Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-05-13.
2011-05-13 03:03:31+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-13 06:47:03+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-13 07:24:42+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-05-13 07:35:45+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2011-05-13 07:36:15+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: here ;p 2011-05-13 07:37:36+0000 da1 (da1) is now online 2011-05-13 07:37:53+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-05-13 07:38:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: is there a list of what I will be working on this sunday ? 2011-05-13 07:39:10+0000 <antoviaque> You mean for the design integration? 2011-05-13 07:40:00+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ^ 2011-05-13 07:40:13+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yes 2011-05-13 07:41:07+0000 <antoviaque> The design tasks are on the tracker: http://cardstori.es/trac/report/10 2011-05-13 07:41:24+0000 <antoviaque> When tartaruga finishes a task, she attributes it to me so I can check 2011-05-13 07:41:43+0000 <antoviaque> I'll review those before passing them to the software task lists 2011-05-13 07:42:22+0000 <antoviaque> So on Sunday you should be able to pick tasks from there 2011-05-13 07:42:26+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good? 2011-05-13 07:42:50+0000 <dachary> reading 2011-05-13 07:45:38+0000 <dachary> ok. 2011-05-13 07:46:23+0000 <antoviaque> There should be everything you had in your list (from different blog posts) + things from playtests + things from the art review by Laurent 2011-05-13 07:46:52+0000 <dachary> excellent 2011-05-13 07:48:14+0000 <antoviaque> Deborah is a bit late on fixing her list of issues, but she said she would keep working on it until she empties the list : ) 2011-05-13 07:48:26+0000 <antoviaque> In any case there is already plenty for one day of work 2011-05-13 07:49:17+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: I know you like living on the bleeding edge, so I thought this would interest you: http://docs.jquery.com/Downloading_jQuery#Current_Release 2011-05-13 07:49:21+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-05-13 07:59:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I upgraded cardstori.es 2011-05-13 07:59:12+0000 <dachary> to the latest git 2011-05-13 07:59:21+0000 <antoviaque> Cool 2011-05-13 07:59:36+0000 <antoviaque> I merged yesterday, and it seemed to went well 2011-05-13 07:59:54+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://bugs.jquery.com/ticket/8763 2011-05-13 08:00:05+0000 <dachary> this is what hit me yesterday ;-) 2011-05-13 08:01:26+0000 <antoviaque> cool, it's fixed : ) 2011-05-13 08:03:32+0000 <antoviaque> Today I'll have a look at all the changes that are left between your repo and mine, and try to make sure it's ready for integration 2011-05-13 08:03:53+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think there is not much left. I'm glad you were able to merge :-) 2011-05-13 08:04:01+0000 <antoviaque> Yep 2011-05-13 08:04:41+0000 <antoviaque> As I said the things you rewrote conflicted with my changes, which is logical - I just hope fixing the conflicts will not create issues on your side when you try to merge my repo again 2011-05-13 08:05:24+0000 <antoviaque> It shouldn't, but never did this with git 2011-05-13 09:05:00+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-13 09:12:35+0000 <romulo> good morning =] 2011-05-13 09:12:43+0000 <antoviaque> hi romulo : ) 2011-05-13 09:13:02+0000 <romulo> man, its cold this time of day :/ 2011-05-13 09:13:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha 2011-05-13 09:13:12+0000 <romulo> feels great :D 2011-05-13 09:13:15+0000 <antoviaque> 25 degrees? ;p 2011-05-13 09:13:17+0000 <romulo> but i wish i could stay at my bed 2011-05-13 09:13:27+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-05-13 09:13:40+0000 <antoviaque> ah, but it also feels good to be up before everyone :p 2011-05-13 09:14:31+0000 <romulo> not when you have a drivers exam 2011-05-13 09:14:32+0000 <romulo> =p 2011-05-13 09:16:44+0000 <antoviaque> ah, yep, that sucks ;p 2011-05-13 09:16:59+0000 <antoviaque> But then you'll be able to drive, so it's cool 2011-05-13 09:17:07+0000 <dachary> romulo: antoviaque: http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/62#comment:5 2011-05-13 09:17:08+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque still doesn't have any drivers license :p 