Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://community.hackit.cx/chat/ for the 18/02/2011.
09:00:12 <> vlad joins Farsides 09:32:41 <Xavier2> Hi Vlad! 09:32:51 <Xavier2> Hi Deborah :D 09:32:59 <tartaruga feliz> hello 09:33:09 <vlad> Hi Xavier 09:33:15 <vlad> Hi Deborah 09:33:25 <Xavier2> David is arriving 09:33:38 <Xavier2> How are you? 09:34:45 <vlad> i'm good, i've caught a cold, but other than that i'm good 09:34:47 <vlad> you? 09:34:54 <Xavier2> ah, damn 09:35:32 <Xavier2> well I'm good - no cold, and I'm refining my organizational system with ZTD, so quite excited today ;p 09:36:00 <Xavier2> How did it went yesterday? 09:36:09 <vlad> what's ZTD? 09:36:18 <Xavier2> http://zenhabits.net/zen-to-done-ztd-the-ultimate-simple-productivity-system/ 09:36:22 <da> hi everyone :) 09:36:49 <Xavier2> It's based on Getting things done, which is a time management system I've been using for some time 09:36:54 <vlad> well i didn't finish the iteration and since i've spent most of the time downloading hackit i think we should disregards that day also :( 09:37:04 <Xavier2> Very useful : ) 09:37:06 <vlad> hi David 09:37:17 <Xavier2> oh, because of the size of the repository? 09:38:51 <vlad> yup, but it's strange i downloaded almost 4Gb at 100K/s :) but it shows me only 250Mb occupied on HDD 09:39:12 <Xavier2> damn, 4GB 09:39:16 <vlad> what's the size on the live site? 09:39:22 <Xavier2> let me see 09:39:47 <Xavier2> 933 MB, but there are logs, etc 09:40:06 <Xavier2> Pit mentioned that too, we'll need to strip down this repository 09:40:13 <Xavier2> So let's get started? 09:40:18 <vlad> ok 09:40:59 <Xavier2> Let's have a look at David's roadmap maybe - to see how we can organize things 09:41:06 <Xavier2> David, do you have the URL? 09:41:34 <da> http://farsides.com/wiki/Tasks_follow-up 09:42:08 <Xavier2> So, lots of stuff there 09:43:13 <Xavier2> Maybe what we could try to do is to see what are the next steps for each of us, and see when we could complete them 09:43:31 <Xavier2> Later on I'd like to set more global objectives, but for this one this should do 09:44:12 <Xavier2> Maybe each of us could have a look at this list, as well as feedback.farsides.com, and select a couple of items 09:44:44 <Xavier2> Vlad it will be easy for you, since we already know what today's iteration will be 09:45:32 <Xavier2> I'll start while you look at it 09:45:37 <tartaruga feliz> for me its still complicated :( 09:45:58 <tartaruga feliz> next week i'll have to take care of a last minute project that I got and I wasn't counting on it 09:46:04 <Xavier2> ok 09:46:26 <tartaruga feliz> and the other week, I just got a new freelancer to do... so... we need to set up a date right now so I don't get anything in front of farsides anymore. 09:46:40 <Xavier2> Sure 09:47:17 <Xavier2> If you want, you can still select items, and afterwards we'll see when each of us need to complete it 09:47:22 <Xavier2> So for me 09:48:20 <Xavier2> Next week I'll want to work on: 1) catching up with the last emails that I have to answe on the ML (mostly from David) 09:48:48 <Xavier2> 2) Finish posting the feedback I've got from people and try to take the lessons from it (to discuss) 09:49:33 <Xavier2> 3) Plan the next deadlines (like Mozilla games) and a trip to Brazil to meet the free software community there 09:50:05 <Xavier2> and 4) Move forward with the two tests on minigames (letters and videosurveillance) 09:50:26 <Xavier2> Who wants to try next? 09:51:03 <tartaruga feliz> sorry but I think I can only start doing what I discussed on the last meeting middle march 09:51:23 <tartaruga feliz> :( 09:51:40 <Xavier2> Propose improvements for the missions interface Finding ideas related to videos (have a look at what the players said in the chat via the admin) and Finding ideas related to videos (have a look at what the players said in the chat via the admin) ? 