Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-05-18.


2011-05-18 00:00:14+0000 <dachary> romulo: it seems ok to use unicode(x, 
'utf-8') instead of decode indeed
2011-05-18 00:00:20+0000 <dachary> you have a point
2011-05-18 00:01:04+0000 <dachary> now, why would it be a problem to use the \x 
notation instead of actual 8 bit characters ? 
2011-05-18 00:01:17+0000 <romulo> testing in my python, it fails 
2011-05-18 00:01:24+0000 <dachary> why ? 
2011-05-18 00:01:33+0000 <dachary> how ? 
2011-05-18 00:01:59+0000 <romulo> >>> unicode("teste\xc3", 'utf-8')
2011-05-18 00:02:00+0000 <rogerio> Hi everyone
2011-05-18 00:02:00+0000 <romulo> Traceback (most recent call last):
2011-05-18 00:02:00+0000 <romulo>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
2011-05-18 00:02:00+0000 <romulo> UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode 
byte 0xc3 in position 5: unexpected end of data
2011-05-18 00:02:04+0000 <romulo> hi there rogerio 
2011-05-18 00:02:40+0000 <rogerio> Hi
2011-05-18 00:03:23+0000 <rogerio> dachary: about the task I made yesterday
2011-05-18 00:04:08+0000 <rogerio> dachary: The only changes I made was on 
JavaScript
2011-05-18 00:04:42+0000 <dachary> romulo: is your utf-8 string valid ? could 
you past it here ( with the \x sequence)
2011-05-18 00:05:02+0000 <rogerio> dachary: Do I need to make test for 
JavaScript?
2011-05-18 00:05:45+0000 <romulo> teste\xc3\xa9
2011-05-18 00:05:57+0000 <dachary> rogerio: yes, there are tests for javascript 
too. You can see them run at http://cardstori.es/cardstories/static/test/
2011-05-18 00:06:07+0000 <romulo> dachary, this one doesnt fail to convert
2011-05-18 00:06:56+0000 <dachary> >>> e = 'teste\xc3\xa9'
2011-05-18 00:06:56+0000 <dachary> >>> f = unicode(e, 'utf-8')
2011-05-18 00:06:56+0000 <dachary> >>> f
2011-05-18 00:06:56+0000 <dachary> u'teste\xe9'
2011-05-18 00:07:01+0000 <dachary> ah
2011-05-18 00:07:08+0000 <dachary> romulo: which one fails to convert ? 
2011-05-18 00:07:14+0000 <romulo> a wrong one, my bad :P
2011-05-18 00:07:18+0000 <dachary> :-D
2011-05-18 00:07:46+0000 <romulo> you know any way to convert one like "t�st" 
to \x format?
2011-05-18 00:08:46+0000 <rogerio> dachary: thank you dachary, I didn't see that
2011-05-18 00:09:06+0000 <dachary> rogerio: you are welcome
2011-05-18 00:09:51+0000 <romulo> dachary, also believe that a test for email 
sending is required?
2011-05-18 00:11:00+0000 <dachary> romulo: it is indeed. The most painful thing 
to figure out with email is : did it get out ? If it's not automated in a way, 
it is a nightmare.
2011-05-18 00:11:27+0000 <romulo> yeah
2011-05-18 00:12:22+0000 <dachary> romulo: however, once you have proof that it 
is in the hands of a mailer, you can stop worrying about it. The actual 
delivery of the mail is out of your scope. What is in your scope is to make 
sure you deposited the mail to a mail agent that accepted it.
2011-05-18 00:13:10+0000 <romulo> yeah, im looking for twisted sendmail() docs
2011-05-18 00:13:11+0000 <dachary> romulo: I'll get some sleep now, tomorrow is 
a big day for my son and I need to be with him. 
