Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-06-26.
2011-06-26 07:34:06+0000 <dachary> morning 2011-06-26 07:34:24+0000 <blanchard> hello 2011-06-26 07:38:09+0000 * dachary initializing the dev-2.0 branch of cardstories 2011-06-26 07:48:59+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://farsides.com/members/arbrandes/activity/948/ 2011-06-26 07:49:22+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: we had very good discussions with arbrandes yesterday 2011-06-26 07:49:44+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I have some backlog to read : ) 2011-06-26 07:51:16+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: re "Because the mockups are still being actively discussed at http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/94 it is a good idea to delay the implementation until things are clarified." 2011-06-26 07:53:05+0000 <antoviaque> => we need to have a first version of this ready by the RMLL - do you see that happening if you don't work on it today? 2011-06-26 07:53:34+0000 <antoviaque> I think there has been a good work done on it, it's time to start to see how it looks imho 2011-06-26 07:53:42+0000 <antoviaque> but reading your comments on the ticket, wait 2011-06-26 07:56:21+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I did not realize there was a deadline for a live version of #94 2011-06-26 07:57:16+0000 <antoviaque> well the priority is to improve the accessibility for the RMLL deadline, and playtest there - if we go to the RMLL without the board, we won't really be able to playtest that no? 2011-06-26 07:57:48+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm actually going to work on the implementation of #94 because what I intend to do is necessary for both the chat and the list of connected players. 2011-06-26 07:58:14+0000 <dachary> When I said "implementation" I really meant CSS/HTML integration. 2011-06-26 07:59:09+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ok for me - the chat is an important component of the new interface yup 2011-06-26 07:59:15+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I understand the rationale of having #94 ready by the RMLL. 2011-06-26 07:59:31+0000 <antoviaque> you think it will be feasible? 2011-06-26 08:00:10+0000 <dachary> I don't think it will happen unless I work more than 2 days. 2011-06-26 08:00:46+0000 <dachary> And assuming the mockups are final in a few days at most. 2011-06-26 08:02:09+0000 <antoviaque> what do you think you'll need to be able to match this deadline? how much time from you (and the other devs)? 2011-06-26 08:02:24+0000 <dachary> There will be things done but I doubt it will be ready for playtesting. 2011-06-26 08:05:10+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it highly depends on what you're trying to achieve. I don't know exactly what you need to do useful playtesting and what you don't. For instance is animating the cards as described at all steps required for proper playtesting ? Does crude image slicing and poor integration allow for playtesting ? etc. 2011-06-26 08:05:45+0000 <antoviaque> yep, we can probably try to see the essential parts 2011-06-26 08:06:43+0000 <antoviaque> the animations are important, since they explain what's going on - but "crude image slicing and poor integration" is ok 2011-06-26 08:06:46+0000 <dachary> my hunch is that there is not enough time because you can only show in public something that has been known to work for at least a few weeks unless you want trouble ;-) 2011-06-26 08:07:20+0000 <antoviaque> we want a bit of trouble - not a huge mess but it's playtest so some bugs are ok imho 2011-06-26 08:08:10+0000 <antoviaque> what will be the most important thing to test is if the new UI, centered around the board, solves the accessibility issue or not 2011-06-26 08:08:36+0000 <antoviaque> way before communication or marketing constraints in terms of priority 2011-06-26 08:11:44+0000 <dachary> my opinion (I did not think it thru, it's a gut feeling ;-) is that we want to show cardstories as it it and invite dev to the making of the 2.0 by showing the mockups and work in progress. I don't see playtests. 2011-06-26 08:12:42+0000 <antoviaque> we won't get a better chance to do intensive playtests in a long time 2011-06-26 08:12:53+0000 <dachary> We can discuss this when I come over because I tend to be over pessimistic, as you very well know ;-) 2011-06-26 08:14:00+0000 <antoviaque> in my experience, conventions suck for communication (you only reach few people - lots of energy and money for not much) - the main interest (by far) is the intensive playtests you get to do there 2011-06-26 08:14:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-06-26 08:16:11+0000 <dachary> I hear you. But starting a new development cycle two weeks before the first live demo is more than rushing. I don't want you to have too high hopes. 2011-06-26 08:17:23+0000 <antoviaque> I understand - I guess it's my fault, for not speeding things up more than I did before 2011-06-26 08:19:35+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it's good that you raised this topic though. How about that : I will do what I planned to do today because if I don't that will cause trouble with chris and prevent him from completing his work. Besides I spent hours yesterday figuring out how to properly implement #180 and I'm really pleased with the idea I had ;-) 2011-06-26 08:20:19+0000 <dachary> tuesday next week I will do my best to start CSS/HTML integration, as I was supposed to do originaly today. 2011-06-26 08:21:09+0000 <dachary> That's a course of action that help your agenda no matter what happens. And we can discuss how realistic is the playtest deadline in the meantime. 