Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-05-12.
2011-05-12 01:00:45+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 01:36:05+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping 2011-05-12 03:02:22+0000 Netoca (Netoca) is now online 2011-05-12 03:08:16+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 03:33:32+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-12 06:09:20+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I will be at the cafe down your building at 9h30. 2011-05-12 06:10:17+0000 <dachary> going to school + breakfast in the meantime. Could you text me if I cannot come to visit ? 2011-05-12 06:20:40+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 07:13:15+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 08:46:39+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-12 09:01:09+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-12 09:32:50+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 11:55:32+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-12 12:02:23+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: je sollicite ton attention sur http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/39 2011-05-12 12:02:33+0000 <dachary> je vais partir dans 28 minutes 2011-05-12 12:02:46+0000 <dachary> I ask for your attention on http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/39 2011-05-12 12:02:51+0000 <dachary> I'm leaving in 28 minutes 2011-05-12 12:31:13+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-05-12 13:16:38+0000 da (da) is now online 2011-05-12 13:52:06+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-05-12 13:52:10+0000 <romulo> good morning =] 2011-05-12 13:52:22+0000 Netoca (Netoca) is now online 2011-05-12 13:55:26+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping =] 2011-05-12 14:50:34+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 14:50:43+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping =] 2011-05-12 14:50:55+0000 <antoviaque> hi romulo : ) 2011-05-12 14:51:05+0000 <romulo> how are you? good morning (or afternoon in your case) 2011-05-12 14:51:12+0000 <antoviaque> good morning : ) 2011-05-12 14:52:00+0000 <romulo> Yesterday i wrote the test case, it failed, then i fixed it, and its not failing anymore. But im still a bit confused about how the debugging process happens. 2011-05-12 14:52:13+0000 <romulo> I got some unexpected "Internal server error" and didnt know where to look at. 2011-05-12 14:52:20+0000 <romulo> Other than that, i have it pretty much done 2011-05-12 14:52:31+0000 <antoviaque> cool that it's done : ) 2011-05-12 14:52:59+0000 <romulo> Also, i wanted to introduce you Netoca 2011-05-12 14:53:03+0000 <antoviaque> For the debugging process, I think dachary meant that it should be debugged through the tests, not manual testing 2011-05-12 14:53:07+0000 <romulo> He is my roommate i was talking about 2011-05-12 14:53:12+0000 <antoviaque> oh, hi Netoca! 2011-05-12 14:53:21+0000 <Netoca> hello antoviaque 2011-05-12 14:53:26+0000 <Netoca> how are you? 2011-05-12 14:53:37+0000 <antoviaque> I'm very good! 2011-05-12 14:53:41+0000 <antoviaque> How about you? : ) 2011-05-12 14:53:49+0000 <Netoca> im fine, thanks! 2011-05-12 14:54:17+0000 <antoviaque> Nice to meet you : ) 2011-05-12 14:54:32+0000 <Netoca> Nice meeting you too =) 2011-05-12 14:55:06+0000 <Netoca> Romulo told me you're looking for a storyteller for company 2011-05-12 14:55:13+0000 <antoviaque> Yup! 2011-05-12 14:55:14+0000 <Netoca> for your company* 2011-05-12 14:55:35+0000 <antoviaque> It's for our second game, HPO 2011-05-12 14:55:48+0000 <antoviaque> It's a kind of spy agent game... 2011-05-12 14:56:00+0000 <antoviaque> You know 24, the TV series? 2011-05-12 14:56:09+0000 <Netoca> Yes 2011-05-12 14:56:20+0000 <Netoca> I have seen a few episodes 2011-05-12 14:56:41+0000 <antoviaque> The idea is to build a game where you play the role of Chloe in 24, aka an analyst 2011-05-12 14:56:58+0000 <antoviaque> The person who gather information, repositions the satellites, etc. : ) 2011-05-12 14:57:17+0000 <Netoca> Interesting 2011-05-12 14:57:22+0000 <antoviaque> I can actually show you the demo of a prototype if you want, so that you can have a look 2011-05-12 14:57:36+0000 <Netoca> I like these kind of games 2011-05-12 14:57:51+0000 <Netoca> Sure 2011-05-12 14:57:53+0000 <antoviaque> It's very basic and rough (far from the finished game), but it could give you an idea of what it could give 2011-05-12 14:58:13+0000 <antoviaque> http://humanityprojectonline.com/ 2011-05-12 14:58:33+0000 <antoviaque> Right now it only implements one specific type of mission - information gathering on the Internet 2011-05-12 14:58:42+0000 <antoviaque> but it would eventually feature other types of missions 2011-05-12 14:58:57+0000 <antoviaque> And you'll see, it's far from being polished ;p 2011-05-12 14:59:39+0000 <Netoca> But the idea is good 2011-05-12 14:59:39+0000 <antoviaque> Right now though, we're focusing on finishing a very different game, Card Stories 2011-05-12 14:59:48+0000 <antoviaque> Glad you like it : ) 2011-05-12 15:00:49+0000 <antoviaque> But we'll need to work on the game design and the storytelling of HPO in the meantime, to be more clear about what to try when we resume the work on HPO 2011-05-12 15:01:15+0000 <antoviaque> Did you already work with games? 