C-:  Hehehe... Hey Ukhti!

Aqsa Jihad Fisabeelillah* wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Linda G. Richard 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
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>       Anwar al Awlaki On-Line <http://www.anwar-alawlaki.com/>
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>     A Question about the Method of Establishing Khilafa
>     <http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/AnwarAlAwlaki/%7E3/377671100/>
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>     Posted: 28 Aug 2008 08:00 PM CDT
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>     /*Question:*/
>
>     /Salam Alakum. What I understand from your lectures is that you
>     believe the/
>
>     /method to re-establish Khilafah is through Jihad. Can you respond
>     to this?/
>
>     /
>     "Another view that is being addressed to the Ummah is the concept
>     of fighting/
>
>     /the rulers and that through military struggle Islam will return
>     to the world/
>
>     /stage. Again this is based upon a particular Hadith. It has been
>     narrated from/
>
>     /many sources including Imam Muslim that the Prophet (saw) said,
>     .Do not/
>
>     /challenge the people of authority unless you see explicit Kufr of
>     which you have/
>
>     /clear proof from Allah(from Islam).. Ibn Kathir in his Tafseer
>     states that if/
>
>     /the Khaleefah reverts to the rule of disbelief, he would be
>     fought until he/
>
>     /returned to the implementation of Islam and the Shari'ah./
>
>     /
>     Ibn Hajr in his Fateh al-Bari also states that if he becomes a
>     Kafir, or/
>
>     /changes the Shari.ah he should be fought and removed. This view
>     is also/
>
>     /mentioned in Nayl al-Awtar and supported by Imam Shawkani. That
>     is, if the ruler/
>
>     /rules by other than the Shari'ah he is fought until he either
>     repents or is/
>
>     /removed. However that is the only situation that it applies to
>     i.e. the ruling/
>
>     /of a Khaleefah who resorts to the Kufr ruling and disobedience to
>     Allah. It does/
>
>     /not relate to the Khaleefah becoming tyrannical and also does not
>     relate to his/
>
>     /personality becoming corrupt. In which case obedience to him is
>     binding and the/
>
>     /Muslims should still pray behind him and fight Jihad behind him./
>
>     /
>     However, these Ahadith are not connected to the current situation.
>     They are all/
>
>     /connected to revolt and rising against the Khaleefah and are
>     titled under the/
>
>     /subject of .Khurooj min al Khaleefah. i.e. rising against the
>     authority of a/
>
>     /Khaleefah or an Imam./
>
>     /
>     The current situation is not that of the Khulafaa' who used to
>     rule by Islam/
>
>     /and then turned away from Islam. The current problem is also not
>     merely related/
>
>     /to removing a ruler by killing him. Rather, entire systems of
>     Kufr have been/
>
>     /implemented over Muslims for over 76 years, none of the rulers
>     have ever ruled/
>
>     /by the Shari.ah and none of them are Khulafaa' within a Khilafah.
>     The systems/
>
>     /that they are applying are either monarchies or Capitalistic with
>     some sort of/
>
>     /democratic framework. Hence, the reality isn.t that of removing a
>     bad Khaleefah/
>
>     /within an Islamic State. The reality is of uprooting an entire
>     Kufr system,/
>
>     /including it.s ruler, to again establish Dar ul-Islam. The
>     current rulers are/
>
>     /not comparable in any way to Khulafaa' who have introduced one
>     Kufr law into the/
>
>     /Khilafah. Hence these Ahadith, which have always been understood
>     in the context/
>
>     /of Dar ul-Islam i.e. where Islam is implemented and the Muslims
>     possess the/
>
>     /security, do not apply upon the current situation. The reality
>     which they/
>
>     /address is that of removing a Khaleefah who rules with Kufr
>     within the Islamic/
>
>     /State, not that of uprooting an entire Kufr system merely by
>     fighting and/
>
>     /killing the ruler of that system./
>
>     /
>     The only situation that is comparable from the evidences is the
>     establishment/
>
>     /of the Islamic State for the very first time by the Prophet(saw)
>     and the/
>
>     /struggle which he (saw) went through in order to establish this
>     State and change/
>
>     /Dar ul-Kufr to Dar ul-Islam. This is the struggle which he (saw)
>     referred to in/
>
>     /the Hadith of Hamza and as is illustrated in the Books of Sunnah
>     and Seerah. As/
>
>     /that is the only instance in which a complete system of Kufr
>     existed and was/
>
>     /changed to a complete system of Islam. So the matter is regarding
>     the changing/
>
>     /of a system, not merely a ruler. The Ahadith of fighting, apply
>     to changing a/
>
>     /ruler i.e. a Khaleefah who has gone astray not a system, only the
>     struggle of/
>
>     /the Prophet (saw) in Makkah applies to the changing of a system.
