Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-05-16.


2011-05-16 00:00:10+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-16 00:00:13+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping
2011-05-16 00:40:51+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-16 03:30:50+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-05-16 07:15:35+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-16 07:15:57+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: paf
2011-05-16 07:43:51+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-16 08:40:14+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: true - some of the screenshots 
are not the right size
2011-05-16 08:40:30+0000 <antoviaque> I think it's because it's a screenshot 
and not an export
2011-05-16 08:40:51+0000 <dachary> hey
2011-05-16 08:40:52+0000 <antoviaque> I'll ask Deborah to redo those
2011-05-16 08:40:56+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2011-05-16 08:41:01+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-05-16 08:41:47+0000 <antoviaque> But it will be tomorrow, because today is 
shageek and I'm already angering my god typing on this keyboard : )
2011-05-16 08:46:35+0000 <antoviaque> actually it seems to be all of them - I 
went through the tickets and most, if not all, are the wrong size
2011-05-16 09:07:47+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-05-16 09:07:59+0000 <dachary> not shageek shagging is not very geek
2011-05-16 09:08:03+0000 <dachary> shabbeek !
2011-05-16 09:08:14+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-05-16 09:31:18+0000 <antoviaque> ahahha
2011-05-16 09:31:32+0000 <antoviaque> I like shageek :p
2011-05-16 09:35:59+0000 <dachary> I bet you do.
2011-05-16 09:51:32+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-16 10:14:48+0000 rogerio (rogerio) is now online
2011-05-16 10:24:09+0000 <rogerio> Hi
2011-05-16 10:24:10+0000 <rogerio> Hello
2011-05-16 10:24:47+0000 <rogerio> are somebody there?
2011-05-16 10:38:36+0000 <antoviaque> hi rogerio : )
2011-05-16 10:38:57+0000 <antoviaque> how are you?
2011-05-16 10:44:26+0000 <rogerio> Hi Xavier
2011-05-16 10:44:49+0000 <rogerio> I sent you an email right now
2011-05-16 10:44:58+0000 <rogerio> sorry about the last days
2011-05-16 10:45:08+0000 <rogerio> I had too much problems
2011-05-16 10:45:11+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is opening his mailer
2011-05-16 10:45:14+0000 <antoviaque> what happened?
2011-05-16 10:45:16+0000 <rogerio> but now I'm fine
2011-05-16 10:45:35+0000 <rogerio> I explained a little bit on e-mail
2011-05-16 10:45:55+0000 <antoviaque> ok - my mailer is retreiving the last 
emails - I'll read
2011-05-16 10:46:04+0000 <rogerio> great
2011-05-16 10:46:12+0000 <rogerio> so
2011-05-16 10:46:30+0000 <rogerio> are you still needing help on the project?
2011-05-16 10:46:41+0000 <antoviaque> yup, we definitely do : )
2011-05-16 10:47:02+0000 <rogerio> one thing I would like to say is that I am 
quitting my current job
2011-05-16 10:47:34+0000 <rogerio> at least I want to do that
2011-05-16 10:47:49+0000 <antoviaque> oh - the problem were with your job? 
(still fetching emails ;p )
2011-05-16 10:48:15+0000 <antoviaque> We can definitely do the test task
2011-05-16 10:48:29+0000 <antoviaque> When would be a good time for you to do 
it?
2011-05-16 10:48:37+0000 <rogerio> work with asp and Microsoft things, is not 
pleaseant to me
2011-05-16 10:48:51+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, I can imagine ;p
2011-05-16 10:49:46+0000 <antoviaque> Well for Card Stories, it's Python+JS - 
only standards and free software :p 
2011-05-16 10:49:50+0000 <rogerio> and I have too many bureucratic things to do 
now, they changed the teams, and I have to do work like "call center"
2011-05-16 10:50:06+0000 <antoviaque> Blah, that sucks
2011-05-16 10:50:06+0000 <rogerio> ok, good
2011-05-16 10:50:07+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-05-16 10:50:12+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-05-16 10:50:15+0000 <antoviaque> Btw, did I gave you links to read a bit 
about it and the code?