2011-05-13 09:17:09+0000 <dachary> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/62#comment:5 2011-05-13 09:17:28+0000 <romulo> yeah, kinda cool. I dont like driving either. I prefer people driving for me :P 2011-05-13 09:17:56+0000 <romulo> dachary, bizarre bihavior. Will double check when i come back 2011-05-13 09:18:11+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: thanks for the review 2011-05-13 09:18:25+0000 <romulo> behavior* 2011-05-13 09:18:28+0000 <romulo> man, im still sleeping 2011-05-13 09:18:58+0000 <romulo> anyway, will pack things and go to make the exam. Will be back later today 2011-05-13 09:19:03+0000 <romulo> good morning for you guys 2011-05-13 09:19:07+0000 <antoviaque> good luck : ) 2011-05-13 09:21:55+0000 <dachary> :-) 2011-05-13 09:36:25+0000 <dachary> I'm out for the day, take care. 2011-05-13 09:48:52+0000 <da1> first concrete contribution to cardstories, added two bugs in the trac, http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/69 and http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/70 2011-05-13 09:48:55+0000 <da1> yipee 2011-05-13 10:04:53+0000 <antoviaque> da1: cool, thx : ) 2011-05-13 10:06:05+0000 <dachary> da1: good point. It's something antoviaque implemented and that I overlooked. 2011-05-13 10:06:55+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-05-13 10:28:46+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque has finished updating the tests & passed jslint 2011-05-13 10:29:18+0000 <antoviaque> Now looking at modifying the package to add a reverse proxy for the feedback tab 2011-05-13 11:02:29+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque crashed his server trying to upgrade ubuntu to match the build dependencies of card stories 2011-05-13 11:02:44+0000 <antoviaque> now it's my turn da1 ;p 2011-05-13 11:03:14+0000 <da1> you mean ubuntu update ? :) 2011-05-13 11:03:38+0000 <antoviaque> yep - this particular vserver is an ubuntu *bad idea* 2011-05-13 11:03:46+0000 <da1> you should try debian 2011-05-13 11:03:52+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-05-13 11:03:58+0000 <da1> (Loic get out of my body) 2011-05-13 11:21:30+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-05-13 11:41:09+0000 <da1> antoviaque: i'm reading http://farsides.com/wiki/Card_Stories_-_Webservice_Documentation#Game_logic in order to get a first idea. What are the corresponding python files i should look at ? 2011-05-13 11:41:14+0000 <da1> i guess in http://cardstori.es/trac/browser/cardstories 2011-05-13 11:41:46+0000 <da1> but there, i'm not sure which ones should be the first i try to look at 2011-05-13 11:42:09+0000 <antoviaque> ah, my bad - there was links to the files in dachary's posts, but my copy&paste didn't keep the links 2011-05-13 11:43:01+0000 <antoviaque> for the game logic it's the service.py 2011-05-13 11:43:27+0000 <antoviaque> btw if you find stuff that don't match the files let me know, I'll use the opportunity to update the doc 2011-05-13 11:43:37+0000 <da1> ok thanks 2011-05-13 11:43:54+0000 <da1> game.py i leave it aside for now ? 2011-05-13 11:44:24+0000 <antoviaque> refer to it when you see a reference to a game object 2011-05-13 11:44:57+0000 <antoviaque> but the first thing is to understand how the webservice interacts with the client imho 2011-05-13 11:45:14+0000 <da1> ok 2011-05-13 11:52:24+0000 <romulo> im back :D 2011-05-13 11:52:35+0000 <antoviaque> wb : ) 2011-05-13 11:52:43+0000 <romulo> one exam less :P 2011-05-13 11:52:47+0000 <romulo> now i only have street driving test 2011-05-13 11:53:11+0000 <antoviaque> did it went well? 2011-05-13 11:53:25+0000 <romulo> yep, needed 21, scored 24 2011-05-13 11:54:34+0000 <antoviaque> congratz : ) 2011-05-13 11:54:36+0000 <romulo> starting my ubuntu machine to work on the patch 2011-05-13 11:54:53+0000 <romulo> will hook linux mint (or ubuntu) to my old laptop too 2011-05-13 11:55:48+0000 <antoviaque> btw about the test you just completed 2011-05-13 11:55:48+0000 <antoviaque> for farsides ;p 2011-05-13 11:55:48+0000 <antoviaque> Congratz for getting it accepted, first : ) 2011-05-13 11:56:10+0000 <romulo> that message is for me? 2011-05-13 11:56:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep romulo : ) 2011-05-13 11:56:23+0000 <romulo> yay :D 2011-05-13 11:56:38+0000 <romulo> (or like an old friend from monkey island says, yikes!) 