2011-05-12 15:01:33+0000 <Netoca> Yes, a little bit 2011-05-12 15:01:52+0000 <Netoca> But i also make a lot of stories for RPG 2011-05-12 15:02:20+0000 <antoviaque> Interesting! I would be glad to read some of your work 2011-05-12 15:02:29+0000 <antoviaque> Do you write in Protuguese or English? 2011-05-12 15:02:35+0000 <antoviaque> Portuguese 2011-05-12 15:02:56+0000 <Netoca> Sure, i usually write them in portuguese, but i can translate them and hand them over to you 2011-05-12 15:03:33+0000 <antoviaque> I would be happy to read it yup! 2011-05-12 15:03:50+0000 <Netoca> We also developed a complete armory database, besides the full story for an RPG of ours 2011-05-12 15:04:14+0000 <Netoca> I'll start translating a few things to show to you right now 2011-05-12 15:04:30+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-05-12 15:04:33+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-05-12 15:05:59+0000 <Netoca> I'll go have lunch right now because it's 12:00pm here 2011-05-12 15:06:13+0000 <Netoca> Be back soon and I'll do the translations for you 2011-05-12 15:13:40+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-12 15:16:38+0000 <dachary> hi romulo 2011-05-12 15:16:52+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: ok! have a good lunch : ) 2011-05-12 15:16:53+0000 * dachary trying to play a game with the latest git from cardstori.es 2011-05-12 15:16:56+0000 <antoviaque> re dachary 2011-05-12 15:20:51+0000 * romulo trying to make a patch with git *used to mercurial* 2011-05-12 15:21:13+0000 <dachary> git diff ? 2011-05-12 15:22:06+0000 <romulo> i know, but im looking for a graphical solution 2011-05-12 15:22:10+0000 <romulo> im used to tortoisehg 2011-05-12 15:22:17+0000 <romulo> we are not in the 90's anymore :P 2011-05-12 15:22:18+0000 <Netoca> antoviaque, I'm back 2011-05-12 15:23:02+0000 <Netoca> I'll translate a story for a Star Wars Character that I made for you to see 2011-05-12 15:24:35+0000 <dachary> romulo: the problem is that the authors and most users of git won't use graphical frontends 2011-05-12 15:25:21+0000 <romulo> yeah, they still live in the 90's 2011-05-12 15:26:58+0000 <romulo> antoviaque and dachary, i wrote the test for issuing the problem, but i really wanted to know if theres any log when the server crashes (or gives internal error) with some kind of backtrace 2011-05-12 15:46:39+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://cardstori.es/loic/ does not work the first time around and needs a reload. It barks because "jquery not found". I know you faced the problem a few days ago. Did you solve it ? 2011-05-12 15:46:57+0000 <dachary> romulo: yes there are 2011-05-12 15:47:15+0000 <dachary> if you are running from the command line, it should be the standard output 2011-05-12 15:47:40+0000 <dachary> if you run from init.d script, it will be in /var/log/cardstories/access.log 2011-05-12 15:47:44+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: hmm, not sure what you're referring to 2011-05-12 15:47:55+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-05-12 15:48:21+0000 <antoviaque> The issue I had was more with the loading of some files 2011-05-12 15:48:54+0000 <antoviaque> but it was random, and only happened when loading several instances of Card Stories at the same time in the same browser tab 2011-05-12 15:49:16+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, C&C please -> http://pastie.org/private/c6rnnlt1gjvs0nichuzosa 2011-05-12 15:49:24+0000 <romulo> brb one sec 2011-05-12 15:49:52+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: thx! 2011-05-12 15:50:41+0000 <antoviaque> Looks good, but you still need to pass the Old Dragon test :P 2011-05-12 15:50:45+0000 <antoviaque> Can you add it as a comment in the relevant ticket, and assign it to dachary for review? 2011-05-12 15:51:28+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm currently having what looks like this kind of problem 2011-05-12 15:52:41+0000 <antoviaque> uhuh 2011-05-12 15:52:48+0000 <dachary> GET /static/index.html?player_id=agnes HTTP/1.0" 304 2011-05-12 15:52:59+0000 <dachary> I think that's the problem 2011-05-12 15:53:03+0000 <dachary> agressive caching 2011-05-12 15:53:08+0000 <dachary> *way* too agressive 2011-05-12 15:53:37+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, define "Old Dragon test" - please - :D 2011-05-12 15:55:59+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-05-12 15:56:05+0000 <antoviaque> You'll see :p 2011-05-12 15:57:41+0000 <romulo> ok :P 2011-05-12 15:58:40+0000 <dachary> romulo: that would be me 2011-05-12 15:59:12+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque runs away to avoid the wrath 2011-05-12 15:59:17+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-05-12 15:59:33+0000 <romulo> oh 2011-05-12 16:01:53+0000 * dachary is puzzled by the iframes behavior 2011-05-12 16:04:02+0000 <romulo> the reassign field is kinda weird :P 2011-05-12 16:04:23+0000 <romulo> i submitted the file as an attachment to the bug report, but im still not sure how to reassign it - or if i do have permissions for it - 2011-05-12 16:04:46+0000 * dachary breathe deeply 2011-05-12 16:04:50+0000 <antoviaque> you can - but you have to put the openid in the reassign field 2011-05-12 16:04:58+0000 <dachary> the iframe behavior makes *NO SENSE* at all 2011-05-12 16:05:11+0000 <antoviaque> (have a look at the other tickets to get Loic's) 2011-05-12 16:05:19+0000 <romulo> ah, ok 2011-05-12 16:05:23+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: yep, agreed - I couldn't make sense of it either 2011-05-12 16:05:32+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: sorry, not very intuitive : ) 2011-05-12 16:05:37+0000 <dachary> it's not even loading the pages ! 