2011-05-16 10:50:32+0000 <rogerio> no, you don't
2011-05-16 10:50:38+0000 <antoviaque> let me see
2011-05-16 10:51:02+0000 <antoviaque> there is the trac: 
http://cardstori.es/trac/wiki
2011-05-16 10:51:10+0000 <rogerio> cool
2011-05-16 10:51:13+0000 <antoviaque> The game URL http://cardstori.es
2011-05-16 10:51:40+0000 <antoviaque> the dev doc can be helpful too 
http://farsides.com/wiki/Card_Stories_-_Developer_Documentation
2011-05-16 10:51:59+0000 <antoviaque> And you'll find the git repo on the trac 
home to checkout the code 
2011-05-16 10:52:32+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-16 10:52:48+0000 <rogerio> so, there is a test task for me?
2011-05-16 10:53:00+0000 <antoviaque> For the tasks themselves you can have a 
look at http://cardstori.es/trac/report/9
2011-05-16 10:53:33+0000 <antoviaque> The current priority being to improve the 
ease of use/understanding (Accessibility) of the game, you'll have to pick one 
that fits this priority : )
2011-05-16 10:53:37+0000 <rogerio> there is some tickets there
2011-05-16 10:53:59+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, try to pick one or several tasks 
that would fit one day of work
2011-05-16 10:54:07+0000 <antoviaque> Best to start small
2011-05-16 10:54:23+0000 <antoviaque> Since there is the learning curve 
overhaed when you start
2011-05-16 10:54:26+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-16 10:54:35+0000 <antoviaque> Then when would you want to do this?
2011-05-16 10:54:57+0000 <rogerio> any time, but
2011-05-16 10:55:16+0000 <rogerio> I have to work 8 hours a day for my current 
job
2011-05-16 10:55:19+0000 <antoviaque> We work with deliverables, so it's 
flexible, but it's best if you can concentrate the time you're working on it at 
a time where there are people around in the chat
2011-05-16 10:55:23+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-05-16 10:55:28+0000 <rogerio> and pay about 2 or 3 hours a day
2011-05-16 10:55:46+0000 <antoviaque> Yep, that's why I ask
2011-05-16 10:56:31+0000 <rogerio> so, I can maybe dedicate 4hrs a day
2011-05-16 10:56:40+0000 <rogerio> on this project
2011-05-16 10:56:58+0000 <antoviaque> You'll burn out, no? 8+4 hours every day?
2011-05-16 10:57:21+0000 <rogerio> yes, I know
2011-05-16 10:57:22+0000 <antoviaque> btw since you're quitting your job, if 
the test task goes well, are you considering working full time for Farsides?
2011-05-16 10:57:51+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-16 10:57:59+0000 <rogerio> full time
2011-05-16 10:58:03+0000 <antoviaque> ok - that would be easier then : )
2011-05-16 10:58:21+0000 <antoviaque> Because 12h a day is a lot : )
2011-05-16 10:58:21+0000 <rogerio> but I need to be sure about that
2011-05-16 10:59:01+0000 <antoviaque> of course - that's why the test is there, 
to allow to see how it goes, for you and for the rest of the team in Farsides
2011-05-16 10:59:04+0000 <rogerio> yes, despite I am used to to work more than 
12hrs a day, ehehhehe
2011-05-16 10:59:20+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, ok then ;p
2011-05-16 10:59:44+0000 <rogerio> about the test task
2011-05-16 10:59:53+0000 <rogerio> I will try to do this tonight
2011-05-16 11:00:08+0000 <antoviaque> ok
2011-05-16 11:00:17+0000 <antoviaque> then two things to discuss:
2011-05-16 11:00:23+0000 <antoviaque> 1) chosing the task itself
2011-05-16 11:00:30+0000 <antoviaque> 2) agreeing on a price
2011-05-16 11:00:35+0000 <rogerio> so, may i pick one of those tickects and 
try, am I correct?
2011-05-16 11:00:44+0000 <antoviaque> Which task would you like to do?
2011-05-16 11:00:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep, but we need to agree on which task 
it is
2011-05-16 11:01:11+0000 <antoviaque> especially if it fits the priority I was 
describing above
2011-05-16 11:01:25+0000 <antoviaque> and also to make sure you don't try 
something too hard to start with
2011-05-16 11:01:27+0000 <rogerio> I need to make a choice yet, I didn't read 
yet
2011-05-16 11:01:42+0000 <rogerio> I understand
2011-05-16 11:01:56+0000 <rogerio> maybe you could suggest me some
2011-05-16 11:02:05+0000 <antoviaque> hmm
2011-05-16 11:02:08+0000 <antoviaque> let me have a look
2011-05-16 11:03:52+0000 <rogerio> for example the "Ticket #12"
2011-05-16 11:04:14+0000 <rogerio> I don't know, I don't know the application 
yet
2011-05-16 11:04:30+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that one is probably too tricky to 
start
2011-05-16 11:05:20+0000 <rogerio> hmm
2011-05-16 11:05:21+0000 <antoviaque> maybe that one: 
http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/61
2011-05-16 11:05:45+0000 <antoviaque> It shouldn't be too hard, and will get 
you to know the client code, where most of the work happen today
2011-05-16 11:06:08+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-16 11:06:30+0000 <antoviaque> You played a game of Card Stories already 
right?