2011-05-13 11:56:51+0000 <romulo> i love point and click adventures :P 2011-05-13 11:57:16+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ever used linux mit? 2011-05-13 11:57:18+0000 <romulo> mint* 2011-05-13 11:57:22+0000 <antoviaque> There is some stuff you'll need to improve to work on Card Stories, but you seem to be willing to learn, so what we could do is go ahead, for a one month test 2011-05-13 11:57:28+0000 <antoviaque> nope 2011-05-13 11:57:32+0000 <antoviaque> never tried 2011-05-13 11:57:45+0000 <romulo> hmm i heard good stories about it but never really tried. 2011-05-13 11:58:10+0000 <romulo> and sure, programming is always about evolving, learning and fixing weird bugs 2011-05-13 11:58:28+0000 <romulo> Do you want to point out those issues? 2011-05-13 11:58:54+0000 <antoviaque> The types of issues dachary pointed out in his reviews, for example 2011-05-13 11:59:02+0000 <romulo> ah alright =] 2011-05-13 11:59:31+0000 <antoviaque> Yep, it's really about the technical part : ) 2011-05-13 11:59:38+0000 <antoviaque> During that one month tryout period, you'll have time to learn and get up to speed 2011-05-13 11:59:48+0000 <romulo> i hope so =] 2011-05-13 11:59:50+0000 <romulo> my python is rusty 2011-05-13 11:59:51+0000 <antoviaque> But it will mean that you'll need to invest into this learning 2011-05-13 12:00:18+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i dont see that as a problem ;) 2011-05-13 12:00:24+0000 <antoviaque> ok, cool : ) 2011-05-13 12:01:29+0000 <antoviaque> To help you during that period, you would get some time to get advices from Loic (a bit like the comments you've got in the ticket when Loic looked at your patch) 2011-05-13 12:01:51+0000 <antoviaque> A kind of "training budget" of some sort : ) 2011-05-13 12:02:20+0000 <romulo> cool :D 2011-05-13 12:02:22+0000 <antoviaque> Depending on how many days you'd work during the month, it would be 1/2 day or 1 day of his time, that Farsides would pay for you 2011-05-13 12:02:32+0000 <romulo> (does my smileys bug you? i used them alot) 2011-05-13 12:02:39+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, not at all ;p 2011-05-13 12:02:48+0000 <antoviaque> I love smileys too :) 2011-05-13 12:02:57+0000 <romulo> :) 2011-05-13 12:04:19+0000 <antoviaque> By default during reviews, you would have just a very brief message to tell you it's not ok - then afterwards it's up to you to search by yourself or ask loic, "spending" your time budget with him wisely 2011-05-13 12:04:32+0000 <antoviaque> How does that sound? 2011-05-13 12:05:04+0000 <romulo> Excelent 2011-05-13 12:05:09+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) 2011-05-13 12:05:20+0000 <romulo> It doesn't get harsh and i bother loic only when necessary 2011-05-13 12:05:49+0000 <antoviaque> Then at the end of the month, we'll see where we are and see if we keep going or not 2011-05-13 12:05:52+0000 <antoviaque> yup! 2011-05-13 12:06:03+0000 <romulo> sure 2011-05-13 12:06:09+0000 <antoviaque> Cool : ) 2011-05-13 12:07:00+0000 <antoviaque> How much time per month do you think you can dedicate to the project? 2011-05-13 12:07:46+0000 <romulo> 4/5 hours per day. 2011-05-13 12:08:05+0000 <antoviaque> 5 days/week? 2011-05-13 12:09:17+0000 <romulo> or 6, depending on my schedules (at home) 2011-05-13 12:09:32+0000 <antoviaque> best to bet on the safe side : ) 2011-05-13 12:10:23+0000 <antoviaque> Also remember that the tasks are deliverables - so you need to have some margin in case you need to fix stuff to get it accepted 2011-05-13 12:10:53+0000 <romulo> yeah i know 2011-05-13 12:13:06+0000 <antoviaque> So let's start with 20 tasks of half a day of work per month? 2011-05-13 12:13:28+0000 <romulo> yeah, fine 2011-05-13 12:13:37+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2011-05-13 12:14:21+0000 <romulo> im fixing my patch :P 2011-05-13 12:14:29+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, good luck : ) 2011-05-13 12:15:13+0000 <da1> one more thing romulo . We're currently working on a system where we adapt the daily price to the number of days worked (more days => more visibility for the contributor, so a little less per day). 