Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-05-24.


2011-05-24 00:35:12+0000 rogerio_ (rogerio_) is now online
2011-05-24 02:36:35+0000 rogerio_ (rogerio_) is now online
2011-05-24 04:43:39+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-24 04:43:42+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping
2011-05-24 05:43:29+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: you missed him ;-)
2011-05-24 06:02:38+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: do you know when tartarugafeliz 
will be able to work on cardstori.es again ? I don't mean to pressure, only to 
organize my work depending on her availability. I will not adapt the same 
strategy if she works this week or next week or the next.
2011-05-24 06:26:29+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: hello : )
2011-05-24 06:26:35+0000 * antoviaque wakes up : )
2011-05-24 06:27:38+0000 <antoviaque> Ah, she finished her animation for the 
contest, so now she should be able to fix the last things
2011-05-24 06:28:00+0000 <antoviaque> I have to discuss this with her today,
2011-05-24 06:28:18+0000 <antoviaque> but it should only be a matter of days
2011-05-24 07:19:40+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-24 07:21:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: back
2011-05-24 07:21:17+0000 <dachary> (08:28:20 AM) antoviaque: but it should only 
be a matter of days
2011-05-24 07:21:22+0000 <dachary> is the last line I have from you
2011-05-24 07:21:56+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: yep
2011-05-24 07:22:05+0000 <antoviaque> didn't say anything afterwards
2011-05-24 07:22:10+0000 <dachary> good :-)
2011-05-24 07:22:22+0000 <antoviaque> what do you have in mind re strategy?
2011-05-24 07:25:37+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'll be working thrusday + 
saturday + sunday this week
2011-05-24 07:25:44+0000 <dachary> on and off today
2011-05-24 07:25:55+0000 <dachary> working on cardstories that is ;-)
2011-05-24 07:26:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2011-05-24 07:26:18+0000 <dachary> I have no strategy yet
2011-05-24 07:29:42+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I have reviewed your work & da1 
work. Is there anything else ? I think not but I prefer to double check.
2011-05-24 07:30:04+0000 <dachary> btw da1 I merged your work
2011-05-24 07:30:12+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, let me rebase to check :p
2011-05-24 07:30:31+0000 <da1> you did dachary ? but there are still 2 things 
to correct no ?
2011-05-24 07:30:55+0000 <dachary> (11:57:08 PM) dachary: antoviaque: your 
pending patch misses the validate.js file ( 
db1e63d029b18e02138ef5a618a028075ce30e2b )
2011-05-24 07:31:28+0000 <dachary> da1: yes there are, but they will be fixed 
without reverting your current work
2011-05-24 07:31:39+0000 <dachary> I had no reason to hold your changes back
2011-05-24 07:32:37+0000 <antoviaque> uh, I had added it - let me see
2011-05-24 07:33:04+0000 <da1> so let me check that i understand : you merged 
my work, and then when i finish what's missing you will apply a patch with my 
new commit ?
2011-05-24 07:33:10+0000 <da1> dachary: 
2011-05-24 07:34:14+0000 <antoviaque> rah, forgot the git rebase --continue, 
grmmml
2011-05-24 07:34:23+0000 <dachary> I will merge the changes that fix 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/19#note-9 when it is ready, yes
2011-05-24 07:34:42+0000 <da1> ok got it 
2011-05-24 07:34:44+0000 <da1> thx
2011-05-24 07:34:48+0000 <dachary> yw
2011-05-24 07:38:19+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: fixed - 
https://gitorious.org/~antoviaque/cardstories/antoviaques-cardstories/commit/3b6ac538a10da88a27e2009e53d2f1033e3b0718
2011-05-24 07:38:42+0000 <antoviaque> it was done, just not in the HEAD : )
2011-05-24 09:37:44+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-24 10:32:57+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Bonjour
2011-05-24 10:33:02+0000 <antoviaque> hi rogerio
2011-05-24 10:33:19+0000 <antoviaque> good day to you :)
2011-05-24 10:33:42+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: for you too
2011-05-24 10:34:00+0000 <rogerio> I finished the task yesterday
2011-05-24 10:34:56+0000 <rogerio> I need to do one thing now, I need update 
the buddypress
2011-05-24 10:35:10+0000 <da1> hi rogerio
2011-05-24 10:35:45+0000 <da1> actually, if all your tasks are present in 
tickets.farsides, you can just add the agreed duration there
2011-05-24 10:35:49+0000 <rogerio> da1: Hi, how are you? :)
2011-05-24 10:35:53+0000 <da1> it will be quicker for you
2011-05-24 10:36:00+0000 <da1> good thx
2011-05-24 10:36:07+0000 <da1> hope you too !