2011-05-18 00:13:20+0000 <romulo> sure. Thanks for the help
2011-05-18 00:13:27+0000 <romulo> i will read more docs and try to send some 
email
2011-05-18 00:13:27+0000 <dachary> romulo: take a look at the existing code, it 
already sends mail
2011-05-18 00:13:35+0000 <romulo> i know, looking @ it now =]
2011-05-18 00:13:38+0000 <dachary> rogerio: by
2011-05-18 00:13:41+0000 <dachary> rogerio: bye
2011-05-18 00:13:46+0000 <dachary> night :)
2011-05-18 00:13:52+0000 <romulo> also i asked for a test because of this, the 
current code failed here with a internal server error, :D
2011-05-18 00:17:48+0000 <romulo> rogerio, how you are doing
2011-05-18 00:21:43+0000 <rogerio> dachary: bye
2011-05-18 00:21:48+0000 <rogerio> romulo: I'm fine romulo,
2011-05-18 00:22:14+0000 <rogerio> romulo: I'm trying to make the test for 
javascript here
2011-05-18 00:22:56+0000 <rogerio> romulo: and, how are you Romulo?
2011-05-18 00:23:52+0000 <romulo> fine too =]
2011-05-18 00:24:26+0000 <rogerio> great
2011-05-18 03:27:08+0000 <romulo> dachary, after a few (5) hours messing up 
with twisted api docs, python docs and fighting postfix, i got html emails to 
work :D
2011-05-18 03:27:16+0000 <romulo> talk to you tomorrow, heading bed :/
2011-05-18 05:19:55+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-05-18 06:05:33+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-05-18 06:43:23+0000 da1 (da1) is now online
2011-05-18 06:56:08+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-18 06:57:53+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: hi
2011-05-18 06:57:59+0000 <dachary> da hi
2011-05-18 06:59:02+0000 <dachary> i will be connected intermittently today, 
using mail for communications
2011-05-18 09:20:46+0000 <rogerio> Hello
2011-05-18 09:21:09+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque:
2011-05-18 09:21:24+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Hi Xavier
2011-05-18 09:21:43+0000 <rogerio> dachary: Hi, how are you?
2011-05-18 09:25:18+0000 <rogerio> Yesterday I made the test for the task #70 
and I attached into the ticked
2011-05-18 09:26:27+0000 <rogerio> I spent time a little bit to learn about 
that JavaScript framework for tests
2011-05-18 09:28:11+0000 <rogerio> I also tried to do the ticket #15 and then 
the #71, but I could not understand the description properly of the ticket #15
2011-05-18 09:28:25+0000 <rogerio> http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/15
2011-05-18 09:28:37+0000 <rogerio> Title: invitation state : {GAME_URL} 
substitution
2011-05-18 09:28:49+0000 <rogerio> Description: The invitation() function must 
supplant() {GAME_URL} with a URLencoded permalink to the game for which 
invitations are being sent.
2011-05-18 09:30:05+0000 <antoviaque> hi rogerio : )
2011-05-18 09:30:21+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Hi Xavier
2011-05-18 09:30:31+0000 <rogerio> how are you?
2011-05-18 09:30:42+0000 <antoviaque> very well :)
2011-05-18 09:30:47+0000 <antoviaque> and you?
2011-05-18 09:30:53+0000 <rogerio> good
2011-05-18 09:30:58+0000 <rogerio> I'm fine too
2011-05-18 09:31:24+0000 <rogerio> did you see my last doubts above?