2011-05-13 12:16:13+0000 <romulo> da1 is dachary? just for checking 2011-05-13 12:16:28+0000 <da1> no, Da is david :) 2011-05-13 12:16:33+0000 <romulo> ahh 2011-05-13 12:16:39+0000 <da1> but not obvious you're right ;) 2011-05-13 12:16:53+0000 <romulo> more days => less per day? 2011-05-13 12:16:55+0000 <da1> I'm checking for the price currently 2011-05-13 12:18:48+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: I think da1 refers to what we discussed: 1 day/month = 290 reais several days/month =230 reais/day 2011-05-13 12:19:02+0000 <da1> yes, i found the extract from the chat : 2011-05-09 23:34:09+0000 <antoviaque> http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&country2=Brazil&city1=Paris&city2=Belo+Horizonte shows that Belo Horizonte is at about half of the price of cost of life, so it would give 250/2 euros = 290 reais for one day, and 200/2= 230 reais/day for a few days in the month 2011-05-13 12:19:38+0000 <romulo> yeah =] 2011-05-13 12:19:45+0000 <da1> so romulo shall we go for 230/day for the coming tasks for the month ? The first one you did was decided at 290 2011-05-13 12:19:50+0000 <da1> ok perfect 2011-05-13 12:20:18+0000 <romulo> Ok, David, are you the manager? Or any other position? 2011-05-13 12:20:26+0000 <romulo> and eve__ is? 2011-05-13 12:20:31+0000 <da1> i'm the co-founder along with Xav 2011-05-13 12:20:46+0000 <da1> eve is a bot :) 2011-05-13 12:21:16+0000 <da1> sorry i did not talk much with you romulo until then, i was busy with boing admin stuff 2011-05-13 12:21:27+0000 <da1> i hope i can correct that in the coming days 2011-05-13 12:21:40+0000 <antoviaque> Ah also one thing I forgot for the first task: at the end of each day, posting a quick recap of what has been done there: http://farsides.com/blog/groups/card-stories/ (cf for example what loic or lincoln posted) 2011-05-13 12:21:42+0000 <da1> boring not boing... 2011-05-13 12:22:21+0000 <romulo> okay =] 2011-05-13 12:22:54+0000 <antoviaque> Any comments about all this? IF there is anything that doesn't seem fair, or that you think is crap, don't hesitate ;p 2011-05-13 12:23:51+0000 <romulo> hehe no its fine. Questions will appear in the process =] 2011-05-13 12:24:19+0000 <antoviaque> Actually the best, if I didn't already mentioned it, is to have a look at the contract for recurring contractors: http://farsides.com/blog/members/blanchard/activity/606/ 2011-05-13 12:24:23+0000 <romulo> I just remembered to ask about the git commits. Should i do as-many-as-i-need commits locally and then just send my branch or something like that? 2011-05-13 12:25:31+0000 <da1> good, don't hesitate to ask. romulo I should be able to answer your doubts as long as they're not technical... Xav and Loic will be able to help you on that side 2011-05-13 12:25:52+0000 <antoviaque> we're still figuring out the best way to do this with git, but so far what we agreed with loic is to publish a branch where changes are put when they are ready to be integrated 2011-05-13 12:26:19+0000 <antoviaque> I host mines on gitorious, you're welcome there too if you want : ) 2011-05-13 12:27:16+0000 <antoviaque> this way when you want something to be reviewed, you indicate which branch to merge, and you can keep doing changes in your other branches 2011-05-13 12:29:21+0000 <antoviaque> makes sense? 2011-05-13 12:29:26+0000 <romulo> yeah 2011-05-13 12:32:09+0000 <romulo> will setup everything over the weekend 2011-05-13 12:32:21+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-05-13 12:32:36+0000 <romulo> im still trampling myself (school + home duties) 2011-05-13 12:32:57+0000 <antoviaque> so when do you want to start? Monday? 2011-05-13 12:33:08+0000 <romulo> yeah 2011-05-13 12:33:17+0000 <romulo> well im still going to finish the task today 2011-05-13 12:33:21+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-05-13 12:33:24+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-05-13 12:33:45+0000 <romulo> but yeah, monday is fine. I will also participate the sunday meeting 2011-05-13 12:35:22+0000 <antoviaque> Just one thing - because some people work on the week-end, my own week end will be on Monday/Tuesday from now on I think, so we'll need to see how we handle that. But for next week I'll be there to decide on the tasks - I may just not be in the chat the whole day like the other days 2011-05-13 12:35:58+0000 <romulo> Well, we can still exchange emails, can't we? 2011-05-13 12:36:41+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque trying to spend some time away from a keyboard ;p 2011-05-13 12:37:15+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, very good, you need to relax, travel and eat chinese food sometime 2011-05-13 12:38:06+0000 <da1> travel ? come on, he's just back from brazil :) 2011-05-13 12:38:29+0000 <da1> antoviaque: from http://farsides.com/wiki/Card_Stories_-_Webservice_Documentation#Game_logic, i read "The CardstoriesPlayer class is simple minded and derived from the pollable class", can you help me on the meaning of pollable class ? 