2011-05-24 10:36:15+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: cool for the task : )
2011-05-24 10:36:23+0000 <antoviaque> hope ti went well
2011-05-24 10:36:28+0000 <antoviaque> it
2011-05-24 10:36:50+0000 <antoviaque> Then perfect, you can chose one or 
several tasks for today then : )
2011-05-24 10:37:03+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: ahahahahaah
2011-05-24 10:38:13+0000 <rogerio> da1: adding the agreed duration there, I 
don't need to update buddypress?
2011-05-24 10:39:00+0000 <da1> i mean adding the agreed duration in the tickets 
would be enough (field estimated time)
2011-05-24 10:39:18+0000 <rogerio> da1: thanks :)
2011-05-24 10:39:33+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: I'll search for a new task for 
today, ok
2011-05-24 10:39:49+0000 <da1> if all your tasks are there as tickets of course 
(if there are some that were on trac but not on the new tracker let me know so 
I take them into account)
2011-05-24 10:42:17+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: about the issue #27
2011-05-24 10:42:43+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: What was the estimated time? Do 
you know?
2011-05-24 10:43:30+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: and also the Feature #22
2011-05-24 10:44:08+0000 <rogerio> #22 and #23 together
2011-05-24 10:55:20+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: I was reading the task 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/24
2011-05-24 10:55:30+0000 <antoviaque> readin
2011-05-24 10:55:40+0000 <antoviaque> reading
2011-05-24 10:56:03+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Can tackle this one?
2011-05-24 10:56:12+0000 <antoviaque> let me see
2011-05-24 10:56:18+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: I need to understand more
2011-05-24 10:57:37+0000 <antoviaque> for the past tasks, I think they were 
estimated to .5 days every time, no?
2011-05-24 10:57:44+0000 <antoviaque> how much time did you actually spend on 
them?
2011-05-24 10:58:29+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: or maybe this one: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/46
2011-05-24 10:58:33+0000 <antoviaque> For #24 dachary said he would take care 
of it, that's why it's not very detailled
2011-05-24 10:58:56+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: .5 days? I did not remember how 
much time I really spent on it
2011-05-24 10:59:01+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, #46 seem a better one - the other 
would be a bit big I think
2011-05-24 10:59:26+0000 <antoviaque> half a day every time (4h), if I'm 
remembering correctly
2011-05-24 10:59:36+0000 <rogerio> ok, I will tackle the #46, :)
2011-05-24 11:00:24+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: ok, so, can I update those tasks 
including the estimated time there? Just to make things easy for da
2011-05-24 11:00:29+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-05-24 11:00:43+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-24 11:00:45+0000 <antoviaque> and ok for #56 : )
2011-05-24 11:00:48+0000 <antoviaque> 46
2011-05-24 11:00:58+0000 <rogerio> ok, thanks
2011-05-24 11:01:02+0000 <antoviaque> I'll let you update the task too
2011-05-24 11:01:14+0000 <antoviaque> put the time too - this way we'll remember
2011-05-24 11:01:24+0000 <rogerio> ok
2011-05-24 11:02:00+0000 <da1> rogerio: #46 you estimate at 0.5 day too ?
2011-05-24 11:02:19+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: how much is 4hs task? (price)   
I'm in doubt yet about about our agreement, I'm sorry
2011-05-24 11:02:40+0000 <rogerio> da1: let me see
2011-05-24 11:03:17+0000 <da1> rogerio:  we agreed on 300 per day so 0.5 day is 
150
2011-05-24 11:03:46+0000 <rogerio> da1: ok, thanks
2011-05-24 11:03:53+0000 <da1> your first day was actually at 325 (for the two 
first half a day tasks)
2011-05-24 11:03:57+0000 <da1> ok ?