2011-05-16 11:06:35+0000 <rogerio> so, I will work on that tonight
2011-05-16 11:06:43+0000 <antoviaque> Do you see what the task is about?
2011-05-16 11:07:05+0000 <antoviaque> Because tonight I'll probably be 
sleeping, so I won't be around to answer questions
2011-05-16 11:07:11+0000 <rogerio> no, I just open the URL you gave me, but I 
had no chance to play yet, sorry
2011-05-16 11:07:12+0000 <antoviaque> There may be rogerio online though
2011-05-16 11:07:22+0000 <antoviaque> No worries
2011-05-16 11:07:33+0000 <rogerio> Yes, I know that
2011-05-16 11:07:43+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, sorry
2011-05-16 11:07:56+0000 <rogerio> I'll try to do this tonight, because is the 
only time I have to do
2011-05-16 11:08:05+0000 <antoviaque> I meant romulo - he will probably take on 
a task today
2011-05-16 11:08:13+0000 <rogerio> good
2011-05-16 11:08:21+0000 <rogerio> Xavier
2011-05-16 11:08:26+0000 <antoviaque> yep?
2011-05-16 11:08:39+0000 <rogerio> I would to ask you something
2011-05-16 11:08:39+0000 <antoviaque> Also - what about the price?
2011-05-16 11:08:43+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2011-05-16 11:09:05+0000 <rogerio> In case the things going right
2011-05-16 11:09:15+0000 <rogerio> and I work for you full time
2011-05-16 11:10:19+0000 <rogerio> I want to know about guaratee
2011-05-16 11:10:56+0000 <rogerio> I will always have work to do?
2011-05-16 11:10:58+0000 <antoviaque> Guarantee? You mean guarantee to work for 
a certain amount of time?
2011-05-16 11:11:02+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-05-16 11:11:07+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-16 11:11:18+0000 <antoviaque> there is actually a contract, you can 
have all the details there yep
2011-05-16 11:11:22+0000 <antoviaque> let me find the url
2011-05-16 11:11:32+0000 <rogerio> ohh, great
2011-05-16 11:12:55+0000 <antoviaque> here: 
http://farsides.com/blog/members/blanchard/activity/544/
2011-05-16 11:13:08+0000 <antoviaque> as you can see we are finalizing it
2011-05-16 11:13:28+0000 <antoviaque> if you have any questions/remarks about 
it, don't hesitate
2011-05-16 11:14:09+0000 <rogerio> "Here is the english version of the contract.
2011-05-16 11:14:09+0000 <rogerio> I’ll proofread and if it’s ok, I’ll 
send a specific contract to each recurring contractor of the project.
2011-05-16 11:14:09+0000 <rogerio> Please have a look and let me know if it 
looks good to you.
2011-05-16 11:14:09+0000 <rogerio> I’ll also post this in the HR group, it 
makes more sense to have it and discuss it over there.
2011-05-16 11:14:09+0000 <rogerio> "
2011-05-16 11:14:27+0000 <antoviaque> the link to the document is right above
2011-05-16 11:14:40+0000 <antoviaque> "uploaded the file: contract recurring 
contractor – english"
2011-05-16 11:14:54+0000 <rogerio> oh, great
2011-05-16 11:14:55+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-05-16 11:15:00+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-05-16 11:15:00+0000 <rogerio> thanks Xavier
2011-05-16 11:15:04+0000 <antoviaque> yw
2011-05-16 11:15:13+0000 <rogerio> now, about the price
2011-05-16 11:15:17+0000 <rogerio> heheheh
2011-05-16 11:15:36+0000 <antoviaque> important subject yep : )
2011-05-16 11:15:43+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-05-16 11:17:27+0000 <antoviaque> So, how much do you take for a one-day 
deliverable?
2011-05-16 11:18:44+0000 <rogerio> Are you asking me how much I charge per day?