2011-05-12 16:05:41+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-05-12 16:05:42+0000 <dachary> WTF 2011-05-12 16:06:10+0000 <antoviaque> I was wondering back then if it wasn't a limit on the number of concurrent requests 2011-05-12 16:06:35+0000 <antoviaque> But I didn't investigate more 2011-05-12 16:07:31+0000 <romulo> damn, this openid thing is not friendly at all (the links) 2011-05-12 16:07:55+0000 <romulo> but THIS (http://dachary.org/loic/openid.html) is very clear :D 2011-05-12 16:09:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it worked two weeks ago, like a charm 2011-05-12 16:09:16+0000 <dachary> what the hell happened in the meantime 2011-05-12 16:09:31+0000 <dachary> that must be something really stupid 2011-05-12 16:12:33+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: yup, loic managed to get it to work on his url - I couldn't ;p 2011-05-12 16:12:43+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque thinks OpenId is always a mess 2011-05-12 16:13:24+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: when I tested, your iframe hack was working, but it stopped working as soon as you tried to add more player tabs 2011-05-12 16:15:43+0000 <dachary> this is nuts 2011-05-12 16:15:57+0000 <dachary> since when loading a url in an iframe is a hack ? 2011-05-12 16:16:45+0000 <antoviaque> I mean, it's a quick hack way to get a standalone multiplayer Card Stories ;p 2011-05-12 16:17:06+0000 <dachary> I'll get to the bottom of this 2011-05-12 16:19:54+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's working fine with jquery-1.5 ... it's a jquery-1.6 bug 2011-05-12 16:20:12+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: please refrain from trolling ;-) 2011-05-12 16:21:13+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is trying hard to resist 2011-05-12 16:21:16+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-05-12 16:21:53+0000 <dachary> actualy introduced in jquery-1.5.2 2011-05-12 16:21:59+0000 <dachary> 1.5.1 works fine 2011-05-12 16:24:46+0000 <romulo> bleeding edge fail? :/ 2011-05-12 16:25:14+0000 <antoviaque> no, dachary never goes on the bleeding edge, tss tss 2011-05-12 16:25:28+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is laughing out loud :p 2011-05-12 16:25:43+0000 <romulo> hahaha 2011-05-12 16:25:59+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-05-12 16:26:39+0000 <dachary> romulo: antoviaque ... go ahead, indulge yourself. My vengeance will be in proportion to my humiliation. 2011-05-12 16:26:51+0000 <antoviaque> oooohhh 2011-05-12 16:27:15+0000 <antoviaque> (romulo, beware of the review, dachary may attempt to rewrite it all :p ) 2011-05-12 16:27:57+0000 <romulo> poor me :( 2011-05-12 16:28:03+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-05-12 16:28:06+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-05-12 16:30:01+0000 <romulo> anyway dachary, the faster the review goes out, the faster i can fix something :P (i still need to get a bit more used to the debugging process, but i guess its a good start) 2011-05-12 16:32:10+0000 <romulo> but i dont want to rush anything :P 2011-05-12 16:32:38+0000 * romulo wonder how portal 2 runs on wine/crossover 2011-05-12 16:34:00+0000 <antoviaque> If you get it to work, let me know - I need to try it out : ) 2011-05-12 16:35:53+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: I guess the rollback to jquery 1.5 will change what you commited this afternoon, right? Should I wait for the merge? 2011-05-12 16:36:22+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: that will not change much 2011-05-12 16:37:45+0000 <dachary> I forgot the invitation_owner, working on it 2011-05-12 16:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-05-12 16:38:29+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I mean you can merge without risking any trouble. The fixes I'm doing will be very light. 2011-05-12 16:38:39+0000 <antoviaque> perfect - thx : ) 2011-05-12 16:38:57+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque tries to merge 2011-05-12 16:39:00+0000 <dachary> romulo: what ticket would you like me to review ? 2011-05-12 16:39:26+0000 <romulo> #62 2011-05-12 16:40:22+0000 <romulo> im really happy with the newest ubuntu 2011-05-12 16:40:29+0000 <romulo> It just works(TM) 2011-05-12 16:40:40+0000 <antoviaque> gnome3 or unity? 2011-05-12 16:41:18+0000 <romulo> unity 2011-05-12 16:41:22+0000 <romulo> i really dislike gnome 3 2011-05-12 16:41:30+0000 <romulo> it forces me into something i dont want. 2011-05-12 16:41:45+0000 <antoviaque> interesting - I got the exact opposite feeling ;p 2011-05-12 16:41:55+0000 <antoviaque> what do you find better in unity? 