2011-05-24 11:04:05+0000 <rogerio> da1: ok
2011-05-24 11:04:45+0000 <rogerio> da1: about the #46, I thing is also a .5 day 
task
2011-05-24 11:04:50+0000 <rogerio> thing = think
2011-05-24 11:04:54+0000 <da1> oki
2011-05-24 11:05:08+0000 <da1> i let you update that on the ticket then :)
2011-05-24 11:05:21+0000 <rogerio> ok, :)
2011-05-24 11:06:42+0000 <rogerio> updated
2011-05-24 11:06:53+0000 <rogerio> >>> Issue #46 has been updated by Rogério 
Hilbert. 
2011-05-24 11:07:00+0000 <rogerio> >>> Status changed from Confirmed to In 
progress
2011-05-24 11:07:05+0000 <rogerio> >>> Assigned to set to Rogério Hilbert
2011-05-24 11:07:06+0000 <antoviaque> perfect : )
2011-05-24 11:07:07+0000 <rogerio> >>> Estimated time set to 4.00
2011-05-24 11:07:21+0000 <antoviaque> thanks, all updated fine!
2011-05-24 11:07:41+0000 <rogerio> but I'll work with this task tonight
2011-05-24 11:07:48+0000 * antoviaque ravishes at the thought of the ticket 
following the beautiful workflow : )
2011-05-24 11:07:58+0000 <da1> hahaha
2011-05-24 11:07:59+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2011-05-24 11:09:08+0000 <da1> antoviaque: for tomorrow' lesson, i'm currently 
working on a few slides to describe game dev worflows
2011-05-24 11:09:18+0000 <da1> i must say that yours is a big inspiration
2011-05-24 11:09:21+0000 <antoviaque> ohhhh
2011-05-24 11:09:22+0000 <da1> :p
2011-05-24 11:09:31+0000 <da1> you want some royalties ?
2011-05-24 11:09:31+0000 * antoviaque very very happy
2011-05-24 11:10:03+0000 <antoviaque> Ah, it's a free software workflow, you 
just have to put the credits & license ;p
2011-05-24 11:10:08+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah
2011-05-24 11:10:12+0000 <da1> :)
2011-05-24 11:11:41+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: unfortunatelly I must leave
2011-05-24 11:11:55+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: is there any one more thing you 
want to tell me?
2011-05-24 11:12:09+0000 <antoviaque> rogerio: nope, all fine : )
2011-05-24 11:12:21+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for coming before your day of 
work! : )
2011-05-24 11:12:53+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: no problem. thank you Xavier
2011-05-24 11:13:05+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-05-24 11:13:06+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: have a nice day
2011-05-24 11:13:09+0000 <rogerio> da1: have a nice day too
2011-05-24 11:13:10+0000 <antoviaque> you too!
2011-05-24 11:13:19+0000 <da1> you too rogerio
2011-05-24 12:39:20+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-24 12:39:24+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, ping =]
2011-05-24 12:39:26+0000 <romulo> good morning
2011-05-24 12:55:26+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-05-24 13:00:02+0000 <antoviaque> hi romulo
2011-05-24 13:00:30+0000 <antoviaque> back from late lunch
2011-05-24 13:00:53+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, hi there
2011-05-24 13:01:13+0000 <antoviaque> : )
2011-05-24 13:01:18+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, i have a problem about my ticket 
:(
2011-05-24 13:01:23+0000 <antoviaque> oh?
2011-05-24 13:01:52+0000 <romulo> It is not complete, and it needs reviewing. 
Im going to post a patch so Loic can take a look and give me some instructions 
and i need tartarugafeliz to talk about the templates
2011-05-24 13:02:27+0000 <romulo> only Yahoo Email was able to handle the html 
emails since they had some css on them, i can fix that but i dont think i will 
be able to make overlay items (like the arrow icons on invitation)
2011-05-24 13:03:02+0000 <romulo> so we have two options here. 1) I extended 
this ticket a bit more, 2) I jump to something else and mark this as failure 
(or continue to work on it on background). Up to you =]
2011-05-24 13:04:24+0000 <romulo> I have a patch sitting here and i got the 
invitation emails to send, but the other emails still need some work (not the 
templates)
2011-05-24 13:04:58+0000 <antoviaque> if you explain a bit more the unexpected 
issues you faced, we can see to reevaluate the task to extend a bit more
2011-05-24 13:05:24+0000 <antoviaque> what is preventing you to have the arrow 
icons, for example?
