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This passage has always struck me as indicative of a very inclusive and even-handed policy concerning the souls of individuals from various belief systems and the judgments of their actions: Baha’u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u'llah, p. 171 "It is clear and evident that all men shall, after their physical death, estimate the worth of their deeds, and realize all that their hands have wrought. I swear by the Day Star that shineth above the horizon of Divine power! They that are the followers of the one true God shall, the moment they depart out of this life, experience such joy and gladness as would be impossible to describe, while they that live in error shall be seized with such fear and trembling, and shall be filled with such consternation, as nothing can exceed. Well is it with him that hath quaffed the choice and incorruptible wine of faith through the gracious favor and the manifold bounties of Him Who is the Lord of all Faiths…." Clearly a variety of virtues, probably including theological correctness, weigh in our favor when we judge ourselves or are judged in the Presence of the Being of Light; and a variety of vices weigh against us. We all "live in error" to some extent, and we all pray to God for "gracious favor and manifold bounties." e.g. virtues which outweigh vices: James 5:20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way willsave his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because lovecovers a multitude of sins. and vices which outweigh virtues: Arabic Hidden Words 26 and 27: O SON OF BEING! How couldst thou forget thine own faults and busythyself with the faults of others? Whoso doeth this is accursed of Me.O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thouart thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldstthou be, and to this I bear witness. O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thouart thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldstthou be, and to this I bear witness. So as far as the next life goes we are all stuck wit Paul's admonition: O SON OF BEING! How couldst thou forget thine own faults and busythyself with the faults of others? Whoso doeth this is accursed of Me.O SON OF MAN! Breathe not the sins of others so long as thouart thyself a sinner. Shouldst thou transgress this command, accursed wouldstthou be, and to this I bear witness. So as far as the next life goes we are all stuck wit Paul's admonition: Philippians2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not asin my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvationwith fear and trembling; -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> To: Baha'i Studies <bahai-st@list.jccc.edu> Sent: Sun, Feb 10, 2013 2:37 pm Subject: Re: First Person Grammar The Baha'i Studies Listserv Technically, it depends on the use of pronoun tense (1, 2, or 3). He makes lots of use of vague pronouns which leaves a window of interpretation. Baha'i bloggers use sense 3 a lot like I've noted earlier. In reference to Baha'u'llah, a blogger (I forget which one cause there are just so many), says that humanity should and must accept His laws, His faith, and His institutions. The blogger imposes divine duty on people, but never suggest it's the duty of Baha'is to force people to comply with this duty. Just that God may deal with non-Bahai's in the afterlife in a not so good way. It depends on what His means. Does His means God's, Manifestation's (Moses's, Jesus's, Muhammad's, Bab's, Baha'u'llah's, Zoroaster's, Krishna's, Buddha's), or just Baha'u'llah's? A pronoun is a word used instead of a noun as a time saving device. But, sometimes this can lead to ambiguity to what the pronouns is referring to. 1.God 2.Manifestation 3.Baha'ullah These above are the three sense I referred to earlier. 1 and 2 are splitting hairs basically. 3 is a subset of 2, but excludes the rest of 2 that is not 3. The topic is first person grammar, but can include third person grammar for indirect quotes rather than direct quotes. Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2013, at 15:04, Hasan Elías <hasanel...@yahoo.com> wrote: The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi, It is better to recognize God (through Bahá'u'lláh), but we should not force anybody. Where Bahá'u'lláh says that everybody "must" become bahá'í? Hasan >I have seen Baha'i blogs where a sense 3 usage of Baha'ullah's writings >combined with promoting >independent investigation of truth leads to imply >that every man, woman, and child in the world should and must >become Baha'i >because Baha'ullah says so. The status of Jews, Christians, Muslims, Bayanis, >Zoroastrians, Hindus, and >Buddhists depends on the sense you use as well. >This is despite Baha'is criticizing Christians doing the same thing with >the >Bible and converting the world to Christianity because Jesus/Bible says so. http://www.wilmetteinstitute.org/projects/affirmations.html __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-687653-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu