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Dear Tim,

Judging by a long list of posts I have learned to avoid, I believe the 
deed is already done, and done thoroughly.

Yours,

Jeanine

On 11/20/2012 3:10 PM, Tim Nolan wrote:
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> Mr. Gray,
> You are badly mistaken.   The legitimate succession of   Baha'u'llah,
> Abdu'l Baha, Shoghi Effendi and the Universal House of Justice
> is not just a "party line"  as you jeeringly call it.  The documents
> on which the Covenant is founded are authentic beyond any reasonable
> doubt.    I don't know who is feeding you information, but whoever it is,
> is poisoning your mind. Be careful!
> Tim
>
> All good art is about something deeper than it admits.
> --Roger Ebert
> *From:* Stephen Kent Gray <[email protected]>
> *To:* Baha'i Studies <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:40 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Happy Day of the Empty Throne
>
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> All sects even the heterodox, or maybe especially, both do and don't 
> fit the definition of covenant breaker.
>
> The catch 22 being that the arguments both for and against any group 
> being steadfast or covenant breaker requires you to presuppose a group 
> to have either status before hand, thus begging the question. 
> Questions like Who succeeded the Bab? Who succeeded Bahaullah? Who 
> succeeded Abdul Baha? Who succeeded Shoghi Effendi? Is the Will and 
> Testament and authenticdocument? etc. are only party lines and not 
> really thought about unless denouncing other sects.
>
> Sorry, but many of may friends have in real life told me that I tend 
> to be a little bit of a grammar nazi. If you ask me for example Don't 
> you like apple pie, I'll respond No, I do like apple pie. it confuses 
> people so I explain the grammar of my response. Also, I do also have 
> logic nazi tendencies as well with pointing out the fallacies in 
> people's arguments and references all the time.
>
> Wishing someone a happy holiday should lead to a sectarian diatribe, 
> but only Susan the Warmest can do such a thing each and every time.
>
> I also hate pro drop language with a passion. I wish English was much 
> more anti pro drop of a language.
>
> Only dead people know the truth, or possible time travelers.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 20, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Susan Maneck <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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> > Only the Covenant breakers have ever referred to the office of the
> > Guardianship as a 'throne.'
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Stephen Kent Gray 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv
> >>
> >> Yeah, it's November 20!
> >>
> >> November 20: Day of the Empty Throne. The anniversary of the day, 
> in 1957,
> >> on which leaders of the Bahai religion voted to declare the office of
> >> Guardianship permanently vacant following the sudden death of 
> Shoghi Effendi
> >> without leaving a will.
> >>
> >> Heard about it via blogspot!
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>
> >
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