09:52:38 <tartaruga feliz> yeap 09:53:31 <Xavier2> ok - I think there will be some design work for the website coming too, but we'll get other occasions to discuss it 09:53:49 <Xavier2> When would you be able to complete the two points above? 09:54:40 <tartaruga feliz> It's difficult to say an exact date, but I think I need 2 days to do this 09:55:12 <tartaruga feliz> we can say, 17th of march? 09:55:52 <Xavier2> ok - keep in mind that for the interface there are some changes coming up: Vlad is changing the windowing system, and there is the AI face+voice being investigated too 09:56:11 <tartaruga feliz> ok 09:56:45 <Xavier2> So in one month - ok for me. David, ok for you too? 09:56:49 <vlad> yup, i'm thinking to use the dafault jquery style for windows and then style it according to Deborah sugestions 09:57:20 <da> ok 09:57:24 <Xavier2> would be perfect - it's true that it will be easier to skin the windows with jquery-ui 09:57:42 <Xavier2> Who's next? 09:57:50 <vlad> ok, i'll go 09:57:50 <da> on my side : 1) close admin for incorporation/ fund raising, 2) thorough review of the business plan & tools for expense follow-up and forecast, 3) HPO production pipeline -> have a proposal related to decentralized scrum, 4) Contract for Vlad 5) biz dev - some first ideas to be posted on the mailing list (not sure but I'll try) 09:57:55 <Xavier2> ahahahah 09:58:14 <vlad> my bad :) 09:58:15 <Xavier2> For next week? 09:59:16 <da> 1) yes, and 2) to 5) : at least a first proposal on the ml 09:59:27 <Xavier2> ok 09:59:35 <Xavier2> Vlad? : ) 09:59:55 <da> sorry Vlad :) 10:00:07 <da> I stole your turn 10:00:35 <vlad> today i'll work on jquery windows 10:01:10 <vlad> next iteration could be the list from the feedback that we discussed previously and disregarded in favor of jquery 10:01:30 <Xavier2> Yup, sounds good to me 10:01:49 <Xavier2> In any case you'll be able to confirm next Friday 10:02:17 <vlad> yup. Also the js test will have to get on the list at some point 10:02:32 <Xavier2> Definitely 10:02:39 <Xavier2> Would be good to finish the discussion on the timing for going to full time + contract too 10:02:58 <vlad> yup, i know 10:03:13 <da> before that, I'm currently updating the roadmap, can you please remind me what would be the task for next week Vlad ? 10:03:40 <da> ah ok : change windowing system right ? 10:03:54 <Xavier2> yep 10:03:55 <vlad> this will be this week, today 10:04:32 <vlad> next week i'll work on some of the feedback items. There is a list i have to retrieve it from the emailed chat log 10:05:06 <Xavier2> ok 10:05:26 <Xavier2> Vlad did you see David's message about the contract/full time yesterday in the chat? 10:06:47 <vlad> yes, i did. i'm good with the start date somewhere between 15 and 30 March 10:07:01 <da> good 10:07:12 <Xavier2> ok perfect 10:07:40 <da> Note on the side : I 've updated the roadmap accordingly to your inputs -> http://farsides.com/wiki/Tasks_follow-up 10:07:45 <Xavier2> While David is finishing updating the roadmap, does it work for you this weekly meeting to decide the next steps? 10:08:01 <Xavier2> Is it good like this, or would you prefer another way to decide stuff? 10:08:31 <vlad> i like it this way. if it's ok with you i think we should keep it unchanged 10:09:33 <tartaruga feliz> well, for me it would be better to participate when I start working on the project 10:09:46 <tartaruga feliz> right now I can't help much :( 10:10:16 <Xavier2> I understand 10:10:45 <Xavier2> What would be the best way to not end up in this situation, where you can't help? 10:11:15 <tartaruga feliz> its just what I told you, I'm working on other projects right now 10:12:15 <Xavier2> I know, but is there a way to work that would allow you to be more available when necessary? 