2011-05-12 16:42:09+0000 <romulo> it is not a totally new concept 2011-05-12 16:42:25+0000 <romulo> its kinda OSX for linux 2011-05-12 16:43:04+0000 <romulo> Like the maximize/minimize buttons on gnome3 2011-05-12 16:43:23+0000 <romulo> Or the multi monitor problem 2011-05-12 16:43:29+0000 <antoviaque> Really? I didn't use unity for very long, but I found it more like Vista, while gnome3 looks really like the Mac Deborah uses 2011-05-12 16:43:51+0000 <romulo> well i only used unity on ubuntu 11.04 2011-05-12 16:43:59+0000 <antoviaque> For the buttons you can switch to the normal ones (which is what I did) 2011-05-12 16:44:02+0000 <antoviaque> in gnome3 2011-05-12 16:44:07+0000 <romulo> im running it now on a vm (since osx is on my other partition) 2011-05-12 16:44:18+0000 <antoviaque> And for the multi monitor, I use 2, what issue did you had? 2011-05-12 16:44:25+0000 <romulo> yeah i know you can. What bothers me is the "we dont need you" attitude of gnome of removing them by default 2011-05-12 16:44:47+0000 <romulo> hmm i saw users complaining it doesnt work well. I only tested gnome 3 in beta phase :P 2011-05-12 16:46:32+0000 <antoviaque> Well I was startled at first, since you can only have multiple desktops on the primary and the option to change the primary monitor is hard to see, but now that I did found it it really matches the way I use my monitors (the big one with the multiple desktops/apps, and the laptop one with IRC) 2011-05-12 16:46:57+0000 <antoviaque> But I can understand how it can be a matter of taste : ) 2011-05-12 16:47:13+0000 <romulo> yeah, i think it ends up with the "taste" =] 2011-05-12 16:47:23+0000 <antoviaque> yup : ) 2011-05-12 16:47:24+0000 <romulo> also, im a great KDE fan :P 2011-05-12 16:47:35+0000 <romulo> C++ over C (since im a C++ programmer) 2011-05-12 16:48:01+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, that one always eluded me - but I think it was mostly a matter of visual taste there 2011-05-12 16:48:15+0000 <Netoca> almost finishing here 2011-05-12 16:48:21+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: cool : ) 2011-05-12 16:48:25+0000 <Netoca> =) 2011-05-12 16:48:27+0000 <romulo> well, KDE has Qt, thats why i like it =] 2011-05-12 16:48:30+0000 <dachary> romulo: http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/62#comment:3 here it is 2011-05-12 16:48:33+0000 <dachary> enjoy :-) 2011-05-12 16:48:47+0000 <dachary> I've been kind despite you mocking me. Because I deserved it ;-) 2011-05-12 16:49:58+0000 <romulo> Well put comments. Should i fix the issues and resubmit? 2011-05-12 16:50:31+0000 <romulo> dachary, my python is not the best atm, so i end up with mistakes like the filter call. 2011-05-12 16:51:17+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/62#comment:4 2011-05-12 16:51:44+0000 <romulo> np about the [], i understood the first time. 2011-05-12 16:51:47+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-05-12 16:52:04+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: thanks for the review :D 2011-05-12 16:52:07+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, want to join the bashing comment session? 2011-05-12 16:52:10+0000 <romulo> :D 2011-05-12 16:52:47+0000 <antoviaque> I would have a hard time, I'm usually the one who gets such comments ;p 2011-05-12 16:52:50+0000 <romulo> (btw, i got really happy to know about lambda's in python - also lists inner working states) 2011-05-12 16:53:21+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ah, i meant - "will you pull my ears and kick me out or we are getting somewhere?" 2011-05-12 16:53:29+0000 <romulo> =D 2011-05-12 16:56:49+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, don't worry - we'll see what it will give at the end, but it's not eliminatory to get comments during the review. It's also how we can improve ourselves : ) 2011-05-12 16:57:22+0000 <antoviaque> What counts the most is the attitude, the willingness to improve 2011-05-12 16:58:50+0000 <romulo> =] 2011-05-12 17:06:49+0000 * dachary finished rewriting invitation_owner 2011-05-12 17:06:50+0000 <dachary> proceeding to tests 2011-05-12 17:10:19+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm killing the "invite" and "refresh" links which were added at a very early stage to help testing 2011-05-12 17:10:47+0000 <antoviaque> The "invite" one is still useful, I use it to pass the link around 2011-05-12 17:11:05+0000 <antoviaque> at least until the related ticket is fixed 2011-05-12 17:11:09+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque looks for the ticket 2011-05-12 17:11:21+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/61 2011-05-12 17:12:19+0000 <antoviaque> Btw I'm looking at the changes from the merge 2011-05-12 17:13:02+0000 <antoviaque> and I'm noticing that it actually removes somes of my changes - like the LICENSE file, or the centering of the game. Normal? 2011-05-12 17:16:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I focused on card selection and did not look into other changes, indeed. 2011-05-12 17:18:15+0000 * romulo is working on the ticket issues 2011-05-12 17:18:21+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-05-12 17:19:33+0000 <dachary> dachary: there may be other changes that are pending in the fbintegration branche. I don't claim that I pulled *all* the changes you made. I'm sorry if I implied I would. 