2011-05-18 09:31:29+0000 <antoviaque> Cool for the test - dachary is 
intermittently connected today, but if you put everything in the tciket and 
then attribute it to him, he'll have a look
2011-05-18 09:31:32+0000 <antoviaque> yes
2011-05-18 09:31:39+0000 <antoviaque> for ticket #15
2011-05-18 09:31:40+0000 <rogerio> sorry
2011-05-18 09:31:44+0000 <rogerio> yes
2011-05-18 09:32:20+0000 <antoviaque> if you look at #71 you'll see that the 
HTML in the patch contains a string {GAME_URL}
2011-05-18 09:32:34+0000 <rogerio> let me take a look
2011-05-18 09:32:57+0000 <antoviaque> #15 is simply about replacing that string 
with the actual permalink for the current game
2011-05-18 09:33:02+0000 <rogerio> Yes, I undersand
2011-05-18 09:33:38+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque is working on the centering of 
the game : )
2011-05-18 09:35:01+0000 <rogerio> ok, but, there says abot the invitation() 
function
2011-05-18 09:35:05+0000 <rogerio> abot = about
2011-05-18 09:35:46+0000 <rogerio> ok, I understand now
2011-05-18 09:36:19+0000 <rogerio> so, If I finish #15, the #71 will also 
automatically be done
2011-05-18 09:36:43+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-05-18 09:39:05+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: sorry, I spent time doing the 
test yesterday, I could not understand the task #15 yesterday, but I'll finish 
it today, now I understood better
2011-05-18 09:40:10+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: no problem - sorry that the 
explanation wasn't clear enough
2011-05-18 09:40:21+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: that's ok
2011-05-18 09:40:26+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to explain more when I create 
new tickets from now on
2011-05-18 09:41:35+0000 <antoviaque> Could also be helpful to explore a bit 
how to do the ticket during "French time", this way if you have questions we 
get a chance to discuss it
2011-05-18 09:41:45+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Did you talke yesterday with da 
about that matter?
2011-05-18 09:42:25+0000 <rogerio> yes, I'll try to do that
2011-05-18 09:42:43+0000 <antoviaque> We quickly discussed it this morning 
before he went to a meeting, but the best would be to wait for him, he should 
be back early afternoon
2011-05-18 09:43:02+0000 <antoviaque> this way we can really sort this out the 
three of us
2011-05-18 09:43:29+0000 <antoviaque> But don't worry, I'm sure we'll find a 
way to make this work : )
2011-05-18 09:43:49+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: no problem
2011-05-18 09:43:51+0000 <rogerio> :)
2011-05-18 09:44:05+0000 <rogerio> thanks Xavier
2011-05-18 09:44:57+0000 <rogerio> So, I think I should go now, I can't be late 
in current job again today, ehheheh
2011-05-18 09:45:17+0000 <rogerio> I'll finish the task 15# today
2011-05-18 09:45:33+0000 <antoviaque> ok!
2011-05-18 09:45:36+0000 <antoviaque> good luck : )
2011-05-18 09:45:47+0000 <rogerio> thank you
2011-05-18 09:46:19+0000 <rogerio> do you want to tell me something else before 
I leave?
2011-05-18 09:46:31+0000 <antoviaque> nope, I think we're good
2011-05-18 09:46:40+0000 <rogerio> thanks
2011-05-18 09:46:44+0000 <rogerio> have a nice day
2011-05-18 09:46:47+0000 <antoviaque> just try to connect here when you can, so 
we can grab da and sort things out : )
2011-05-18 09:46:50+0000 <antoviaque> you too!
2011-05-18 09:47:24+0000 <rogerio> yes, the problem is, on Cemig, the network 
are blocked for a lot of things
2011-05-18 09:47:36+0000 <rogerio> I tried to connect on IRC, but is blockec
2011-05-18 09:47:47+0000 <antoviaque> even through http://farsides.com/chat/ ?
2011-05-18 09:48:38+0000 <rogerio> ops, I neither tried it
2011-05-18 09:48:49+0000 <antoviaque> worth a shot ;p
2011-05-18 09:48:54+0000 <rogerio> I'll do this today
2011-05-18 09:49:02+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-05-18 09:49:17+0000 <rogerio> It will be very great if works
2011-05-18 09:49:27+0000 <antoviaque> yup!