>     So military/
>
>     /struggle is not the method of re-establishing the Khilafah."/
>
>     /- Also, can you give me your views on Hizb ut-Tahrir. JazakAllah
>     Khair. Salam/
>
>     /Alakum./
>
>     *Answer*:
>
>     Most Islamic groups that were founded after the fall of the
>     khilafa recognize the importance of re-establishing al khilafa
>     again. There was a time during the decades of the eighties and
>     nineties when the Salafi's, Ikhwaan, Jamaat Islami, HT, Jihad
>     groups and even some of the sufi's talked about khilafah. Since
>     then and because of the fact that the West has made it clear that
>     it doesn't like that idea and would not tolerate it, some groups
>     have backed off completely from any talk of khilafah while others
>     toned it down. Only a few remained steadfast in their call to
>     establish the Islamic system again.
>
>     The proposed methods that Islamic groups presented for
>     re-establishing al Khilafah are:
>
>     1. Through tarbiyyah and then somehow when our condition changes
>     the khilafa will be re-established again. While others say we will
>     do tarbiyyah until the ummah is ready and then we will fight the
>     enemies of Allah.
>
>     2. By reaching to power through participating in the democratic
>     system.
>
>     3. The HT method of raising the awareness of the ummah of the
>     importance of khilafa, educating the Muslims on politics, and
>     searching for nusrah.
>
>     4. Fighting in path of Allah in order to establish the religion of
>     Allah.
>
>     The proponents of the first method have never given the ummah any
>     benchmark to when we have done sufficient tarbiyyah to move on to
>     the stage of implementation and therefore will remain in a
>     perpetual state of tarbiyyah while negating the duty of Jihad.
>
>     They also miss the point that tarbiyyah is within one generation
>     and not multigenerational. Meaning the change that Rasulullah
>     brought which started with dawa and ended with jihad was within
>     the lifetime of one generation. It all happened within 23 years.
>     Every other successful change in the ummah occurred within one
>     generation. History is a testimony to this.
>
>     The promoters of change by participation in democratic elections
>     started out by stating that democracy is kufr and we do not
>     believe in it but we are using it as a vehicle to reach to power
>     and after we reach to power we will implement Islam. This is what
>     I heard from every single leading member of Ikhwaan in the late
>     eighties and early nineties. I clearly remember the public
>     discussions that were held on this issue because the Salafi's back
>     then were very much against Ikhwaan on this point. I also remember
>     clearly the private discussion I had with some of the shuyukh of
>     ikhwaan who would reiterate the same point again and again:
>     Democracy is un-Islamic and we are participating in elections but
>     our intentions are to change the system from within.
>
>     There are three problems with this method:
>
>     First: It is a deception and a lie to use democracy and claim to
>     be adherents to the democratic system but not believe in it. Now
>     deception is acceptable against the enemy if the Muslims are in a
>     state of war with the them. The problem is that the particular
>     groups that are involved in the democratic process do not believe
>     that they are in a state of war with the disbelievers but believe
>     that there is a covenant between the Muslims and the disbelievers.