2011-05-16 11:18:53+0000 <antoviaque> yes
2011-05-16 11:19:15+0000 <rogerio> My last work they paid me U$ 25 per hour
2011-05-16 11:19:44+0000 <rogerio> it was the The Lab Company in California
2011-05-16 11:19:48+0000 <antoviaque> but keep in mind that it is actually 
deliverables - so you estimate the time it takes, but the proper delivery is 
what marks the task(s) as complete
2011-05-16 11:19:54+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, let me calculate a bit
2011-05-16 11:20:42+0000 <rogerio> here in Brasil, for the Ministério da 
Cultura, my charge was R$ 40,00 per hours (in reais)
2011-05-16 11:21:05+0000 <antoviaque> So about the same in both cases
2011-05-16 11:21:14+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-16 11:21:15+0000 <antoviaque> ~320 reais/ day
2011-05-16 11:21:19+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-16 11:21:43+0000 <antoviaque> let me check something
2011-05-16 11:21:45+0000 <rogerio> but, I worked 4 hours a day
2011-05-16 11:21:58+0000 <rogerio> it was 180 per day
2011-05-16 11:22:13+0000 <rogerio> here in brazil I used to work weekends
2011-05-16 11:23:02+0000 <antoviaque> The way we work to check prices is that 
we adjust it to the cost of life difference - 
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=France&country2=Brazil&city1=Paris&city2=Belo+Horizonte
2011-05-16 11:23:37+0000 <antoviaque> And then we compare to the French price - 
which is around 250 euros/day
2011-05-16 11:23:49+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-16 11:24:23+0000 <antoviaque> so here 250 euros translates into 290 
reais/day
2011-05-16 11:24:54+0000 <antoviaque> so you're slightly more expensive than 
our base price, but it's ok I think
2011-05-16 11:24:54+0000 <rogerio> 290?
2011-05-16 11:25:23+0000 <antoviaque> we can start on the same price you were 
paid if you want, at 325 reais/day
2011-05-16 11:25:54+0000 <rogerio> for me it's ok, if you want to pay 300/day
2011-05-16 11:25:56+0000 <antoviaque> and then if you go full time, you could 
make a price if it's ok with you
2011-05-16 11:26:26+0000 <antoviaque> we can say 325 for the test task, and 
then 300/day afterwards?
2011-05-16 11:26:59+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-16 11:27:31+0000 <antoviaque> perfect
2011-05-16 11:27:37+0000 <antoviaque> so all good then : )
2011-05-16 11:27:47+0000 <antoviaque> I'll have to run to have lunch
2011-05-16 11:28:02+0000 <rogerio> Xavier, I really don't like to work on 
Cemig, I want to develop, write code
2011-05-16 11:28:03+0000 <antoviaque> But I'll let you have a look at the code 
and the task tonight
2011-05-16 11:28:18+0000 <rogerio> so I prefer work with you
2011-05-16 11:28:21+0000 <antoviaque> and if you have question, either ask on 
the chat if someone is around, or we can discuss your questions tomorrow
2011-05-16 11:28:31+0000 <rogerio> ok, thaks Xavier
2011-05-16 11:28:34+0000 <antoviaque> I'm glad to hear it : )
2011-05-16 11:28:34+0000 <rogerio> thanks
2011-05-16 11:28:45+0000 <antoviaque> I hope it goes well - would be good to 
have you around!
2011-05-16 11:28:52+0000 <rogerio> so, have a good lunch
2011-05-16 11:28:56+0000 <antoviaque> bbl - lunch time : )
2011-05-16 11:29:00+0000 <antoviaque> thanks!
2011-05-16 11:29:03+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-05-16 11:29:05+0000 <rogerio> bye
2011-05-16 11:32:12+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-16 11:32:17+0000 <romulo> good morning
2011-05-16 11:32:17+0000 <romulo> =]
2011-05-16 11:38:16+0000 <dachary> \o/
2011-05-16 11:40:46+0000 <romulo> hey there dachary how are you?