2011-05-18 09:49:36+0000 <rogerio> thanks again Xavier
2011-05-18 09:49:40+0000 <rogerio> I have to leave
2011-05-18 09:49:44+0000 <antoviaque> yw - thanks to you
2011-05-18 09:49:51+0000 <antoviaque> have a good day : )
2011-05-18 09:49:51+0000 <rogerio> see you
2011-05-18 11:25:12+0000 <antoviaque> da: since you asked about the way to 
include the info about iterations & time in the tracker, I had a look at 
Redmine as an alternative to Launchpad, who don't support this: 
http://farsides.com/tickets/projects/cardstories
2011-05-18 11:25:33+0000 <antoviaque> If you want to experiment with it and let 
me know if that would solve your issue
2011-05-18 11:25:59+0000 <antoviaque> I'll then check if it matches the other 
workflow requirements, and if everyone likes it
2011-05-18 11:26:21+0000 <antoviaque> so it's a long way but if it helps you : )
2011-05-18 11:28:48+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-18 11:28:50+0000 <romulo> good morning
2011-05-18 11:28:59+0000 <antoviaque> hello! :)
2011-05-18 11:29:37+0000 <romulo> how are you?
2011-05-18 11:30:03+0000 <antoviaque> Very good - today I'm able to come back a 
bit on the technical side : )
2011-05-18 11:30:13+0000 <antoviaque> and you?
2011-05-18 11:30:15+0000 <romulo> great
2011-05-18 11:30:17+0000 <romulo> im fine too
2011-05-18 11:30:29+0000 <romulo> had a cold winter morning today, @ 12C
2011-05-18 11:30:30+0000 <romulo> =D
2011-05-18 11:30:55+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, that's proably what we get early 
in the morning here, and it's a hot week ;p
2011-05-18 11:31:08+0000 <romulo> invested a few hours yesterday into twisted, 
python and postfix docs
2011-05-18 11:31:28+0000 <romulo> Also, included that on trac -> 
http://cardstori.es/trac/wiki/HowToTickets
2011-05-18 11:31:38+0000 <antoviaque> Yep, I've seen you have a bit refined the 
task with loic
2011-05-18 11:31:51+0000 <romulo> Many bugs (including #21 and the one Rogerio 
took) have a very rought description
2011-05-18 11:32:04+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I saw the discussion about that, 
it's true
2011-05-18 11:32:35+0000 <antoviaque> As I was saying to rogerio this morning, 
I'll try to describe a bit more in the new tickets I create from now on
2011-05-18 11:32:54+0000 <antoviaque> If we all do the same it should hopefully 
help : )
2011-05-18 11:33:27+0000 <antoviaque> On the other side, it would be good to 
find a way to have a first look at the ticket(s) of the day during "French 
hours"
2011-05-18 11:33:53+0000 <antoviaque> this way when there are questions, we can 
tackle them together
2011-05-18 11:34:06+0000 <antoviaque> At least on the definition of the task
2011-05-18 11:34:56+0000 <romulo> yeah, sure.
2011-05-18 11:34:57+0000 <antoviaque> what do you think? would that help 
solving the issue?
2011-05-18 11:35:10+0000 <antoviaque> or do you see something else?
2011-05-18 11:35:10+0000 <romulo> Yeah, that would address the issue. Also, the 
new descriptions
2011-05-18 11:35:23+0000 <romulo> Do you agree with the trac page?
