they truly are, distortions of the true Bahai teachings. You are easily distracted. regards.
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Stephen Gray <[email protected]> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > Your definition does technically leave room for Guardianists like > Remeyites and Jensenites. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gilberto Simpson <[email protected]> > > *To:* Baha'i Studies <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tue, September 14, 2010 4:36:57 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Baha'i Review > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Tim Nolan <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > >>how should a non-Bahai refer to the various > >>groups which all claim to be Bahais and follow the teachings of > >>Bahaullah? > > > > I'm noty interested in telling other people what words to use. > > But that's what you did when you said "Haifan Bahai" is a misnomer. > > > The best thing to do is look at the *evidence* and to ignore > > claims that have no foundation in fact. > > Right. The fact is there are real-live flesh and blood people who call > themselves Bahai, who believe that the Bab and Bahaullah are > Manifestations, who believe Abdul-Baha was the rightful successor to > Bahaullah and who believe Shoghi Effendi was the first Guardian of the > Bahai faith. I understand that from your perspective you may have a > narrow definition but from an outsider's perspective it seems weird to > call them non-Bahais. Just as from an outsider's perspective it is > weird to call Mormons non-Christians or to call the Ahmadiyya > non-Muslims. > > In general, an "insider" will tend to have a specifc (dogmatic) > definition of who is in or out of their particular religious group. > But very often the subtle details won't seem all that relevant to an > "outsider". Especially since courtesy and tolerance would probably > suggest letting people name themselves. (I'm not saying there aren't > exceptions, but that would be the general rule unless there was good > reason). > > -G > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto: > leave-526567-1719008.2a3842ae5b2f7d34dd5fdfc724616...@list.jccc.edu > > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to > [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] > > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to > mailto:leave-526680-2222932.41cdf54d4f0ecb51bfad2c42bd979...@list.jccc.edu > > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:[email protected] > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-526875-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