>     So if we are in a covenant with the disbelievers then it is not
>     allowed to use deception against them and it is not allowed to lie
>     to them. That's the first problem.
>
>     The next problem is that when you repeat a lie long enough you end
>     up believing it. For those who knew these groups from the eighties
>     it is strange for them to see how much they have changed over
>     time. Now they are saying and I have heard this more than once
>     from their prominent members that now we genuinely do believe in
>     the democratic system. We believe in the ballot not bullet. And if
>     the ballot decides that a secular or disbelieving party wins we
>     will accept that.
>
>     As Muslims we should not subject Islam to the whims of the people,
>     if they chose it we implement it, if they don't we accept the
>     choice of the masses. Our position is that we will implement the
>     rule of Allah on earth by the tip of the sword whether the masses
>     like it or not. We will not subject sharia rule to popularity
>     contests. Rasulullah says: I was sent with the sword until Allah
>     alone is worshiped. That path, the path of Rasulullah, is the path
>     we should follow.
>
>     The final problem is that the Muslims' method is not a method of
>     infiltration. Muslims do not try to infiltrate the system and work
>     from within. It is just not our way. It is the way of the Jews and
>     the munafiqeen but not the way of the Muslims. We are honest and
>     straightforward with friend and foe. We make our intentions open
>     and we declare our dawah publicly, "For you is your religion, and
>     for me is my religion." We do not want to infiltrate the system
>     whether in America or in a Muslim country. The Jews are the ones
>     who have infiltrated every government they lived under whether it
>     was al-Andalus and the Ottoman khilafah or the Western governments
>     of today. They have a hidden agenda, we don't. The Jews and their
>     brethren, the hypocrites, tried to infiltrate the government of
>     Rasulullah and were exposed by Quran:
>
>     "And a faction of the People of the Scripture say [to each other],
>     "Believe in that which was revealed to the believers at the
>     beginning of the day and reject it at its end that perhaps they
>     will return [i.e., abandon their religion]"
>
>     So they would become believers and come in to the community only
>     to leave it at the end of the day. Allah also talks about the
>     hypocrites who would sit among the believers and convey what they
>     hear to the Jews.
>
>     Therefore for those who say that we should be involved with the
>     system and change it from within are not following the path of the
>     Muslims and if their character is that of a Muslim they would fail
>     because infiltration just doesn't work with Muslim behavior. But
>     if they do succeed in infiltrating the system then that is proof
>     that their character has become that of the Jews or the hypocrites
>     and not that of the Muslims.
>
>     A point related to this is that those who come from Islamic
>     backgrounds and have spent a long time working within the
>     political systems of today end up becoming politicians, with all
>     the negative meanings of the word: deceptive, changing colors,
>     materialistic and Machiavellian in their methods. They may have
>     been bred in the Islamic movements' strong tarbiyyiah programs but
>     after a while in the political arena they become the wolves they
>     were trying to change. I have seen this with my own eyes happen to
>     people that I know and as one leader of the Islamic movement in
>     Yemen said: "We send them as sheep into a world of wolves only for
>     them to come back to us as an eaten up skeleton." If you want a
>     live example of what working from within the system produces look
>     no further than Sudan and Turkey. The ruling parties in both
>     countries started out as /Islamists/ only to end up just like
>     everyone else in their rotten and corrupt environments.
>
>     Regarding the method of HT which you specifically referred to in
>     your question, I first came in contact with HT members from Jordan
>     in the early nineties and found them to be argumentative but
>     well-mannered and polite. My first understanding of the Hizb was
>     from them and they were core members of the group. HT has played
>     an important role in raising the awareness of the ummah to the
>     matter of khilafa. They also played a role in countering the false
>     idea that politics and political awareness have nothing to do with
>     Islam. However the method of HT to re-establish khilfah is simply
>     not going to work. To wait for nusrah until it arrives is to wait
>     for a miracle. Tribes or military generals that are supposed to
>     give nusrah and establish the religion of Allah are not going to
>     be won over simply by discussions. They will only be won over when
>     they see a group of believers living by what they say and
>     sacrifice all that they own for the sake of Allah. This is what
>     will inspire others to join. The two success stories of powerful
>     people giving nusrah to the religion are some of the former
>     officers of the Iraqi baath regime who joined the insurgency and
>     the former president of Chechnya, Dudayev, who was a high ranking
>     officer in the Soviet army. Both these successful examples of
>     nusra were not won over through debates, demonstrations and
>     pamphlets but by them seeing a living example of men struggling in
>     the path of Allah.