2011-05-18 11:35:54+0000 <antoviaque> Of course, those are important points
2011-05-18 11:36:20+0000 <antoviaque> it won't always be exact though - tickets 
are not specs, and the margin for interpretation will always exist
2011-05-18 11:36:54+0000 <antoviaque> and it's a good thing imho - as long as 
you're able to understand the task, then it's up to you to do what you think is 
best for the game
2011-05-18 11:37:28+0000 <antoviaque> right now the problem is that it's too 
short to be able to get what it is about at all
2011-05-18 11:38:08+0000 <antoviaque> anyway - thanks for this page, it will be 
an helpful reference to pass to those who enter tickets : )
2011-05-18 11:41:50+0000 romulo_ (romulo_) is now online
2011-05-18 11:41:57+0000 <romulo_> sorry disconnected :/
2011-05-18 11:42:41+0000 <romulo> anyway, about the task i got yesterday. Can 
you explain it to me? It seems i need to send a few emails every time some 
event happen
2011-05-18 11:46:03+0000 <romulo> Btw, its really cool to work @ farsides now
2011-05-18 11:46:06+0000 <romulo> i feel confortable
2011-05-18 11:47:10+0000 <antoviaque> Cool :D
2011-05-18 11:47:50+0000 <antoviaque> I'm glad to work with you, so something 
seems to be working :)
2011-05-18 11:47:57+0000 <antoviaque> So for the ticket #21
2011-05-18 11:48:35+0000 <antoviaque> As you can see in the screenshot, this is 
a series of emails sent to the player or the author when the game reach various 
stages
2011-05-18 11:49:37+0000 <antoviaque> The invitation is easy - it's sent to a 
new player when an email to invite is entered by the author
2011-05-18 11:49:58+0000 <romulo> yeah, this one is catchy
2011-05-18 11:50:07+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2011-05-18 11:50:20+0000 <romulo> but whenever a player select a card for 
example, should the service send the other players an email?
2011-05-18 11:50:21+0000 <antoviaque> Call to vote is the same, when the game 
enters the voting phase 
2011-05-18 11:50:53+0000 <antoviaque> Results is when the results are 
("complete" clicked by author to end the game)
2011-05-18 11:52:11+0000 <antoviaque> for the author, new card/new vote are 
sent whenever a player picks a card in the pick_card phase, or votes for a card 
in the voting phase
2011-05-18 11:53:40+0000 <antoviaque> Reminder of active game is sent to the 
author, when an non-completed game stays more than X hours in the same phase 
(with X configurable similarly to the game expiration time)
2011-05-18 11:54:21+0000 <antoviaque> And results ready to be published is sent 
when all players have voted, and the author just has to click "COMPLETE" to end 
the game
2011-05-18 11:54:27+0000 <antoviaque> makes sense?
2011-05-18 11:55:23+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: ah no - author ones are only sent 
to the author, players ones are only sent to players
2011-05-18 11:57:32+0000 <antoviaque> => added to the ticket: 
http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/21#comment:6
2011-05-18 11:59:17+0000 <antoviaque> Btw, how long do you estimate for the 
completion of this task? (including the time you spent on it yesterday night)
2011-05-18 11:59:51+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-18 12:00:13+0000 <romulo> reading :P
2011-05-18 12:01:14+0000 <romulo> ok, i think i will spend some time on it
2011-05-18 12:01:31+0000 <romulo> i already spent 5 hours on making email + 
html embedded + understind twisted api
2011-05-18 12:02:15+0000 <romulo> the description makes sense now. 
2011-05-18 12:02:40+0000 <antoviaque> ok perfect
2011-05-18 12:02:48+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: Btw, how long do you estimate for 
the completion of this task? (including the time you spent on it yesterday 
night)
2011-05-18 12:02:52+0000 <romulo> Also, i have to make a test for the email 
sending service. I tried to use it yesterday, got an ISE, banged my head 
against the wall =P
2011-05-18 12:03:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> auch
2011-05-18 12:03:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that hurts
2011-05-18 12:03:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2011-05-18 12:03:11+0000 <romulo> not that much
2011-05-18 12:03:13+0000 <da1> yes it does
2011-05-18 12:03:19+0000 <romulo> my wall is made of chocolate
2011-05-18 12:03:22+0000 * romulo rolls
2011-05-18 12:03:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ohhh
2011-05-18 12:03:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and your tea is made of mushrooms? :P
2011-05-18 12:03:43+0000 <romulo> :D
2011-05-18 12:03:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhahahahaha
2011-05-18 12:03:47+0000 <romulo> probably
2011-05-18 12:03:48+0000 <romulo> hahaha
2011-05-18 12:04:05+0000 <romulo> anyway, i'd say at least more 5 hours
2011-05-18 12:04:54+0000 <antoviaque> so we say 1.5 day for the whole task, 
including the integration?