10:12:47 <tartaruga feliz> the thing is, its not always that you need me 10:12:52 <tartaruga feliz> its divided by tasks right? 10:13:10 <tartaruga feliz> there are some moments that I need to be full oriented to the project but then when its over, its over... 10:13:22 <Xavier2> And would you like to change that? 10:13:40 <tartaruga feliz> I don't know if you need that actually 10:14:02 <tartaruga feliz> do you think you need a designer full time? 10:14:43 <Xavier2> I would need to think about it, but complete full time probably not quite yet - but maybe we could find something 10:14:53 <Xavier2> Maybe something like for Vlad at the moment 10:15:43 <Xavier2> Where we still work on tasks, but we try to make them fit in one day and do it every Friday 10:15:57 <Xavier2> Vlad maybe you want to talk a bit about what it gives for you? 10:16:09 <tartaruga feliz> but you think you'll have work for me every week? 10:16:33 <Xavier2> That's what we could try to find out - I haven't really thought about it yet 10:17:03 <tartaruga feliz> hahaahah you should then! :P 10:17:41 <Xavier2> This could help to spread out the work you do on the project on a more regular basis, rather than a big chunk of work every now and then 10:17:57 <tartaruga feliz> you prefer like this? 10:18:09 <Xavier2> ahah, the question is for you : ) 10:18:19 <da> you two are cute :) 10:18:23 <tartaruga feliz> I prefer a big chunk of work every now and then, thats the thing ahhahaha 10:18:33 <Xavier2> ahahahah 10:18:49 <Xavier2> yep, but what about the availability? 10:19:17 <tartaruga feliz> we need to discuss in advance, that's one thing 10:19:57 <tartaruga feliz> the other thing is that I never know exactly what you need and if you're not going to change your mind in the middle, so... I'm never sure if I'm going to do a task or not 10:20:11 <Xavier2> hmmm 10:20:18 <tartaruga feliz> so its difficult for me to organize my agenda 10:20:38 <Xavier2> David, Vlad, what do you think? 10:20:58 <tartaruga feliz> no no my question is for you! :P (just kidding) hahahaha 10:21:05 <Xavier2> ahahahaha GRRRRRRRR 10:22:25 <da> I think we should be able to have a list of available tasks on the art side, where Deb' could pick a task every week, don't you think Xav ? Maybe starting in a couple of weeks from now, time for Deb to be more available and for you to organize the backlog of tasks 10:22:30 <da> just a suggestion 10:22:48 <tartaruga feliz> I like it 10:23:18 <Xavier2> So it would be more on a weekly basis then, like Vlad? 10:23:29 <Xavier2> With a pool of stuff to pick tasks from 10:23:55 <tartaruga feliz> yes if this works well with you, I'm ok with it 10:24:23 <Xavier2> ok then - when would you want to start this? 10:24:43 <tartaruga feliz> march 14th 10:24:49 <tartaruga feliz> its in my agenda already. 10:24:58 <tartaruga feliz> so nobody is going to steal it! 10:25:43 <Xavier2> ok - maybe then agree on the same day you and Vlad, this way you would be able to discuss if you have dependencies? 10:26:07 <tartaruga feliz> ok 10:26:13 <tartaruga feliz> which day is this? 10:26:29 <vlad> it's friday ok with you Deb? we can change if you don't like it 10:26:39 <tartaruga feliz> its ok 10:26:48 <vlad> then friday it is :) 10:26:50 <da> it would be march 11th then i guess 10:27:06 <tartaruga feliz> hehehe 10:27:09 <da> or 18th ? 10:27:11 <Xavier2> :D 10:27:14 <tartaruga feliz> actually I need it to be the 18 :( 10:27:16 <tartaruga feliz> sorry 10:27:27 <Xavier2> ahahah, fair enough 10:27:35 <tartaruga feliz> so its every friday for farsides, starting with the 18th of march 10:27:50 <Xavier2> And if we are lucky with French administration paperwork, Vlad may have switched back to full time by then 10:28:19 <Xavier2> Ah, just one thing about this method, just to be clear 10:28:57 <Xavier2> In the morning, we meet in the chat to decide the task, and we try to make sure it's something that fits in the day (even trying to make it shorter than a day to give time to do it well) 10:29:15 <tartaruga feliz> ok 10:29:20 <da> yep 10:29:45 <Xavier2> But it's still the task that measure completion, not the end of the day 10:29:54 <vlad> agreed 10:30:00 <da> indeed 10:30:13 <tartaruga feliz> ok 10:30:17 <da> updated http://farsides.com/wiki/Tasks_follow-up again 10:30:36 <Xavier2> perfect! 