The Baha'i Studies Listserv That reminds me that while I'm fiscally responsible, I'm socially tolerant. I'm currently religious Humanist, Nichiren Buddhist, and Unitarian Universalist.
Also, yes. Don C, I have noticed the Left has been authoritarian and the Right libertarian. Sent from my iPad On Apr 17, 2013, at 16:01, Stephen Kent Gray <skg_z...@yahoo.com> wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > Interesting, I'm a member of the Libertarian Right myself. Classical > liberalism, Libertarianism, Minarchism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Laissez-faire, > etc. > > Sounds like the concept of Aeons in Thelema. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeon_(Thelema) > > Lots of religious groups have concepts of dispensationalism. > Examples > Hare Krishnas and the Age of Bhakti > Nichiren Buddhists and the Age of the Lotus Sutra > Discordians and the Age of Eris > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 15:25, Don Calkins <don59...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> on the contrary . . . . >> >> Like most Euro-Americans, you believe in some kind of authoritarianism in >> which those in control pass laws to make people behave according to your >> standards and then punish people who do not comply. i reject that as an >> efficient and effective means of administration. >> >> Further, I do believe in a form of separation of church and state such that >> Baha'i law will not be forced on non-Baha'is. >> >> What happens when Baha'is "run the world"? First off, I reject the >> terminology. I don't believe Baha'is will ever "be in charge" in the sense >> that governments are today. When the Baha'i Commonwealth with the House of >> Justice at its head comes into being, the entire idea of someone being in >> charge will be seen as anachronistic. >> >> How do I believe the Baha'i administration will "come to power"? By >> default. It will be recognized as the only effective administrative system >> that is actually functioning. You think this is impossible? Look at what >> has happened in parts of the world where the central government has >> collapsed and fundamentalist Islam has been embraced by the populace, if >> only temporarily. They were accepted because they provided stability and >> nobody else could. in a similar manner, parts of northern Italy were ruled >> by the Communist Party for the the same reason. You may not have liked >> their philosophy, but there were relatively corruption free. >> >> You and I Stephen have extremely different administrative philosophies. Not >> only am I a Baha'i, but I also have a libertarian left administrative >> philosophy. There are not very many other Baha'is in that category and even >> fewer who have given any tho't as to how that philosophy informs the >> functioning of the Baha'i Administration. >> >> According to Baha'u'llah, this is not merely a new Dispensation, but a new >> age, the Age of Maturity. As such, what we are going thru' is the greatest >> change to the functioning of human affairs since the mythic "Time of Adam", >> when the Culture Hero societies replaced the Mother Goddess societies. The >> Adamic Cycle can be seen as the equivalent of going thru' puberty. We are >> now embarking on our maturity and it is time for us to grow up and take >> responsibility for our own affairs instead of waiting for mommy and daddy >> (kings/gov'ts/administrators) to tell us what to do. Rather, the new >> purpose of administrators is to remind us, repeatedly and persistently if >> necessary, what the proper principles should guide us. Shoghi Effendi made >> reference to this idea many years ago when he told local Assemblies to quit >> making up rules to enforce on their members. >> >> Another point - most leftist activists in the United States are >> authoritarian, they seek power so they can make other people do things their >> way. Most leftist activists also define equality in terms of power; that >> is, a group of people are only equal to the extent they have members who >> exercise power. That is the reason some people make a big deal out of there >> not being any women on the House of Justice. It is seen as having for its >> purpose the exercise of power and if women are not allowed to participate, >> then they have less power and are, therefore, not quite equal. I reject >> that entire argument. >> >> You may think I have avoided the topic or changed it. i have not. What I >> have done is shown how your entire argument is irrelevant. >> >> Don C >> >>> Susan, have you read the earlier e-mail in this thread. Don C thinks >>> society should have a zero tolerance policy towards non-heterosexuality. No >>> marriage, no civil unions, no domestic partnership, no adoption, no >>> parental rights, etc. He was complaining society gives them too many rights >>> and blames it on secular liberalism. >> >> >> ----------- >> It doesn't matter whether the sun shines if you never go outside. >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-697632-27401.54f46e81b66496c9909bcdc2f7987...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