2011-05-18 12:06:02+0000 <romulo> i guess so
2011-05-18 12:06:07+0000 <romulo> i though it would be easier =P
2011-05-18 12:06:11+0000 <romulo> my bad
2011-05-18 12:06:41+0000 <antoviaque> no worries - that's also why I thought it 
was good to only start with a small portion over 0.5 day yesterday
2011-05-18 12:06:50+0000 <antoviaque> this way you got a better feel of the 
work needed
2011-05-18 12:07:27+0000 <romulo> well, i feel fine about it
2011-05-18 12:07:36+0000 <antoviaque> cool : )
2011-05-18 12:07:37+0000 <romulo> i was happy at the end of the day when it 
just worked :P
2011-05-18 12:07:47+0000 <antoviaque> I can imagine yep ;p
2011-05-18 12:08:09+0000 <da1> romulo: can you please include the duration 
(1.5) for ticket 21 in your next report on buddypress ? 
2011-05-18 12:08:15+0000 <antoviaque> emails are supposed to be simple, but 
they always complicate things ;p
2011-05-18 12:08:30+0000 <da1> would make things very easy for me :)
2011-05-18 12:08:42+0000 <romulo> da1, Yeah, sure =]
2011-05-18 12:08:47+0000 <da1> thx ;)
2011-05-18 12:59:08+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, will you send me the art for 
#21 today?
2011-05-18 12:59:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes!
2011-05-18 12:59:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very soon.
2011-05-18 12:59:59+0000 <romulo> Great. Upload it somewhere and send me the 
links please =]
2011-05-18 13:02:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> OK, I have a question for you first
2011-05-18 13:02:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for the background of the emails, do 
you want me to give you a small square pixel and you duplicate all over the 
email or you prefer that I give you a big image?
2011-05-18 13:03:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I don't know if it's possible to do 
this duplication that's why I'm asking :)
2011-05-18 13:03:28+0000 <romulo> i guess its possible.
2011-05-18 13:03:40+0000 <romulo> as far as i know the background can be 
tileable in a html email
2011-05-18 13:03:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ah ok, so its better! :D I'm doing it!
2011-05-18 13:03:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool!
2011-05-18 13:04:02+0000 <romulo> great =]
2011-05-18 13:04:54+0000 <da1> one post that should be worth reading and 
following for our future recurring contractors : 
http://farsides.com/blog/members/blanchard/activity/659/ 
2011-05-18 13:05:20+0000 <da1> and please take the opportunity to subscribe to 
the HR group in order to receive notifications
2011-05-18 13:05:27+0000 <da1> tartarugafeliz: romulo :)
2011-05-18 13:05:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> okey! :D
2011-05-18 13:06:26+0000 <romulo> already in group =]
2011-05-18 13:06:57+0000 <da1> perfect :)
2011-05-18 13:29:00+0000 rogerio (rogerio) is now online
2011-05-18 13:30:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> romulo: I put the first email on the 
repository (farsides.com.files) under /cardstories/emails, I did the first one, 
I'll put the others during the day ok?