2011-05-16 11:40:52+0000 <romulo> good start of weekend for you =]
2011-05-16 11:43:03+0000 <romulo> checking bug list to see what im working on 
today
2011-05-16 11:43:27+0000 <romulo> probably #64 or #68
2011-05-16 11:47:36+0000 <romulo> brb
2011-05-16 11:54:28+0000 <dachary> :-)
2011-05-16 11:54:36+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ^
2011-05-16 12:04:35+0000 <romulo> im back
2011-05-16 12:09:40+0000 <romulo> dachary, reading your blog posts
2011-05-16 12:25:13+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-05-16 12:28:03+0000 <romulo> dachary, taking forever to clone 
http://cardstori.es/cardstories.git
2011-05-16 12:28:50+0000 <romulo> dachary, let me see if i understood it 
correctly. By default, we run the webserver in top of twisted. For debugging 
(or performance tests), sometimes you use nginx. The web server then injects 
the jQuery calls (with JSON) on the handle and it passes everything to other 
python scripts. Also the clients running on top of jQuery access $.cardstories 
and use the methods from there. Is this right?
2011-05-16 12:29:42+0000 <dachary> Yes.
2011-05-16 12:30:20+0000 <romulo> Good =]
2011-05-16 12:30:27+0000 <romulo> im going to look for the acents bug today
2011-05-16 12:30:34+0000 <romulo> as soon as i can clone the repository and 
reproduce it
2011-05-16 12:45:50+0000 <romulo> dachary, should i use nginx for debugging?
2011-05-16 12:55:13+0000 <dachary> romulo: you don't need nginx, no
2011-05-16 12:55:20+0000 <romulo> ok
2011-05-16 12:55:33+0000 <dachary> I suggest you try directly from the server
2011-05-16 12:55:41+0000 <romulo> You told me backtraces happen in the console 
right?
2011-05-16 12:55:57+0000 <dachary> if you use the line from README.txt that 
will be http://localhost:5000/
2011-05-16 12:56:05+0000 <romulo> yeah, im already doing that.
2011-05-16 12:56:15+0000 <romulo> but "Internal Server Error" is our message, 
not twisted. Am i right about that too?
2011-05-16 12:56:29+0000 <dachary> I don't understand what you mean by 
"backtrace in the console"
2011-05-16 12:57:42+0000 <romulo> Well, i type a nickname with accents on the 
page, it gives me back "Internal Server Error" . Typically, this should 
generate a stacktrace (or call list) so we know where to start debugging from
2011-05-16 12:57:52+0000 <dachary> Internal Server Error is the generic message 
associated to a code 500 if i remember correctly
2011-05-16 12:58:33+0000 <dachary> and yes, there should be a stack trace 
associated to it
2011-05-16 12:58:51+0000 <dachary> it should be in the content of the 500 page 
2011-05-16 12:59:05+0000 <dachary> and you should be able to see it in the 
browser
2011-05-16 12:59:14+0000 <dachary> in firebug at least romulo
2011-05-16 12:59:30+0000 <romulo> ok, will try it.
2011-05-16 13:06:37+0000 <romulo> ok, got the error now, also got the backtrace
2011-05-16 13:06:41+0000 <romulo> looking for it =]
2011-05-16 13:10:44+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-16 13:16:44+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: hi there : )
2011-05-16 13:16:51+0000 <antoviaque> Sorry, I was at lunch
2011-05-16 13:17:24+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, hi there, good morning
2011-05-16 13:18:06+0000 <antoviaque> I've read the backlog - so you want to 
chose the accent one?
2011-05-16 13:18:13+0000 <romulo> yeah
2011-05-16 13:18:16+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque looking at the bugs list
2011-05-16 13:20:48+0000 <antoviaque> it's good - it fits the priority yep
2011-05-16 13:21:25+0000 <antoviaque> did you manage to get a grasp of git ? : )
2011-05-16 13:21:41+0000 <romulo> im using git default, not gitorious yet
2011-05-16 13:22:05+0000 <antoviaque> btw rogerio is doing a test task today - 
so you may finally have some company during your evening, when France is asleep 
;p
2011-05-16 13:22:19+0000 <romulo> heheh
2011-05-16 13:22:21+0000 <romulo> which rogerio?
2011-05-16 13:23:57+0000 <antoviaque> Rogerio Hilbert
2011-05-16 13:24:30+0000 <romulo> hmm
2011-05-16 13:31:56+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, too bad Rogerio CS didnt come :/
2011-05-16 13:32:18+0000 <antoviaque> You have a way to reach him? We can still 
try out something
2011-05-16 13:32:33+0000 <romulo> yeah, i do
2011-05-16 13:32:44+0000 <romulo> will talk to him later today
2011-05-16 13:34:57+0000 <antoviaque> Yey : )
2011-05-16 13:38:03+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I have to run off for today - glad to 
have been able to catch up with you, and good luck for the task today : )
2011-05-16 13:38:25+0000 <romulo> thanks =D
2011-05-16 13:40:05+0000 <romulo> catch you later too, got to go
2011-05-16 13:45:21+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-16 13:54:48+0000 <dachary> back
2011-05-16 14:28:02+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-16 15:02:31+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: \o/
2011-05-16 15:03:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-05-16 15:03:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll put the files on the repository 
ok? the .ai files
2011-05-16 15:03:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you have illustrator cs5?