2011-05-12 17:20:20+0000 <antoviaque> no, no worries - just trying to make sure I understand what I should see 2011-05-12 17:20:42+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque still trying to get a good grasp of how git works 2011-05-12 17:21:09+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's the work of a lifetime (git I mean ;-) 2011-05-12 17:21:21+0000 <antoviaque> yup ;p 2011-05-12 17:23:20+0000 <dachary> invitations_owner tests complete 2011-05-12 17:23:29+0000 <dachary> now trying for real 2011-05-12 17:25:27+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, why git instead of mercurial? 2011-05-12 17:25:45+0000 <antoviaque> masochism : ) 2011-05-12 17:26:02+0000 <romulo> ah, figured 2011-05-12 17:26:03+0000 <romulo> =] 2011-05-12 17:26:05+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-05-12 17:26:38+0000 <romulo> i searched like 10 sites right now just to know that i can revert a file change by doing git checkout filepath. Im used to hg revert filepath 2011-05-12 17:27:33+0000 <antoviaque> personally so far I think I prefer bazaar, but it's probably because I've worked the most with it - I know mercurial less, and git becomes so common that it's a good occasion to try to understand the beast 2011-05-12 17:27:44+0000 <antoviaque> But it's an epic quest 2011-05-12 17:35:39+0000 * dachary wonders why the voting button cannot be clicked 2011-05-12 17:37:01+0000 <Netoca> antoviaque, i just finished here 2011-05-12 17:37:07+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: git pull . loic (with . being my current repo and loic being a mirror of your repo) gave conflicts - I suppose that's to be expected given that the parts you rewrote were never merged, but I wonder what's the best way to approach this. Should I try to resolve the conficts, or remove my commits corresponding to the parts you rewrote? 2011-05-12 17:37:25+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: cool - can you send it by email? 2011-05-12 17:37:27+0000 <antoviaque> [email protected] 2011-05-12 17:37:39+0000 <antoviaque> it's the project ml, this way everyone will be able to read it 2011-05-12 17:37:48+0000 <Netoca> it's not a big story, but i think its good for you to at least see how it is 2011-05-12 17:37:55+0000 <antoviaque> Or best - it would be to put it on the buddypress 2011-05-12 17:38:12+0000 <antoviaque> http://farsides.com/blog/groups/ => storytelling 2011-05-12 17:38:48+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: np, it's good to have an example - thanks for translating it! 2011-05-12 17:39:17+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm not sure what to advise because I did not take a look at your changes. 2011-05-12 17:39:47+0000 <Netoca> np, if you guys like it, i can translate some more for you guys to see and hopefully I'll be able to work with you guys on the future =) 2011-05-12 17:39:52+0000 <Netoca> I'll post there 2011-05-12 17:39:59+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: thx! 2011-05-12 17:40:39+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: well it didn't affect the rest of the changes (the ones you didn't look at), the conflicts are more with the parts that you rewrote 2011-05-12 17:42:10+0000 <antoviaque> Not sure if I'm being clear 2011-05-12 17:42:41+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm sorry but I need to complete my commit and then I have a social call. Could we discuss this tomorrow ? 2011-05-12 17:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> np 2011-05-12 17:43:00+0000 <antoviaque> I'll fix the conflicts and we'll see how it goes 2011-05-12 17:44:21+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I pushed my latest changes. 2011-05-12 17:45:18+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/changeset/de0b886c9a9b88fc3b4107ca97743b74ec75d17e/ 2011-05-12 17:45:25+0000 <antoviaque> thx 2011-05-12 17:45:29+0000 <antoviaque> I'll merge that too 2011-05-12 17:45:30+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/changeset/6efb99ddccd2b6e0063ee893febf0cda7b71ba8b 2011-05-12 17:45:45+0000 <romulo> dachary, for test assertion (that invite was called), i though about calling it twice. One without arguments, that just dont crash, and another that really invites. That way if it crashes, it will fail, otherwise it will return a list of players + invites on the assertion. What do you think? 2011-05-12 17:45:47+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/changeset/7fa8aad4a0a6f119f54562f6ec6d07fee6166a2e 2011-05-12 17:46:25+0000 <dachary> romulo: could we discuss this tomorrow ? I need to go now. Social life calls ;-) 2011-05-12 17:47:46+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm really happy about the select_card implementation. It was even a deeper change than I suspected. It took me two full days and the extent of the modifications span over a large part of the code. 2011-05-12 17:48:10+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, I'm seeing that 2011-05-12 17:48:40+0000 <antoviaque> Beautiful code, it improved a lot over what I did - congratz : ) 2011-05-12 17:48:55+0000 <dachary> I've played a solo game and the feedback makes a world of difference ;-) 2011-05-12 17:49:20+0000 <romulo> dachary, ok we can discuss it later 2011-05-12 17:49:27+0000 <romulo> dachary, in any case, i will submit a new patch 2011-05-12 17:49:27+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: although I rewrote it, I hope you will appreciate that I did not change the specifications ;-) 2011-05-12 17:49:34+0000 <romulo> and you can read it tomorrow (since you wake up earlier than me) 2011-05-12 17:49:39+0000 <dachary> romulo: great, I'll review it asap 2011-05-12 17:49:44+0000 <Netoca> antoviaque, you wnat me to create a new topic to post the story example? 