2011-05-18 13:30:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> farsides.com/files sorry
2011-05-18 13:30:46+0000 <romulo> ok =]
2011-05-18 13:30:49+0000 <romulo> will check it later today
2011-05-18 14:29:47+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-18 14:30:03+0000 <dachary> back
2011-05-18 14:30:12+0000 <antoviaque> re : )
2011-05-18 14:38:28+0000 dachary1 (dachary1) is now online
2011-05-18 14:39:00+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-18 14:49:48+0000 <romulo> dachary, yo yo. Do you have any idea if 
twisted deferred callbacks are automagically parallel? (I dont really think so)
2011-05-18 14:58:31+0000 <dachary> romulo: I'm not sure I understand your 
question
2011-05-18 15:04:38+0000 <romulo> dachary, twisted created deferred calls so we 
can process stuff asynchroniously right? What if the calls got processed on 
multiple threads
2011-05-18 15:06:54+0000 <dachary> romulo: there are deferred related functions 
specific to thread interactions ( 
http://twistedmatrix.com/documents/current/api/twisted.internet.threads.html ). 
Most deferred are used to process events though.
2011-05-18 15:08:07+0000 <dachary> romulo: if you would like me to explain 
more, press 1. If you need assistance press 2. If you understood the answer 
press צוויי
2011-05-18 15:10:48+0000 <romulo> צווייצוויי
2011-05-18 15:10:50+0000 <romulo> :D
2011-05-18 15:11:39+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-05-18 15:12:15+0000 * dachary reviewing http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/41 
antoviaque
2011-05-18 15:12:46+0000 <da1> dachary: you want to convert everyone to yiddish 
and make it the new esperanto
2011-05-18 15:24:39+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: good patches. They are in 
http://cardstori.es/trac/changeset/96af682bd63769d6c8b88911d0b30937ab95c469/ 
and others
2011-05-18 15:25:03+0000 <dachary> the reference to the tickets failed though. 
I use ref#41 and fix#41
2011-05-18 15:25:20+0000 <dachary> apparently ticket #41 is not working
2011-05-18 15:25:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll put that from now on
2011-05-18 15:26:08+0000 <antoviaque> #41 I'm still working on it, but the 
first patch should work - what's wrong?
2011-05-18 15:27:02+0000 <antoviaque> ahhhh ok
2011-05-18 15:28:03+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the review and the merge : )
2011-05-18 15:28:23+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: you are welcome, that was an 
easy one ;-)
2011-05-18 15:28:31+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, yep ;p
2011-05-18 15:28:45+0000 <dachary> note that I pulled / pushed all your 
changes, not just the #41
2011-05-18 15:29:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2011-05-18 15:44:23+0000 <da1> antoviaque: i tried to create an account on 
redmine, i think it's pending your validation
2011-05-18 15:46:26+0000 <da1> antoviaque: i'm done with the admin for today, 
and i want something completely different now. Do you see a nice easy small 
cool ticket that i could look at :)
2011-05-18 16:37:33+0000 * dachary reviewed http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/70
2011-05-18 16:40:23+0000 * dachary fell into a git wormhole
2011-05-18 16:55:06+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: http://gitready.com/ seems 
interesting 
2011-05-18 16:57:01+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: if you want to try the redmine: 
http://farsides.com/tickets
2011-05-18 16:58:43+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: my account is pending approval
2011-05-18 17:00:02+0000 * dachary discovered git diff -color --word-diff
2011-05-18 17:00:07+0000 * dachary discovered git diff --color --word-diff
2011-05-18 17:03:26+0000 * dachary neeed approval from antoviaque
2011-05-18 17:06:21+0000 * dachary neeed 
2011-05-18 17:07:35+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: pliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiz
2011-05-18 17:07:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2011-05-18 17:07:59+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque scratches his head to find 
where to validate accounts
2011-05-18 17:08:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> oh my god
2011-05-18 17:08:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you guys are crazy people
2011-05-18 17:08:27+0000 <antoviaque> you contaminated everyone, crazy!
2011-05-18 17:09:00+0000 <antoviaque> ah!