>
>     This leads me to the forth method of re-establishing khilafa and
>     that is through Jihad fi sabilillah. The argument that you
>     presented against this is that the only similar situation to our
>     situation now is that of Rasulullah establishing an Islamic state
>     first and then fighting Jihad. You are neglecting a serious
>     difference and that is when Rasulullah established Madina there
>     was no Islamic land that was invaded. Isn't this a serious and
>     major difference? Today the Muslim world is under occupation and
>     the statements of our scholars are clear that it becomes fardh ayn
>     on every able Muslim to fight to free the Muslim land. When
>     something is fardh ayn it is fardh ayn. You cannot theorize or
>     hypothesize otherwise. The ruling is clear and the implications of
>     it are clear. So even if you do not believe Jihad to be the way to
>     establish khilafah you must agree that Jihad is fardh ayn and that
>     is not where HT stands. Also the jihad which is fardh ayn and is
>     Jihad al dafa (defensive Jihad) does not require the one who wants
>     to participate to seek the permission of the Imam, parents,
>     husband, slave owner, or lender.
>
>     Also why should we argue on this point when we see the evidence of
>     it in the real world. The two most successful examples, even
>     though far from perfect, of Islamic rule in this past decade were
>     the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Islamic courts in Somalia. In
>     both countries only these Muslim fighters brought peace, security
>     and rule of law in both countries. Both movements reached to power
>     not through elections or debates but through war. They did not
>     fall because they were failures but they fell because the ummah
>     failed them. However, even though a battle here and there were
>     lost but the war is not over. If you follow the current events and
>     look at them with an attentive eye you would realize that it is
>     the enemy who is bleeding to death not the Muslim fighters. Pretty
>     soon the scales will tip.
>
>     Because confusion usually surrounds what is meant by Jihad whether
>     it is the Jihad al Nafs or Jihad of the sword I do not exclusively
>     mean one or the other and I do not exclude one or the other. What
>     I mean by Jihad here is not just picking up a gun and fighting.
>     Jihad is broader than that. What is meant by Jihad in this context
>     is a total effort by the ummah to fight and defeat its enemy.
>     Rasulullah says: Fight the disbelievers with your self, your
>     wealth and your tongues. It is what Clausewitz would refer to as
>     "total war" but with the Islamic rules of engagement. It is a
>     battle in the battlefield and a battle for the hearts and minds of
>     the people.
>
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>     Linda
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> -- 
> Surah Isra 17 verse 80 Say: "O my Lord! let my entry be by the Gate of 
> Truth and Honor and likewise my exit by the Gate of Truth and Honor; 
> and grant me from Thy Presence an authority to aid (me)."
>
> Ameen
> Transliteration :Wa qur rabbi adkhilni mudkhala sidqiw wa akhrijni 
> mukhraja sidqiw wa-j'al li mil ladunka sulta_nan nasira_(n).
>
> Al-Tirmidhi HadithHadith 2482 Narrated by AbuHurayrah (May Allah be 
> pleased with him)
> Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) used to say, " O Allah, grant me 
> benefit in what Thou hast taught me, teach me what will benefit me, 
> and increase my knowledge. Praise be to Allah in all circumstances. I 
> seek refuge in Allah from the state of those who go to Hell."
> Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah transmitted it, Tirmidhi saying this is a 
> tradition whose isnad is gharib.
>
> Ameen
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