2011-05-12 17:49:51+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ahah : ) 2011-05-12 17:50:13+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: Yep, you can just post it at the top 2011-05-12 17:50:17+0000 <dachary> I hope the extent of the change kind of justifies my rewriting. 2011-05-12 17:51:23+0000 <antoviaque> Well you didn't just rewrite, you improved it a lot - it's a much better base now 2011-05-12 17:52:17+0000 <romulo> dachary, new patch is there 2011-05-12 17:52:44+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: that was fast ;p 2011-05-12 17:52:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm glad you appreciate what I did :-) 2011-05-12 17:53:01+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-05-12 17:53:49+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i want this to work out, for both of us =] 2011-05-12 17:54:10+0000 <romulo> and ill keep changing and adapting it until we reach a satisfactory condition :D 2011-05-12 17:55:46+0000 <antoviaque> I'm glad! Thanks for this : ) 2011-05-12 17:59:02+0000 <romulo> you welcome =] 2011-05-12 17:59:07+0000 <romulo> we both want this to get going =] 2011-05-12 17:59:24+0000 <Netoca> guys, i just posted there 2011-05-12 17:59:38+0000 <romulo> i got surprised because no-one contacted you :/ 2011-05-12 17:59:40+0000 <Netoca> if anithyng is wrong please let me know 2011-05-12 17:59:45+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, from the guys we talked 2011-05-12 18:00:41+0000 <Netoca> oh damn! i just saw i made something wrong 2011-05-12 18:01:10+0000 <Netoca> i did not noticed the group already existed >_< 2011-05-12 18:01:45+0000 <Netoca> Can you delete the new group i created? I'll post in the right one this time 2011-05-12 18:01:50+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: ahah, np : ) 2011-05-12 18:02:14+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-05-12 18:02:23+0000 <antoviaque> done 2011-05-12 18:04:55+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: yup, I'm very surprised too 2011-05-12 18:05:15+0000 <antoviaque> Did you had a chance to talk to some of them again since the time we met? 2011-05-12 18:07:42+0000 <Netoca> now it is posted in the correct place 2011-05-12 18:09:10+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is reading 2011-05-12 18:14:12+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-05-12 18:14:31+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i sometimes chat with Rogerio CS 2011-05-12 18:14:37+0000 <romulo> but its been a long time since i did 2011-05-12 18:14:56+0000 <Netoca> so, what do you think? 2011-05-12 18:15:27+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: I see one main issue which will be a blocker here I think - your English is good, but English natives will see that it wasn't written by a native speak 2011-05-12 18:15:33+0000 <antoviaque> speaker 2011-05-12 18:16:11+0000 <antoviaque> I know it's not fair (I have the same problem), but it's sadly important for this role :/ 2011-05-12 18:16:57+0000 <Netoca> yeah..the thing is i did only a fast revision to show something for you today but with more time i can write whithout these problems 2011-05-12 18:17:28+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: if you get a chance, tell rogerio to come chat a bit, it would have been good to see him 2011-05-12 18:17:49+0000 <Netoca> i can try to show something else in the next couple days if you want 2011-05-12 18:18:14+0000 <Netoca> the game is made of several missions right? 2011-05-12 18:18:55+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: yep, you can improve it, but by experience if you don't have the level of a native speaker, it remains a problem 2011-05-12 18:18:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-05-12 18:19:07+0000 <Netoca> i see 2011-05-12 18:19:44+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, sure 2011-05-12 18:20:34+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: I'm sorry to disappoint you :/ But I prefer to tell you directly, as it is an important requirement 2011-05-12 18:20:53+0000 <Netoca> np man, i understand 2011-05-12 18:22:44+0000 <antoviaque> Thanks for understanding... I know it's not nice to hear :/ 2011-05-12 18:23:00+0000 <Netoca> well, if it's not a problem for you i still would like to keep tracking of the game, to see how you guys are doing 2011-05-12 18:23:08+0000 <antoviaque> Of course! 2011-05-12 18:23:18+0000 <Netoca> Thanks 2011-05-12 18:24:00+0000 <antoviaque> Right now the development of HPO is stalled to focus on completing Card Stories, but we'll keep working on some parts, like the game design 2011-05-12 18:25:04+0000 <Netoca> I see 2011-05-12 18:25:37+0000 <antoviaque> But we'll probably talk a bit about it on Sunday, since Charles (a game designer) will be there for a test day, and he'd have to work on it 2011-05-12 18:26:03+0000 <antoviaque> So if you want you can join the meeting - I'd be interested by your opinion 2011-05-12 18:26:11+0000 <antoviaque> Did you look at Card Stories too? 2011-05-12 18:27:04+0000 <Netoca> No, not yet, i only looked at the HPO, because i started writing the text after 2011-05-12 18:27:23+0000 <Netoca> but I'll be glad to join the meeting 2011-05-12 18:27:36+0000 <Netoca> I'll look into the Card Stories too 2011-05-12 18:27:38+0000 <antoviaque> If you want, I can create a game so you can see it 2011-05-12 18:27:50+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: want to play a game too? : ) 2011-05-12 18:28:16+0000 <romulo> cardstories? 