2011-05-24 13:05:46+0000 <romulo> I need to make the layouts in html using 
tables 
2011-05-24 13:06:09+0000 <romulo> in old html, i have no idea about how to make 
floating components
2011-05-24 13:06:59+0000 <antoviaque> for which mockup is it?
2011-05-24 13:07:03+0000 <romulo> invitation
2011-05-24 13:07:57+0000 <romulo> also, in the emails folder, there are missing 
mockups. And the fonts, like i said in the ticket, dont match (by size) the 
ones exported by tartarugafeliz. All i could judge was that she exported them 
smaller.
2011-05-24 13:09:00+0000 <romulo> in emails/publish there is a missing 
template/mockup (only data is there)
2011-05-24 13:11:44+0000 <antoviaque> for the HTML, did you try to build table 
structures with colspan attributes ? 
http://www.quackit.com/html/tutorial/html_layouts.cfm
2011-05-24 13:12:05+0000 <antoviaque> this brings old memories, didn't use that 
in a lot of years ;p
2011-05-24 13:13:01+0000 <antoviaque> for the fonts and missing mockups, I'll 
let you see with tartaruga - I'll ask her to come here
2011-05-24 13:13:12+0000 <romulo> thanks
2011-05-24 13:13:53+0000 <romulo> I dont see how colspan solve the "floating" 
problem
2011-05-24 13:14:35+0000 <antoviaque> witch table layouts you dn't use floats - 
this is a CSS concept, since you can't use it you have to forget it :/
2011-05-24 13:15:13+0000 <romulo> exactly =P
2011-05-24 13:15:20+0000 <antoviaque> it's just that you build a table, and 
adapt the number of cells that you show on each row to the number and size of 
the elements that you have to display
2011-05-24 13:15:23+0000 <romulo> i forgot it, im doing with it =P
2011-05-24 13:15:32+0000 <romulo> without*
2011-05-24 13:15:46+0000 <romulo> check the files i sent on the ticket. They 
have in each folder a template.html
2011-05-24 13:16:17+0000 <romulo> this is how it looks for me (but it looks 
totally different in each mailer, with gmail ignoring fonts and bg, and yahoo 
ignoring css attributes)
2011-05-24 13:17:12+0000 <antoviaque> which link from the ticket?
2011-05-24 13:17:23+0000 <romulo> the solution is to make it in html only, 
using only tables, but then i need to be sure about the font sizes and the 
ticket estimate
2011-05-24 13:17:26+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, one second
2011-05-24 13:17:53+0000 <romulo> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47
2011-05-24 13:18:09+0000 <romulo> my last comment, has "I uploaded the file ..."
2011-05-24 13:18:47+0000 <antoviaque> for the upper arrow you'd have to recut 
images (or probably assemble the upper button, the logo and the arrow in one 
image)
2011-05-24 13:19:11+0000 <antoviaque> but for the second one, do you see how 
the example 1 from the link I gave above allows you to do it?
2011-05-24 13:19:55+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: yep - how long do you estimate 
for the task, including the table-only HTML ?
2011-05-24 13:21:07+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, to answer that, i need to talk 
with Loic and tartarugafeliz first =]
2011-05-24 13:21:16+0000 <antoviaque> alright : )
2011-05-24 13:21:28+0000 <romulo> i need to be sure my implementation is the 
right way to go
2011-05-24 13:21:40+0000 <romulo> otherwise i will have to re-start (again) and 
it will cost more and more time
2011-05-24 13:21:46+0000 <romulo> So i'm trying to be safe here.