2011-05-13 12:38:39+0000 <romulo> I would face it as a Duty, i hate this country :X 2011-05-13 12:38:51+0000 <da1> haha 2011-05-13 12:39:24+0000 <da1> i think antoviaque will disagree, since he's back in france, he keeps talking to me about brazil 2011-05-13 12:39:43+0000 <romulo> I want to go to France someday =P 2011-05-13 12:40:41+0000 <da1> i want to go to Brazil someday 2011-05-13 12:42:06+0000 <romulo> hahaha 2011-05-13 12:42:33+0000 <antoviaque> eating time - bbl : ) 2011-05-13 12:42:42+0000 <da1> me too :) 2011-05-13 12:42:54+0000 <romulo> ok, i have a question when you guys come back 2011-05-13 13:34:53+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, will send the question later today, gotta fix the cable connection around here, its failing :/ 2011-05-13 13:34:55+0000 <romulo> bbs 2011-05-13 13:42:06+0000 <antoviaque> re 2011-05-13 13:53:59+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-05-13 14:50:47+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: for exporting images, you may want to read https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=aitoawmb55ujnkofzptgjfzltpi3tgcbtgb3gd8 2011-05-13 14:50:55+0000 <antoviaque> ooops 2011-05-13 14:50:59+0000 <antoviaque> http://rwillustrator.blogspot.com/2010/08/when-pixels-snap-antialiasing-in.html 2011-05-13 14:51:23+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: \o/ 2011-05-13 14:51:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-05-13 15:47:18+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I updated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loïc_Dachary to mention cardstories 2011-05-13 15:47:32+0000 <dachary> let me know if you have any remarks 2011-05-13 15:48:35+0000 <antoviaque> Cool : ) 2011-05-13 15:49:01+0000 <antoviaque> And the link to the farsides buddypress will help with referencement ;p 2011-05-13 15:50:56+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-05-13 17:39:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey guys, what do you think of this feeling for the game? :) http://farsides.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/10/1305308338-Screenshot2011-05-13at7.35.38PM.png 2011-05-13 17:40:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I thought about using as a background, different cuts of cards 2011-05-13 17:40:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> always with a detail 2011-05-13 17:40:13+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: very kewl :D 2011-05-13 17:40:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but huge on the bkg 2011-05-13 17:40:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-05-13 17:40:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and use the game static 2011-05-13 17:40:30+0000 <antoviaque> the green color looks very fluo on my screen though 2011-05-13 17:40:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because it looks like a card 2011-05-13 17:40:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its because its a printscreen, so its not the final result for colors 2011-05-13 17:40:59+0000 <antoviaque> And I would also add a Farsides logo somewhere :p 2011-05-13 17:41:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> Ah its true. 2011-05-13 17:41:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok 2011-05-13 17:41:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: what do you think? http://farsides.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/10/1305308338-Screenshot2011-05-13at7.35.38PM.png 2011-05-13 17:41:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> da: what do you think? :P http://farsides.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/group-documents/10/1305308338-Screenshot2011-05-13at7.35.38PM.png 2011-05-13 17:41:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hein hein hein! ahhaahahahah 2011-05-13 17:41:56+0000 <antoviaque> pain is the *ss :p 2011-05-13 17:42:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm workiiing 2011-05-13 17:42:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahah 2011-05-13 17:42:11+0000 <antoviaque> tssk tssk 2011-05-13 17:42:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and can we do random pictures, so the person that is playing always sees a diferent picture when he enters the game, on the background? 2011-05-13 17:43:26+0000 <antoviaque> it's a feature, so it requires development, but everything is possible :p 2011-05-13 17:43:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hurray! 