The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Stephen, PoMo contradicts the Writings on more than PoMo's logical self-contradictions - it contradicts the Writings on epistemology, logic, ontology and metaphysics, philosophy of man (it denies that there is such a thing as human nature), philosophy of law, science and a host ot other subjects.
PoMo does indeed contradict itself in the same way nihilism does - but the adherents don't care because they don't believe in logic anyway. Logic is just another way to dominat or 'colonize' others so the very idea of universal logic must be undermined and destroyed along with rationalism and the Enlightenment. It's easy to show how all people and all cultures follow standard or Aristotelian logic even if they deny it or have other systems of logic. Unfortunately, they don't care about that either. The reason that PoMo, a lot (but not all) of feminism and nihilism continue because even though intellectually they are almost bankrupt, they have become foundational to various left and left-liberal political causes. Politics doesn't hav to be rational or consistent because politics is about persuasion - not truth - and about power, not integrity. Best, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Kent Gray To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Feminism and a Blog War The Baha'i Studies ListservThat's a nice paper, but wouldn't just be easier to say PoMo contradicts itself the same way Nihilism does. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_nihilism PoMo is the same as nihilism in that saying PoMo is true, includes or leads to PoMo is false. PoMo is inconsistent internally and externally, such that people can't be a PoMoist while being anything else, while believe in known fact, or even while being a PoMoist. Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2013, at 20:05, Ian Kluge <[email protected]> wrote: The Baha'i Studies ListservIf you are intyerested in a detailed critique of postmodernism in regards to the Faith, see my "Postmodernism and the Baha'i Writings" in "Lights of Irfan", Vol. 9, 2008" or at http://www.bahaiphilosophystudies.com/articles/?p=24 Bst wishes, Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Kent Gray To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:28 PM Subject: Re: Feminism and a Blog War The Baha'i Studies ListservI should have added some more to the first email, but I will wait for question to answer them. Sent from my iPad On Jan 26, 2013, at 0:19, Stephen Kent Gray <[email protected]> wrote: The Baha'i Studies ListservNot the best subject title, but the least worst rather. http://arationalfaith.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/bahai-feminism-women-and-the-universal-house-of-justice/ That's the link to my correspondence with A Rational Faith blog. It's real complicated to summarize the topic, so I'll just have you read the blog and the comments. The comments deal with various topics. The issues of feminism, sexism, free will, individuality, theory versus practice, moral responsibility, etc. They and many more issues are brought up and dealt with. The author is a Bahai who subscribes to a combination of Marxism, post colonialism, and post modernism. He always phrases everything in terms of theory. He believes theories are intrinsic and unqualified goods. I'll share a criticism of Post Modernism. Pomo robs people of hope that society is eliminating its prejudices and progressing towards truth. It leaves people doomed to a world of perpetual blind prejudice, with well educated people able to point out other people's prejudices but not their own. Now for Marxism! Marxism says society is run by evil vampires, anyone who Marxists don't like, and that violent revolution is the inevitable, mandatory, solitary, etc. result. While I never said anything about metaphysics in the piece. He constructs a straw argument in I argued for radical un constrained free will as existed and atomism. He uses the negation of said argument to possibly go to the opposite extreme of determinism. I've already pointed out the flaw of PoMo. Actually, I've never had a developed metaphysics of free will, I heavily leans toward Oriental Compatibilism. I also refer to evolutionary psychologist Steven Pinker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-685291-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [email protected] Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[email protected] Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