2011-05-16 15:03:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I bet not
2011-05-16 15:04:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> think I'll have to convert into 
eps… do you think inkscape opens eps?
2011-05-16 15:12:44+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-16 15:14:32+0000 <dachary> :-) I will manage to read the .ai files 
2011-05-16 15:14:46+0000 <dachary> if you can convert to SVG it's also 
convienent
2011-05-16 15:14:52+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: ^
2011-05-16 15:23:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok!
2011-05-16 15:33:24+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, on france too?
2011-05-16 15:33:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, I live here :)
2011-05-16 15:35:02+0000 <romulo> oh, not on my time zone either xD
2011-05-16 15:37:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> : )
2011-05-16 15:38:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: tell me one thing, you need 
the files just for the sizes right?
2011-05-16 15:38:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because the screenshots are not 
proportional
2011-05-16 15:38:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can give you proportional pgns, I 
think its better no?
2011-05-16 15:39:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because it will take some time for me 
to export everything to svg… because I work with cs5, and they have this 
option of making lots of documents inside of the same document and the svg 
doesn't understand that, so I'll have to export one by one to you
2011-05-16 15:43:54+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, pm'd you
2011-05-16 16:00:11+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: proportional pgns ? 
2011-05-16 16:00:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> with the right proportions
2011-05-16 16:00:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the right size
2011-05-16 16:01:40+0000 <dachary> Yes. When integrating, if I have an image 
that is exactly the right size, I can know exactly where an element must be 
inserted. 
2011-05-16 16:06:04+0000 <romulo> do anyone know where i found chat logs from a 
few days ago?
2011-05-16 16:07:39+0000 <romulo> where i can find*
2011-05-16 16:11:19+0000 <romulo> already found the exact log @ my email =]
2011-05-16 16:40:11+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-16 16:40:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: sorry about that! I'll 
export and send to you
2011-05-16 16:46:36+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: no problem :-) I placed some 
elements approximately for now and it won't be too much trouble to place them 
exactly where they are supposed to be.
2011-05-16 16:47:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can't wait to see!!!
2011-05-16 16:49:30+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: just one page for now ;-)
2011-05-16 16:49:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I want to see!!!
2011-05-16 16:49:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-05-16 16:51:33+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: ok. I'll show you. Hold.
2011-05-16 16:51:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> !!!!
2011-05-16 16:55:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: its on the repository under 
/cardstories/interface/pngs of the pages
2011-05-16 16:56:27+0000 <dachary> 
http://cardstori.es/?skin=invitation_pick_wait
2011-05-16 16:56:50+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: it's not spectacular ;-) 
2011-05-16 16:56:59+0000 <dachary> I left the background to antoviaque
2011-05-16 16:57:38+0000 <dachary> and I'm not sure what to do with the card 
size : the one I have are too big and I'm not sure if I should scale it myself
2011-05-16 16:57:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool!!!!
2011-05-16 16:57:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its not finished yet, right? :P
2011-05-16 16:57:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaah
2011-05-16 16:58:08+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-05-16 16:58:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm just kidding, I really liked
2011-05-16 16:58:23+0000 <dachary> it's not finished ! 
2011-05-16 16:58:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-05-16 16:58:45+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: it's nice to see your 
designs assembled
2011-05-16 16:59:06+0000 <dachary> if you play a game you will see this state 
2011-05-16 16:59:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> lets see if you'll survive my pain in 
the *ss design comments hahahahaha
2011-05-16 16:59:11+0000 <dachary> and it's indeed better
2011-05-16 16:59:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-05-16 16:59:26+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-05-16 17:00:35+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: do you think I should just 
resize the image ? Or would you like to scale them to the desired size yourself 
to make sure the aspect is not modified in a way you don't like ? 
2011-05-16 17:01:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what image exactly are you talking 
about?
2011-05-16 17:01:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the card, you mean?