2011-05-13 17:43:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's yes for me. 2011-05-13 17:43:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok, I'm going back to work. 2011-05-13 17:43:41+0000 <antoviaque> eh, no no no no no 2011-05-13 17:43:44+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha 2011-05-13 17:50:16+0000 <antoviaque> Cool, I finished all my tickets :p 2011-05-13 17:51:35+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: the changes are ready for review :D https://gitorious.org/~antoviaque/cardstories/antoviaques-cardstories/commits/ready => I will keep this repo at the latest "reviewable/mergeable" state : ) 2011-05-13 17:51:51+0000 <dachary> \o/ 2011-05-13 17:52:02+0000 <dachary> I'll take a look later today 2011-05-13 17:53:32+0000 <antoviaque> kewl, thanks :D 2011-05-13 17:53:58+0000 <antoviaque> I hope there isn't too many mistakes 2011-05-13 17:54:23+0000 <dachary> I will be without mercy in my review 2011-05-13 17:54:27+0000 * dachary sadistic 2011-05-13 17:54:29+0000 <antoviaque> Feels good to have the assigned tickets list empty, and the tests (hopefully) complete and running ;p 2011-05-13 17:54:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha 2011-05-13 17:57:01+0000 Netoca (Netoca) is now online 2011-05-13 17:57:37+0000 <Netoca> hello everyone =) 2011-05-13 17:57:45+0000 <antoviaque> hi Netoca : ) 2011-05-13 17:58:22+0000 <Netoca> antoviaque, how are you? 2011-05-13 17:58:41+0000 <antoviaque> Very well - just finished my list of tickets, I feel better ;p 2011-05-13 17:58:52+0000 <antoviaque> And you? 2011-05-13 17:59:06+0000 <Netoca> I'm fine too 2011-05-13 17:59:44+0000 <Netoca> looking into a few things here. Trying to apply for a job 2011-05-13 18:00:49+0000 <antoviaque> Good luck! For a storyteller position? 2011-05-13 18:01:28+0000 <Netoca> No, it's for the journalism profession 2011-05-13 18:01:40+0000 <Netoca> I graduated recently but so far i got nothing 2011-05-13 18:02:45+0000 <Netoca> Let's hope this time things works =) 2011-05-13 18:02:59+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, it's a tough area - I've friends who tried, they had a hard time! 2011-05-13 18:04:16+0000 <Netoca> Yeah 2011-05-13 18:04:45+0000 <Netoca> I'm going to leave for a moment, be right back 2011-05-13 18:04:52+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-05-13 18:08:43+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: if you want to learn CSS... It's mostly a textual tutorial, but there is an introductory video, and I still think you should give a try to pure text editing of HTML/CSS (rather than using something like dreamweaver), it will be a little more tough but you'll get a much better understanding of CSS this way: http://www.csstutorial.net/ 2011-05-13 18:10:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you! 2011-05-13 18:11:22+0000 <Netoca> back 2011-05-13 18:11:52+0000 <Netoca> tartarugafeliz, I heard you are the artist for the Card Stories Game 2011-05-13 18:12:04+0000 <Netoca> I really liked the comic way of the pics 2011-05-13 18:12:08+0000 <Netoca> Congratulations! 2011-05-13 18:12:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hi netoca, thank you! 2011-05-13 18:39:57+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: the current owner invitation view for your design - http://cardstories.antoviaque.org:4923/static/?skin=invitation_owner 2011-05-13 18:58:48+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-05-13 18:59:23+0000 <romulo> hi there, im back 2011-05-13 18:59:30+0000 <antoviaque> wb 2011-05-13 18:59:36+0000 <romulo> ty 2011-05-13 18:59:41+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-05-13 18:59:41+0000 <romulo> had to solve my internet problems :/ 2011-05-13 18:59:42+0000 <romulo> changing isp 2011-05-13 19:00:04+0000 <antoviaque> ah, that would be a nightmare in France : ) 2011-05-13 19:00:37+0000 <antoviaque> Probably weeks with connexion, trying to call crappy customer service ;p 2011-05-13 19:00:45+0000 <antoviaque> s/with/without/ 2011-05-13 19:01:37+0000 <romulo> argh :/ 2011-05-13 19:01:39+0000 <romulo> sorry to hear 2011-05-13 19:01:49+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-05-13 19:06:17+0000 <romulo> messing with git now 2011-05-13 19:08:59+0000 <romulo> oh 2011-05-13 19:09:06+0000 <romulo> my patch is already on master 2011-05-13 19:09:36+0000 <romulo> good time to create my gitorious account 2011-05-13 19:11:45+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: 2011-05-13 19:11:47+0000 <dachary> http://pastebin.com/6yg6h0n2 2011-05-13 19:12:26+0000 <dachary> this is the output of git log origin/master..antoviaque/master 2011-05-13 19:12:40+0000 <dachary> with 2011-05-13 19:12:41+0000 <dachary> antoviaque git://gitorious.org/~antoviaque/cardstories/antoviaques-cardstories.git 2011-05-13 19:12:42+0000 <dachary> and 2011-05-13 19:12:48+0000 <dachary> origin ssh://[email protected]/var/www/cardstories.git 2011-05-13 19:13:13+0000 <dachary> trying with ready 2011-05-13 19:13:34+0000 <dachary> http://pastebin.com/zB6DfCSt 2011-05-13 19:13:38+0000 <dachary> still a lot 2011-05-13 19:13:55+0000 <dachary> I don't think you intended that many changeset 2011-05-13 19:20:53+0000 <dachary> the ready branch should contain clean and well identified changesets. For instance, when you look at the branch graph of the master on cardstori.es you see : 2011-05-13 19:20:54+0000 <dachary> http://pastebin.com/b7H9A7kC 2011-05-13 19:21:51+0000 <dachary> if you take a look at the ready branch of your git repository, there are many derivations 2011-05-13 19:21:53+0000 <dachary> http://pastebin.com/VMGFLTGf 2011-05-13 19:22:05+0000 <dachary> if I was to pull from it, I would import most of it 2011-05-13 19:22:59+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, to create a gitorious repo do i need to create a project (cardstories) there? 2011-05-13 19:23:05+0000 <romulo> i never used it, mind not my ignorance 2011-05-13 19:23:41+0000 <dachary> romulo: you should just fork the master branch of https://gitorious.org/cardstories 2011-05-13 19:23:50+0000 <dachary> s/fork/clone/ 2011-05-13 19:24:21+0000 <romulo> cool 2011-05-13 19:28:11+0000 <romulo> dachary, my changes are in cardstori.es branch but not on gitorious - why ? 2011-05-13 19:28:17+0000 <romulo> (yesterday's patch) 2011-05-13 19:29:09+0000 <dachary> romulo: I don't know. I suppose antoviaque would have to pull them. 2011-05-13 19:29:19+0000 <romulo> i see 2011-05-13 19:29:45+0000 <dachary> romulo: maybe you have a way to specify where you want to pull from 2011-05-13 19:29:59+0000 <romulo> maybe, let me see 2011-05-13 19:30:17+0000 <dachary> it says Mirror of http://cardstori.es/cardstories.git 2011-05-13 19:30:22+0000 <dachary> on https://gitorious.org/cardstories 2011-05-13 19:32:31+0000 <dachary> I don't see that it's possible 2011-05-13 19:33:39+0000 <dachary> ah 2011-05-13 19:33:44+0000 <dachary> Mirror of http://cardstori.es/cardstories.git 2011-05-13 19:33:48+0000 <dachary> is actually the description 2011-05-13 19:34:49+0000 <dachary> romulo: there does not seem to be an automatic update 2011-05-13 19:36:10+0000 <dachary> romulo: if you want these changes you can pull them into your clone directly from cardstori.es, it won't hurt 2011-05-13 19:38:00+0000 <romulo> hmm 2011-05-13 19:38:06+0000 <romulo> dachary, any idea how (easy way) 2011-05-13 19:45:12+0000 <romulo> will figure out :P 2011-05-13 19:45:58+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, will you update your gitorious to match cardstori.es or should i update my local copy separated? 2011-05-13 19:51:21+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-05-13 20:10:14+0000 <romulo> will be back later, cya guys 2011-05-13 20:10:26+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i will write on the blog on the weekend, and write you an email about the blog 2011-05-13 20:10:41+0000 <romulo> good weekend =] 2011-05-13 20:15:56+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: reading the backlog 2011-05-13 20:16:09+0000 <antoviaque> Hmm, I'm not sure I get it 2011-05-13 20:16:38+0000 <antoviaque> http://pastebin.com/6yg6h0n2 & http://pastebin.com/zB6DfCSt show Unknown Paste ID 2011-05-13 20:17:49+0000 <antoviaque> what do you mean by derivations ? 2011-05-13 20:17:55+0000 <antoviaque> the merges from your branch? 2011-05-13 20:37:39+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: if you hg log --graph your ready branch you will see that it's quite hairy 2011-05-13 20:37:57+0000 <dachary> if you hg log --graph the master of cardstori.es you will see very few derivations 2011-05-13 20:38:20+0000 <dachary> if I pull from your repository it will also import the derivations 2011-05-13 20:39:05+0000 <antoviaque> checking 2011-05-13 20:41:27+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: You mean the different levels of indentations, corresponding to the merges ? 2011-05-13 20:41:51+0000 <dachary> yes 2011-05-13 20:42:02+0000 <dachary> gitk shows that in a graphical way if you prefer 2011-05-13 20:44:27+0000 <dachary> I'm not sure how contributions should be handled with git. Since you've been working on a few different patches, maybe each of them should be in a separate branch. But I have no clue really. 