10:32:22 <Xavier2> Ah and there are two other requirements: you'll need to be in the chat during the day in case someone else needs to discuss something with you, and post a debrief of what you completed at the end of the day 10:33:10 <Xavier2> (sorry for being a pain, but it's just to have the minimal organization needed to not be stuck) 10:33:48 <vlad> yup, although it can be a problem with the chat timeouts. does this happen to you? 10:33:49 <tartaruga feliz> uhhhh 10:33:58 <tartaruga feliz> Iyeap 10:34:05 <tartaruga feliz> I agree 10:34:06 <Xavier2> It does sometimes yes 10:34:07 <tartaruga feliz> ok! 10:34:12 <da> Igood too 10:34:22 <Xavier2> Sometimes I even talk without people seeing what I write : ) 10:34:37 <tartaruga feliz> really? 10:34:39 <tartaruga feliz> hahahahahaha 10:34:45 <Xavier2> Grrrr 10:34:46 <Xavier2> :D 10:34:58 <tartaruga feliz> you're a crazy person you talk to your imaginary friend on the chat 10:35:08 <Xavier2> What I do is that I try to refresh the chat from time to times, to check that I'm not on a timeout 10:35:15 <vlad> the thing is that i rely on the sound the chat makes when someone posts. if i timeout i don't hear it and then i see someone asked a question a couple oh hours before :) 10:35:29 <Xavier2> yep, agreed, it sucks 10:36:27 <Xavier2> I'll put in my todo to try to find a better chat solution - IRC is best for this kind of things, but I need to find the right webchat gateway 10:36:56 <tartaruga feliz> yes lets find a better one please 10:37:23 <Xavier2> Grmmmml 10:37:25 <Xavier2> :D 10:37:43 <Xavier2> ok good for today for me - anything else? 10:37:57 <da> good for me too 10:38:01 <tartaruga feliz> when do we have a better chat? :D 10:38:03 <vlad> i'm good 10:38:06 <tartaruga feliz> just kidding! I'm good! 10:38:11 <tartaruga feliz> byyy yye! 10:38:12 <Xavier2> GRRRRR :D 10:38:32 <da> have a great day everyone :) 10:38:42 <tartaruga feliz> you too! 10:38:55 <Xavier2> Yep - good luck with the windowing system Vlad. I should be around if you needed me 10:39:02 <vlad> thanks 10:39:32 <Xavier2> And thanks for coming here :D Next Friday same time? Is it ok Deborah, even if you feel helpless? : ) 10:39:51 <tartaruga feliz> I'll think about it ok? 10:40:02 <tartaruga feliz> seriously, because the work I need to finish is not an easy one 10:40:13 <tartaruga feliz> and I really want to finish it once and for all next week. 10:40:42 <Xavier2> ok - if you can't come then just let us know on the ML, ok? 10:40:46 <tartaruga feliz> ok 10:40:56 <Xavier2> Have a good day : ) 10:41:02 <tartaruga feliz> good day! 10:45:23 <vlad> tartaruga feliz quit (timeout) 11:29:03 <Xavier2> vlad quit (timeout) 12:10:41 <> vlad joins Farsides 12:43:41 <Xavier2> vlad quit (timeout) 13:26:36 <Xavier2> da quit (timeout) 14:14:12 <> Ajay @Codefire joins Farsides 14:14:29 <Ajay @Codefire> Hi 14:14:54 <Ajay @Codefire> Xavier are you there? 14:15:22 <Xavier2> Hi Ajay 14:15:45 <Ajay @Codefire> Hi Xavier, How are you? 14:15:54 <Xavier2> I'm good and you? 14:16:04 <Xavier2> What happened? 14:16:08 <Ajay @Codefire> I am good as well thanks 14:16:43 <Ajay @Codefire> I was on leave and then when came back there was really lots of work pending 14:17:01 <Ajay @Codefire> hence could not connect though I wanted to connect earlier 14:18:19 <Xavier2> I see 14:19:06 <Xavier2> Well, thanks for coming at the end, I'm glad we can talk 14:19:17 <Ajay @Codefire> :) 14:19:54 <Xavier2> So where are things with Card Stories? Was Pramendra able to finish? 