2011-05-18 17:09:07+0000 * dachary neeed 
2011-05-18 17:09:09+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: da: done for redmine : )
2011-05-18 17:10:41+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: 
http://farsides.com/tickets/issues.atom?key=e51668da8f53930a4a17f1e4be352617f6a3b35d
 fails neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
2011-05-18 17:10:45+0000 <antoviaque> I also made you both admins, if you want 
to experiment
2011-05-18 17:12:16+0000 * dachary senses a trap
2011-05-18 17:12:21+0000 * dachary dodges 
2011-05-18 17:21:01+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: 
http://cardstori.es/trac/ticket/41#comment:12
2011-05-18 17:31:05+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the review :D :p
2011-05-18 17:40:47+0000 <dachary> 
http://cardstori.es/trac/wiki/WikiStart#Commitandtickets 
2011-05-18 17:40:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: da 
2011-05-18 19:16:36+0000 <antoviaque> ah, solved the RSS issue : )
2011-05-18 19:32:42+0000 <antoviaque> da: was looking at redmine plugins, and I 
noticed there was one for agile development: http://www.redminebacklogs.net/
2011-05-18 19:32:54+0000 <antoviaque> if you want to play with it, tell me, 
I'll install it
2011-05-18 19:37:13+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-18 19:40:36+0000 <antoviaque> but probably we should try the rest first 
2011-05-18 21:11:09+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: would you have time to explain 
the CSS you used to center the background ? 
2011-05-18 21:11:18+0000 <dachary> I would like to understand it.
2011-05-18 21:17:08+0000 <dachary> this copyright overlay is incredibly 
difficult to get right
2011-05-18 21:17:52+0000 * dachary trying to figure out why the "next" input 
show on *top* of it although all the rest is below
2011-05-18 21:20:31+0000 <dachary> z-index is all
2011-05-18 21:29:21+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, which confirms the rule that the 
most basic things are the most complex in CSS ;p
2011-05-18 21:29:48+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: and sure for the CSS to center 
the background - what do you want to know?
2011-05-18 21:31:27+0000 <antoviaque> basically it's using the display:table 
method
2011-05-18 21:33:06+0000 <antoviaque> the HTML and the table (bg_outer) stretch 
over the screen size, and contains only one cell, to use the vertical alignment 
attribute
2011-05-18 21:35:17+0000 <antoviaque> this is what allows to avoid the negative 
margin drawback (the one cutting the top)
2011-05-18 21:35:47+0000 <antoviaque> then the div enclosed in the cell is 
centered horizontally using auto margin
2011-05-18 21:39:04+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: neat trick. Sounds cross browser 
friendly too.
2011-05-18 21:39:29+0000 <antoviaque> I didn't dare to try on IE though ;p
2011-05-18 21:40:53+0000 <dachary> the time will come for the cross browser 
sword : it will separate the tricks from the good
2011-05-18 21:41:05+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-05-18 21:41:24+0000 <dachary> it looks like this one will survive
2011-05-18 21:42:30+0000 <antoviaque> I hope they will come up with a better 
way to say "I want this thing in the middle, dammit!" ;p
2011-05-18 22:43:12+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-18 22:44:02+0000 <romulo> dachary, ping =]
2011-05-18 22:44:49+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-18 22:45:10+0000 <dachary> romulo: paf
2011-05-18 22:45:22+0000 <romulo> you have earlier today logs?
2011-05-18 22:46:35+0000 <dachary> maybe not
2011-05-18 22:46:39+0000 <dachary> I don't log all
2011-05-18 22:46:42+0000 <dachary> only when I'm around
2011-05-18 22:47:34+0000 <romulo> i lost my logs for ealier today, i cant find 
where tartarugafeliz put the files :/
2011-05-18 22:53:48+0000 <romulo> anyway, will receive them in email
2011-05-18 22:53:49+0000 <romulo> bbs
2011-05-18 23:34:42+0000 <romulo> eve__, help?
2011-05-18 23:34:42+0000 <eve> romulo: I can help you with: looking things up, 
remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, 
browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system 
administration, software development and south african stuff.
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