2011-05-24 13:21:54+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I understand - good precaution 
actually
2011-05-24 13:23:17+0000 <antoviaque> alright - can you just make sure we on 
this before the evening? (GMT)
2011-05-24 13:23:29+0000 <antoviaque> if tartaruga and dachary login of course
2011-05-24 13:24:07+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-24 13:24:35+0000 <antoviaque> hi tartarugafeliz : )
2011-05-24 13:24:38+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-24 13:24:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello
2011-05-24 13:24:45+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah
2011-05-24 13:24:52+0000 <antoviaque> (03:23:30 PM) antoviaque: if tartaruga 
and dachary login of course
2011-05-24 13:24:57+0000 <antoviaque> I'm so good ;p
2011-05-24 13:25:29+0000 <romulo> :D
2011-05-24 13:25:33+0000 <romulo> woot
2011-05-24 13:27:14+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, the fonts you specified on 
the email instructions dont match the ones in the mockups. Are the mockups 
exported smaller?
2011-05-24 13:28:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what doesn't match?
2011-05-24 13:28:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the size?
2011-05-24 13:28:42+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: while you're here : ) 
When do you think you'll be able to take care of the remaining issues with the 
design? (cf tickets)
2011-05-24 13:28:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> this friday
2011-05-24 13:28:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm back to one day a week
2011-05-24 13:29:11+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: would it be ok with you?
2011-05-24 13:31:18+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, the size doesnt match
2011-05-24 13:31:52+0000 <romulo> check my attached files @ 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47 and also look for the "publish" folder, 
there is a mockup missing there.
2011-05-24 13:32:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on all of them, or just one?
2011-05-24 13:32:32+0000 <romulo> all of them
2011-05-24 13:33:49+0000 <romulo> dachary, 
http://tickets.farsides.com/attachments/37/final_notifier.patch -> initial 
implementation of the discussed GameNotifier. Can you review it and give me 
some thoughs?
2011-05-24 13:34:04+0000 <romulo> brb
2011-05-24 13:34:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I don't understand those files, 
sorry...
2011-05-24 13:34:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm checking the illustrators files
2011-05-24 13:36:48+0000 <antoviaque> romulo: best to give direct link when 
referencing files, it avoids confusions : )
2011-05-24 13:38:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the sizes are perfect with the 
instructions, I'll export the screens again
2011-05-24 13:42:22+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, you got emails.zip?
2011-05-24 13:42:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ?
2011-05-24 13:42:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what's that?
2011-05-24 13:42:51+0000 <romulo> one sec
2011-05-24 13:43:22+0000 <romulo> tartarugafeliz, 
http://www.castorgroup.net/cardstories/emails.zip
2011-05-24 13:44:13+0000 <romulo> open it, ckeck publish/ folder (lacks mockup) 
and check each folder template.html for the sides
2011-05-24 13:44:25+0000 <romulo> sizes*
2011-05-24 13:47:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> Hi romulo, the sizes of the fonts are 
ok, the problem is the space between the lines
2011-05-24 13:47:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> can you control this or its not 
possible?
2011-05-24 13:47:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> because then, I can give you the 
values too
2011-05-24 13:47:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but I can only work on this on friday
2011-05-24 13:48:41+0000 <romulo> i will try to do it without the values, but i 
think its possible (not promising anything =P)
2011-05-24 13:48:54+0000 <romulo> the space between the lines is a mess in 
those html files
2011-05-24 13:51:56+0000 <romulo> anyway, if the code is right, we can use 
template html files and then edit them by hand later, without changing 
functionality
2011-05-24 13:51:59+0000 <romulo> oh :P
2011-05-24 13:52:02+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-05-24 13:52:20+0000 <romulo> * tartarugafeliz has quit (Ping timeout: 248 
seconds)
2011-05-24 13:52:20+0000 <romulo> <romulo> anyway, if the code is right, we can 
use template html files and then edit them by hand later, without changing 
functionality
2011-05-24 13:52:21+0000 <romulo> <romulo> oh :P
2011-05-24 13:52:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahh ok, thank you! :)
2011-05-24 14:01:05+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, up to loic now =]
2011-05-24 14:01:11+0000 <antoviaque> : )
2011-05-24 14:03:13+0000 dachary1 (dachary1) is now online
2011-05-24 14:12:38+0000 <romulo> dachary1, alive?