2011-05-13 20:45:19+0000 <antoviaque> Hmmm 2011-05-13 20:45:26+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque scratches his head 2011-05-13 20:45:26+0000 <dachary> I think the easiest way out would be for me to cherry pick your changes. If you can let me know the list of changeset are supposed to implement a given feature. 2011-05-13 20:45:50+0000 <dachary> And when I'm done integrating your changes, you can reset your branch and start fresh. 2011-05-13 20:48:39+0000 <antoviaque> Maybe it's stupid, but I don't understand what would go wrong if this was merged into your branch 2011-05-13 20:49:01+0000 <dachary> from the top of my head there are a) complete board being displayed to the owner during the voting phase + complete state rework, b) feedback implementation, c) ... 2011-05-13 20:50:47+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I don't know either. And it's difficult to figure out because there are many changesets and branches. And reading the global diff merges many unrelated changes. 2011-05-13 20:51:32+0000 * dachary checking again to make sure he is not too picky 2011-05-13 20:51:47+0000 <antoviaque> Yes, it's linked to the fact that I was working with several changes 2011-05-13 20:52:37+0000 <dachary> it's a 3000 lines diff 2011-05-13 20:55:19+0000 <dachary> it's going to be quite difficult to review 2011-05-13 20:55:42+0000 <antoviaque> hmm 2011-05-13 20:55:57+0000 <dachary> I can do it but it will take me a few hours. 2011-05-13 20:55:59+0000 <antoviaque> let me try something 2011-05-13 20:57:01+0000 <dachary> half of the lines are from new files (validate + contactable) 2011-05-13 20:57:21+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2011-05-13 20:58:28+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's not too bad. I will however cherry pick the changes to isolate them. 2011-05-13 20:58:51+0000 <antoviaque> Let me see if I can do that part from gitorious 2011-05-13 20:59:02+0000 <dachary> there is no sense in having +20 changeset . That was scaring me more than it should. 2011-05-13 20:59:06+0000 <antoviaque> If it's the case it would give me a better way to submit changesets 2011-05-13 20:59:13+0000 <dachary> bbl (social) 2011-05-13 21:00:44+0000 <dachary> I think this is the case when you want to "rebase" but I have no experience in the 2011-05-13 21:00:49+0000 <dachary> (back to social life for real) 2011-05-13 21:01:04+0000 <antoviaque> : ) 2011-05-13 21:01:07+0000 <antoviaque> thx for the comments 2011-05-13 21:54:57+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, neither gitorious or github allow to select a set of changes for a merge request 2011-05-13 21:55:22+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: 2011-05-13 21:55:40+0000 <antoviaque> I only see the option of one branch per ticket, but it's a bit overkill no? 2011-05-13 21:55:41+0000 <dachary> I will cherry pick your work on sunday, no worries 2011-05-13 21:56:05+0000 <antoviaque> Yep, but I'd like to submit something clean 2011-05-13 21:56:09+0000 <dachary> we will do better the next time around 2011-05-13 21:56:20+0000 <dachary> there is no much gain in cleaning up 2011-05-13 21:56:29+0000 <dachary> and the next time it will be clean because we've learnt 2011-05-13 21:57:06+0000 <antoviaque> the thing is - I'm not sure how to avoid this again 2011-05-13 21:57:16+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: when I load antoviaques-cardstories/static/test/index.html it's all green and that makes me confident ;-) 2011-05-13 21:57:24+0000 <antoviaque> ahah : ) 2011-05-13 21:58:50+0000 <dachary> if you work in a branch (work) and you push the changeset for a given ticket to the ready branch when you're sure it's ok, the ready change will always be ready for anyone to pull from 2011-05-13 22:00:22+0000 <dachary> if a ticket only requires 1 changeset, you don't need a branch for it and it won't require more than a day of your time 2011-05-13 22:00:57+0000 <dachary> if it does require more than a day of your time or a number of changeset before being complete, it probably deserves a branch while you're working on it 2011-05-13 22:01:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think it makes sense but I don't have an actual experience and it may be different when working for real 2011-05-13 22:04:41+0000 <dachary> night
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