2011-05-12 18:28:18+0000 <romulo> sure! 2011-05-12 18:28:57+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: the meeting is at 2pm GMT+2 => you can post here if you can come http://farsides.com/blog/members/antoviaque/activity/562/ 2011-05-12 18:29:09+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: great : ) 2011-05-12 18:29:39+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-12 18:29:53+0000 <antoviaque> re (deco) 2011-05-12 18:30:04+0000 <antoviaque> I'll see if the merge didn't add bugs this way ;p 2011-05-12 18:30:10+0000 <romulo> yeah 2011-05-12 18:33:20+0000 <Netoca> posted in the forum 2011-05-12 18:33:23+0000 <antoviaque> uhu, the merge put some bugs - let's try another version 2011-05-12 18:36:10+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: romulo: da: a game to join => http://cardstori.es/?game_id=48 2011-05-12 18:36:20+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: expect it to be very confusing 2011-05-12 18:36:33+0000 <antoviaque> When you click on the link, you'll need to enter your name 2011-05-12 18:36:39+0000 <Netoca> Np 2011-05-12 18:36:59+0000 <antoviaque> Then you'll have to chose the card that fits the best the sentence you'll read 2011-05-12 18:37:10+0000 <antoviaque> You need to click on that card, and then on "OK" 2011-05-12 18:37:25+0000 <Netoca> where do i enter my name? 2011-05-12 18:37:30+0000 <antoviaque> It won't do anything, so you'll get the feeling that it didn't work, but it's ok : ) 2011-05-12 18:37:37+0000 <antoviaque> Did you click on http://cardstori.es/?game_id=48 ? 2011-05-12 18:37:48+0000 <antoviaque> There should be an input field on the top left 2011-05-12 18:38:47+0000 <antoviaque> hmmm 2011-05-12 18:38:51+0000 <antoviaque> oh oh 2011-05-12 18:38:58+0000 <Netoca> hmm...there is no input field here 2011-05-12 18:39:10+0000 <Netoca> at least im not finding it 2011-05-12 18:39:11+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, I've seen the issue, it's all broken 2011-05-12 18:39:39+0000 <antoviaque> ok - I guess we'll have to wait a bit to do this game - I'll fix my repository and we try again :D 2011-05-12 18:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> Sorry! 2011-05-12 18:39:50+0000 <romulo> one second 2011-05-12 18:39:52+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is embarrassed 2011-05-12 18:39:54+0000 <Netoca> np 2011-05-12 18:40:02+0000 <Netoca> don't worry about it 2011-05-12 18:40:20+0000 <antoviaque> If you stick around on this chan we do some regularly anyway : ) 2011-05-12 18:41:18+0000 <Netoca> nice...i intend to be here yes, you can count on me to help with some testing if you want 2011-05-12 18:42:33+0000 <antoviaque> Ah yep, that would be very helpful! 2011-05-12 18:44:38+0000 <Netoca> Good =) 2011-05-12 18:45:13+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque tries to fix the mess in his code 2011-05-12 18:53:26+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: romulo: ok second try : ) http://cardstories.antoviaque.org:4923/static/?game_id=40 2011-05-12 18:54:11+0000 <Netoca> now it's working =D 2011-05-12 18:55:08+0000 <Netoca> seems nice 2011-05-12 18:55:24+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-05-12 18:55:37+0000 <romulo> one secnod 2011-05-12 18:55:40+0000 <antoviaque> Still a lot of work to do on it, but glad you like it : ) 2011-05-12 18:55:44+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: np, take your time 2011-05-12 18:55:51+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i forgo to ask you. Is your wife tartarugafeliz? 2011-05-12 18:55:57+0000 <antoviaque> yup! 2011-05-12 18:55:58+0000 <romulo> You told me she was Brazilian 2011-05-12 18:56:04+0000 <romulo> cool beans 2011-05-12 18:56:08+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-05-12 18:57:23+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque fixes his tests before dachary comes back :p 2011-05-12 18:58:35+0000 <Netoca> seems to be a nice game, i like the style of the pics 2011-05-12 18:58:41+0000 <Netoca> liked* 2011-05-12 18:58:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep, tartarugafeliz did a really great job 2011-05-12 18:59:03+0000 <Netoca> It's going to be like a daily life based on cards? 2011-05-12 18:59:49+0000 <antoviaque> daily life? 2011-05-12 19:00:49+0000 <Netoca> I mean his chores or what he's going to do during the day 2011-05-12 19:01:58+0000 <antoviaque> Ah - you probably say that because of the sentence I chose "Monday morning", right? 2011-05-12 19:02:04+0000 <Netoca> yeah 2011-05-12 19:02:52+0000 <romulo> i cant access the game 2011-05-12 19:02:58+0000 <antoviaque> The game creator can actually chose any sentence - I could have said "Netoca" and everyone would then try to pick a card that would fit for describing you : ) 2011-05-12 19:03:14+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: http://cardstories.antoviaque.org:4923/static/?game_id=40 ? 