2011-05-24 14:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> He's probably busy with other stuff IRL - 
I'm sure he'll say hello later on : )
2011-05-24 14:13:23+0000 <romulo> ok =]
2011-05-24 15:01:18+0000 <dachary1> romulo: not yet
2011-05-24 15:41:04+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-05-24 15:43:21+0000 <antoviaque> Marius & Iulian have arranged three 
coders interviews, between 4:30pm and 7pm tomorrow (GMT+2). If you want to be 
in the chat to discuss a bit with them, I'll make them come here after the 
Skype interview
2011-05-24 15:43:39+0000 <antoviaque> You can even plan out tough questions ;p
2011-05-24 16:51:33+0000 <romulo> dachary, try to review my patch today please 
=]
2011-05-24 16:57:24+0000 <dachary> romulo: which patch ? 
2011-05-24 16:59:06+0000 <romulo> dachary, 
http://tickets.farsides.com/attachments/37/final_notifier.patch -> initial 
implementation of the discussed GameNotifier. Can you review it and give me 
some thoughs?
2011-05-24 17:02:07+0000 <dachary> romulo: which ticket is it ? 
2011-05-24 17:04:39+0000 <romulo> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47
2011-05-24 17:05:32+0000 <romulo> i gotta go, will be back soon
2011-05-24 17:05:40+0000 <romulo> leave comments on the ticket itself please
2011-05-24 17:05:42+0000 <romulo> =]
2011-05-24 17:06:08+0000 <dachary> I will do as you command.
2011-05-24 17:08:31+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47#note-4
2011-05-24 17:09:35+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: how much time dedicated to this 
patch so far ? 
2011-05-24 17:09:57+0000 <dachary> I'd like to know where I stand regarding our 
bet ;-)
2011-05-24 17:10:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah
2011-05-24 17:11:12+0000 <antoviaque> right now it's at 1.5 days, likely to 
become 2/2.5 after your review : )
2011-05-24 17:11:32+0000 <antoviaque> and I think romulo spent more time than 
that on it
2011-05-24 17:11:41+0000 <antoviaque> so looks like you're going to win ;p
2011-05-24 17:12:08+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: 
2011-05-24 17:15:47+0000 <dachary> :-) He does react well to hints. I'm 
positively impressed.
2011-05-24 17:16:45+0000 <antoviaque> Cool : )
2011-05-24 17:17:34+0000 <antoviaque> We still have to talk about the 
preparation of questions
2011-05-24 17:18:20+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I have to run to a diner : )
2011-05-24 17:18:23+0000 <antoviaque> *miam*
2011-05-24 17:18:31+0000 <antoviaque> see you later/tomorrow!
2011-05-24 17:31:29+0000 <dachary> :-)
2011-05-24 19:25:02+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: Hi
2011-05-24 19:25:33+0000 <rogerio> antoviaque: I did a git pull yesterday
2011-05-24 19:26:00+0000 <rogerio> I cleared the cookies of the browser
2011-05-24 19:26:12+0000 <rogerio> and I can't start new game anymore
2011-05-24 19:29:03+0000 <rogerio> but I can start a new game using the 
querystring player_id
2011-05-24 19:36:11+0000 romulo-phone (romulo-phone) is now online
2011-05-24 19:37:07+0000 <romulo-phone> dachary, yo 
2011-05-24 19:37:52+0000 <romulo-phone> why make notifier a pollable?
2011-05-24 19:47:36+0000 <romulo-phone> antoviaque, ping
2011-05-24 19:55:03+0000 <dachary> romulo-phone: because that's what you're 
trying to do 
2011-05-24 19:55:46+0000 <dachary> the code you wrote in services.py is 
essentially a notification mechanism, which is the purpose of pollable
2011-05-24 19:56:28+0000 <romulo-phone> I dont get it. im just calling it, 
injecting information
2011-05-24 19:57:05+0000 <romulo-phone> hmmm
2011-05-24 19:58:59+0000 <romulo-phone> i though it was just sending 
notifications and waiting for answers. i mean im not interested in the deturn
2011-05-24 20:04:08+0000 <dachary> romulo-phone: btw def get_game(self, 
game_id): could be replaced by self.games.get(game_id, None)
2011-05-24 20:04:48+0000 <romulo-phone> :D
2011-05-24 20:06:35+0000 <dachary> inherit from pollable in service.py and 
instead of calling set_notifier, you call poll and hook the gamenotifier 
function in the callback
2011-05-24 20:07:06+0000 <dachary> and in service.py instead of calling
2011-05-24 20:07:08+0000 <dachary> self.gameNotifier.game_state_changed(args, 
game.get_id())
2011-05-24 20:07:10+0000 <dachary> you call
2011-05-24 20:07:56+0000 <romulo-phone> ahhhh now i get it
2011-05-24 20:07:58+0000 <dachary> self.touch
2011-05-24 20:08:09+0000 <dachary> :-)
2011-05-24 20:08:32+0000 <romulo-phone> i was thibking you suggested me to put 
GameNotifier as pollable
2011-05-24 20:09:02+0000 <dachary> it's a good architectural decision to make 
CardstoriesService pollable. I allows any number of other object to listen to it
2011-05-24 20:09:10+0000 <romulo-phone> now it makes sense
2011-05-24 20:09:14+0000 <dachary> romulo-phone: is this what I said ? 