2011-05-16 17:02:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I gave you all the pngs with the 
exact size to avoid resizing or doing anything else, but the cards will have to 
be resized sometimes...
2011-05-16 17:02:26+0000 <dachary> the card yes
2011-05-16 17:02:41+0000 <dachary> I don't mind resizing
2011-05-16 17:02:47+0000 <dachary> I just want to make sure
2011-05-16 17:03:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, and this is not the final 
card… the one on the address you gave me… the final ones, they have a border
2011-05-16 17:03:02+0000 <dachary> I don't want to damage your design without 
your consent ;-)
2011-05-16 17:03:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha thank you!
2011-05-16 17:03:18+0000 <dachary> yes, there is the border
2011-05-16 17:03:23+0000 <dachary> I will resize the card then
2011-05-16 17:03:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can't see...
2011-05-16 17:04:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on this page for instance, the card 
has w=383 px with the border included already
2011-05-16 17:04:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> 363, sorry
2011-05-16 17:05:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you want me to give you all the 
values?
2011-05-16 17:05:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it would be better, no?
2011-05-16 17:07:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> xavier is telling me that you can do 
that with the png… well you chose, if you prefer, I can give you the 
instructions ok? :)
2011-05-16 17:23:36+0000 <dachary> (diner bbl)
2011-05-16 17:55:27+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline
2011-05-16 18:02:31+0000 <dachary> back
2011-05-16 21:14:22+0000 <dachary> פּוץ
2011-05-16 21:46:36+0000 rogerio (rogerio) is now online
2011-05-16 21:53:09+0000 <dachary> rogerio: hi
2011-05-16 21:53:23+0000 <dachary> ‏antoviaque: ‫פּוץ
2011-05-16 21:53:42+0000 <rogerio> hi
2011-05-16 21:54:36+0000 <dachary> I'm curious about what you worked on today 
2011-05-16 21:55:46+0000 <rogerio> Hi, I did not work today yet
2011-05-16 21:56:10+0000 <rogerio> I just talked to Xavier this morning
2011-05-16 21:56:35+0000 <rogerio> and he suggested me a task to tackle
2011-05-16 21:57:19+0000 <rogerio> I'm sorry, I don't know the members of the 
team
2011-05-16 21:57:25+0000 <rogerio> who are you?
2011-05-16 21:57:43+0000 <rogerio> Did Xavier already talked about me to you?
2011-05-16 22:03:38+0000 <rogerio> hi dachary, are you there?
2011-05-16 22:03:56+0000 <dachary> yes
2011-05-16 22:04:18+0000 <rogerio> so, I would like to know the team
2011-05-16 22:04:26+0000 <dachary> rogerio: sorry about that. I don't have my 
eyes on the chat and you need to say my name for the IM client to notify me ;-)
2011-05-16 22:04:54+0000 <rogerio> sorry
2011-05-16 22:05:17+0000 <dachary> rogerio: I saw this morning that he said you 
would be working but did not specify about what
2011-05-16 22:05:47+0000 <dachary> rogerio: I'm a developer, I wrote most of 
the code at http://cardstori.es/
2011-05-16 22:06:06+0000 <rogerio> great
2011-05-16 22:06:20+0000 <dachary> currently doing some CSS integration
2011-05-16 22:06:39+0000 <rogerio> are you french?
2011-05-16 22:06:43+0000 <dachary> oui :-D
2011-05-16 22:06:54+0000 <rogerio> great
2011-05-16 22:07:07+0000 <rogerio> I'm learning french this year
2011-05-16 22:07:15+0000 <rogerio> I'm on basic lessons
2011-05-16 22:07:42+0000 <rogerio> comment allez vous?
2011-05-16 22:07:47+0000 <rogerio> heheheh
2011-05-16 22:07:55+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-05-16 22:08:00+0000 <dachary> très bien, merci
2011-05-16 22:08:59+0000 <rogerio> so, I need to prepare my development 
enviroment here
2011-05-16 22:10:15+0000 <rogerio> dachary: and then try to do the task  
http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/61
2011-05-16 22:11:01+0000 <rogerio> this is the task that Xavier suggested me 
today to do
2011-05-16 22:14:10+0000 <dachary> what environment are you going to use ? 
2011-05-16 22:14:14+0000 <dachary> rogerio: ^
2011-05-16 22:15:00+0000 <rogerio> python
2011-05-16 22:16:19+0000 <dachary> ok
2011-05-16 22:44:10+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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