14:22:21 <Ajay @Codefire> Card stories has most of the functionality in place and he has set up the unit test cases as well.... some things that are remaining are on functional implementation are FB invites etc which he was not able to customize 14:25:37 <Ajay @Codefire> So I think we are at a stage where we wanted you to provide feedback comments in the code so that we can finalize that and complete unit tests according to that 14:25:47 <Ajay @Codefire> and then lastly finish windmill tests 14:26:51 <Xavier2> Alright - a few questions then 14:27:27 <Xavier2> 1) Was the latest version of the code uploaded on Launchpad? I'll retreive it from there 14:27:54 <Ajay @Codefire> I shall confirm that in a little bit and let you know 14:28:10 <Xavier2> 2) Can you make sure the installation instructions for the code base are up to date and work? I'll probably reinstall from scratch - it has been some time so I don't want to miss something out 14:28:15 <Xavier2> ok 14:28:25 <Ajay @Codefire> ok 14:28:59 <Xavier2> 3) Is there a precise list of the things that are still missing? This way I'll only focus on things that are supposed to work, and I'll try to find solutions with you for the things that remain 14:29:22 <Ajay @Codefire> Sure I shall provide the list of things that are mising 14:29:32 <Xavier2> Perfect 14:30:15 <Xavier2> Can you send 2 & 3 by email on the mailing-list ([email protected]) as soon as you get confirmation for 1) ? 14:30:58 <Ajay @Codefire> I will send you all the 3 point in email 14:31:13 <Xavier2> Perfect, thanks Ajay 14:31:36 <Ajay @Codefire> Thanks Xavier 14:31:56 <Xavier2> Is pramendra still reading the mailing-list? I'll reply there as well as to you 14:35:45 <Ajay @Codefire> Pramendra still has problem with his back and would probably not be able to work on this any more since if he sits long enough pain comes back... so we shall allocate another resource to complete this project 14:36:02 <Ajay @Codefire> but I think he is still in the mail list 14:38:25 <Xavier2> ok - so how would we proceed with the feedback? Do you think it would be good to bring the person who would replace Pramendra in the discussion now? 14:41:15 <Ajay @Codefire> I shall send you the details of the developer working on this project in the email. We can have his email included in the mail list 14:41:48 <Xavier2> perfect, thanks 14:41:50 <Ajay @Codefire> Pramendra has briefed the developer about the project and he shall be available as needed 14:42:05 <Xavier2> Does he speak good English? 14:42:20 <Ajay @Codefire> :) better than pramendra 14:42:59 <Ajay @Codefire> I mean yes 14:43:07 <Xavier2> good 14:43:08 <Xavier2> :) 14:43:24 <Ajay @Codefire> so I will get the 3 points sent to you and the email of the developer and then we shall go from there 14:43:50 <Xavier2> that's good 14:44:25 <Xavier2> I'll try to have a look at the code in the next few days, to move forward 14:44:33 <Xavier2> Thanks for coming here Ajay 14:45:02 <Ajay @Codefire> Thanks Xavier... 14:45:06 <Ajay @Codefire> bye for now 14:45:44 <Xavier2> Just one important thing - between the delays in December and the silence lately, it has really penalised the project 14:45:52 <vlad> Ajay @Codefire quit (timeout) 14:46:03 <Xavier2> Grrr 14:59:21 <vlad> Xavier, do you happen to know where you placed the code to redirect the user to intro? 15:09:23 <vlad> nevermind i got it :) 17:20:14 <Xavier2> vlad quit (timeout) 18:28:33 <Xavier2> vlad quit (timeout) 18:34:27 <vlad> Xavier2 quit (timeout) 19:10:18 <vlad> all right i'm going home. have a good night all 19:22:42 <Xavier2> vlad quit (timeout) _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