2011-05-24 20:09:25+0000 <romulo-phone> yeah
2011-05-24 20:09:44+0000 <romulo-phone> definately
2011-05-24 20:10:07+0000 <dachary> I apologize for my mistake
2011-05-24 20:10:45+0000 <romulo-phone> np
2011-05-24 20:11:10+0000 <dachary> romulo-phone: but I did not say that
2011-05-24 20:11:13+0000 <romulo-phone> btw what you think about loading email 
templates from file?
2011-05-24 20:11:15+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/47#note-4
2011-05-24 20:11:58+0000 <dachary> "it" is about services, not notifier
2011-05-24 20:12:02+0000 <romulo-phone> i though you meant notifier on "it"
2011-05-24 20:12:21+0000 <romulo-phone> noticed now
2011-05-24 20:12:45+0000 <dachary> Please don't make me check for my mistakes 
by saying that you're sure I made a mistake before you're actually sure. 
2011-05-24 20:17:05+0000 <romulo-phone> i didnt said i was sure
2011-05-24 20:28:35+0000 <dachary> 10:08:34 PM) romulo-phone: i was thibking 
you suggested me to put GameNotifier as pollable
2011-05-24 20:28:41+0000 <dachary> (10:09:15 PM) dachary: romulo-phone: is this 
what I said ? 
2011-05-24 20:28:48+0000 <dachary> (10:09:45 PM) romulo-phone: definately
2011-05-24 20:29:19+0000 <romulo-phone> timing error only
2011-05-24 20:29:46+0000 <romulo-phone> [17:08] (dachary) it's a good 
architectural decision to make CardstoriesService pollable. I allows any number 
of other object to listen to it
2011-05-24 20:30:11+0000 <romulo-phone> thats what definately was for
2011-05-24 20:30:32+0000 <romulo-phone> im @ phone its slow to type
2011-05-24 20:30:44+0000 <dachary> in this case you could add (re architectural 
decision) : definitely to avoid the confusion
2011-05-24 20:31:01+0000 <dachary> it's not a big deal anyway
2011-05-24 20:32:21+0000 <romulo-phone> its already hard to type few characters 
you can imagine this much. its just that is not the bigdeal it seems to be
2011-05-24 20:36:59+0000 <romulo-phone> im going home. be back soon hopefully
2011-05-24 20:37:17+0000 <romulo-phone> oh and [17:10] (romulo-phone) btw what 
you think about loading email templates from file?
2011-05-24 21:33:47+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online
2011-05-24 21:33:49+0000 <romulo> im back
2011-05-24 21:33:53+0000 <romulo> dachary, antoviaque ping
2011-05-24 21:34:04+0000 <dachary> pong
2011-05-24 21:34:53+0000 <romulo> ok, you saw my message about templates?
2011-05-24 21:38:32+0000 <dachary> yes I did
2011-05-24 21:38:56+0000 <dachary> I have no opinion
2011-05-24 21:39:15+0000 <dachary> (which is a good sign ;-)
2011-05-24 21:40:32+0000 <romulo> well i will leave the html templates on the 
directory and load them directly. If there is any problem we can just push it 
to code =P
2011-05-24 21:56:26+0000 <romulo> brb
2011-05-24 23:54:48+0000 rogerio_ (rogerio_) is now online
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