2011-05-12 19:03:18+0000 <Netoca> Oh! I see 2011-05-12 19:03:19+0000 <romulo> yeah 2011-05-12 19:03:26+0000 <antoviaque> What does it give? 2011-05-12 19:04:02+0000 <romulo> nothing 2011-05-12 19:04:07+0000 <romulo> i just see the page bg, with title 2011-05-12 19:04:07+0000 <antoviaque> blank page? 2011-05-12 19:04:18+0000 <romulo> yep 2011-05-12 19:04:29+0000 <antoviaque> Try refreshing, maybe you're having a cache issue 2011-05-12 19:04:53+0000 <antoviaque> Or clearing your cache if it's not enough 2011-05-12 19:05:44+0000 <romulo> i already di 2011-05-12 19:05:46+0000 <romulo> trying again. 2011-05-12 19:06:55+0000 <antoviaque> huhu 2011-05-12 19:06:56+0000 <Netoca> only one thing, i think the cards that is selected "the ones that get bigger when the cursor are on them" should pop up in front of the other ones 2011-05-12 19:07:30+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: yes, it was the original behavior, but it creates a weird feeling 2011-05-12 19:08:13+0000 <Netoca> I see...it's just that like this we kind cant' 2011-05-12 19:08:20+0000 <Netoca> can't see the full picture 2011-05-12 19:08:41+0000 <romulo> same weird issue :/ 2011-05-12 19:08:44+0000 <romulo> trying with firefox 2011-05-12 19:08:58+0000 <antoviaque> You can click on it to see the full extent of it 2011-05-12 19:09:20+0000 <antoviaque> And then on "cancel" (which needs to be positioned and skinned) to see another card 2011-05-12 19:09:29+0000 <romulo> same thing with firefox 2011-05-12 19:09:30+0000 <Netoca> Oh! True 2011-05-12 19:09:39+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: hmm, let me see 2011-05-12 19:10:06+0000 <Netoca> Well, when romulo said that i tried refreshing here a few times and it worked perfectly 2011-05-12 19:10:14+0000 <Netoca> Strange 2011-05-12 19:10:19+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-05-12 19:11:55+0000 <romulo> let me try from my window schrome 2011-05-12 19:12:40+0000 <romulo> ohhhhhhhh 2011-05-12 19:12:41+0000 <romulo> found out 2011-05-12 19:12:41+0000 <antoviaque> if you have an error in the console let me know, that could help me to identify the issue 2011-05-12 19:12:43+0000 <romulo> layout is broken 2011-05-12 19:13:00+0000 <romulo> i dont see anything because the text field for the name input is hidden 2011-05-12 19:13:08+0000 <romulo> if you try to minimize or make the window smaller you will notice 2011-05-12 19:13:39+0000 <antoviaque> ah you mean the window was too small to show the whole game? 2011-05-12 19:13:44+0000 <romulo> yeah 2011-05-12 19:13:48+0000 <antoviaque> got it 2011-05-12 19:13:49+0000 <romulo> and there was no scrolling 2011-05-12 19:13:59+0000 <romulo> because the upper part (where the name input is) was hidden (probably top < 0 ) 2011-05-12 19:14:21+0000 <antoviaque> ah true : ) 2011-05-12 19:14:36+0000 <romulo> im going home 2011-05-12 19:14:38+0000 <romulo> be there in 20 minutes 2011-05-12 19:14:40+0000 <romulo> and then i come back 2011-05-12 19:14:40+0000 <antoviaque> Would be worth a ticket, to remember to fix this scrolling issue 2011-05-12 19:14:58+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: ok! 2011-05-12 19:15:01+0000 <Netoca> ok 2011-05-12 19:15:21+0000 <antoviaque> Netoca: we'll have to wait for another player to play this game then : ) 2011-05-12 19:15:26+0000 <antoviaque> But we'll get there ;p 2011-05-12 19:16:10+0000 <Netoca> Yes, the game seems to be nice...and I really enjoyed the comic style of the Pics 2011-05-12 19:16:39+0000 <Netoca> Congratulations to the artist! 2011-05-12 19:19:26+0000 <antoviaque> She will love to hear this : ) 2011-05-12 19:20:06+0000 <Netoca> =) 2011-05-12 19:23:10+0000 <antoviaque> Created a ticket for romulo 2011-05-12 19:23:17+0000 <antoviaque> ...'s issue: http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/68 2011-05-12 19:24:57+0000 <Netoca> The ticket for the window problem right? 2011-05-12 19:25:03+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-05-12 19:25:10+0000 <antoviaque> to not forget to fix it ;p 2011-05-12 19:27:11+0000 <Netoca> Well, I got to go. I may be able to return here today, but if not, tomorrow for sure 2011-05-12 19:27:35+0000 <Netoca> Nice meeting you 2011-05-12 19:27:47+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-05-12 19:27:59+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for coming - and glad to have met you too! 2011-05-12 19:28:09+0000 <Netoca> If you need halping with testing or even some opinions on the story of the game, you can count on me 2011-05-12 19:28:11+0000 <antoviaque> Looking forward to finally completing a game of Card Stories ;p 2011-05-12 19:28:21+0000 <antoviaque> Would love that : ) 2011-05-12 19:28:31+0000 <Netoca> Yeah! Hope everything works out just fine 2011-05-12 19:28:32+0000 <antoviaque> Many thanks 2011-05-12 19:28:39+0000 <antoviaque> It will! : ) 2011-05-12 19:28:43+0000 <Netoca> No Problem! 2011-05-12 19:28:54+0000 <Netoca> Cya later 2011-05-12 19:29:01+0000 <antoviaque> see you 2011-05-12 19:29:11+0000 Netoca (Netoca) is now offline 2011-05-12 20:01:32+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-05-12 20:01:46+0000 <romulo> im back 2011-05-12 21:24:59+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-05-12 21:56:56+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: here ? 2011-05-12 22:45:38+0000 da (da) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