2011-06-26 08:21:14+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: does that work for you ? 2011-06-26 08:21:15+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good to me - I see the rationale for Chris yup 2011-06-26 08:21:29+0000 <antoviaque> thanks : ) 2011-06-26 08:22:50+0000 <dachary> ok. I'll come over after a short stop and the datacenter to reboot a machine. 2011-06-26 08:22:56+0000 <antoviaque> oki! 2011-06-26 08:23:04+0000 <dachary> s/and/at/ 2011-06-26 08:28:00+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: how do you like the idea of showing only the author card on the result board ? Maybe you already thought of that ;-) 2011-06-26 08:28:19+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: I'm replying to your comments right now : ) 2011-06-26 08:28:37+0000 <dachary> instead of having a "why" link that explains the complex board, you can have a "more info" link that shows the other player cards & the votes 2011-06-26 08:28:39+0000 <antoviaque> it's minimalist approach is interesting, but I think it would remove a good part of the fun 2011-06-26 08:28:40+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ok -) 2011-06-26 08:29:27+0000 <antoviaque> it's really cool to get to see who voted for what and chose which card - some times much more than knowing which card was the author's 2011-06-26 08:29:52+0000 <dachary> yes, but it's an expert view 2011-06-26 08:29:59+0000 <dachary> it requires skill to interpret 2011-06-26 08:30:12+0000 <dachary> maybe you can toggle the "complete" and "minimal" view 2011-06-26 08:30:52+0000 <antoviaque> maybe yep - but then I would only implement the minimal view if the new way of presenting the complete results don't work well 2011-06-26 08:32:20+0000 <dachary> that makes sense 2011-06-26 08:32:59+0000 <antoviaque> I think we add a lot of elements to understand things here - the hope is that the positioning of the cards will help the players to realize intuitively what happened (positioning of the picked cards that echoes the previous steps in the game, and the envelope to show the votes visually) 2011-06-26 08:33:10+0000 <antoviaque> but it's true that it could remain too much for a new player 2011-06-26 08:33:50+0000 <antoviaque> then it's true that would be a good way to simplify even more, even if we lose a bit of the fun there 2011-06-26 08:34:34+0000 <dachary> I thought about something else but did not write it down : I was playing with my sister in law and her husband the day before yesterday. It occured to me that although we play in real time, we don't sit in front of the game the whole time, we never do. Even though there are less than 30 sec between actions, they went to roast the chicken, pick up a glass of champagne etc. They would only see a small portion of the animations in the current setup. 2011-06-26 08:35:08+0000 <antoviaque> once you know the game, yep, it's not a problem 2011-06-26 08:35:20+0000 <dachary> it was their first time. 2011-06-26 08:35:47+0000 <antoviaque> hmm, interesting 2011-06-26 08:36:09+0000 <dachary> They did not stay in front of the screen staring at the page and waiting for something to happen. They went away and came back when I told them. 2011-06-26 08:36:16+0000 <antoviaque> because when I played the board game, during the first "fake" round, the players were really focused to try to understand 2011-06-26 08:36:33+0000 <dachary> It struck me as obvious : nobody stares at a screen for more than 5 secondds. 2011-06-26 08:37:23+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: there is a zap attitude in the screen approach that probably is different from the zen attitude when you're sitting with friends on a couch ;-) 2011-06-26 08:37:23+0000 <antoviaque> yup - maybe we'll need some kind of signal to alert players they should return to their screen, and click some kind of "ok button to resume the game 2011-06-26 08:37:36+0000 * dachary influenced by sncf marketing :-D 2011-06-26 08:37:40+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-06-26 08:38:06+0000 <antoviaque> something that we should definitely pay attention to in playtests in any case, yep 2011-06-26 08:39:03+0000 <dachary> off I go 2011-06-26 08:49:46+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-06-26 09:16:44+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-26 09:17:13+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online 2011-06-26 09:39:04+0000 <dachary> on my way, visit to the data center completed (power failure) 2011-06-26 09:39:20+0000 <antoviaque> ok :) 2011-06-26 09:48:27+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-06-26 10:14:59+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-26 10:43:03+0000 * dachary done reviewing 2011-06-26 12:00:36+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 12:00:58+0000 <arbrandes> Good morning, Vietnam! 2011-06-26 12:01:06+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, is the 4pm meeting up? 2011-06-26 12:41:24+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: time ok for you regarding scrum meetings ? http://papillon.peacefrogs.net/poll/Cz88fY1309091419/ 2011-06-26 12:42:28+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yep - but how do you differentiate the days if the availability is not the same every day? 2011-06-26 12:42:54+0000 <blanchard1> i think it will become to complicated if we define different times for different days 2011-06-26 12:43:12+0000 <blanchard1> i'd like to see first if we find a way to have it always at the same time 2011-06-26 12:43:16+0000 <antoviaque> ah yes 2011-06-26 12:43:37+0000 <blanchard1> i mean nobody will remember on what time the meeting is if it varies 2011-06-26 12:43:38+0000 <antoviaque> so it is the a minima where people are available every day? 2011-06-26 12:43:46+0000 <blanchard1> yes 2011-06-26 12:43:56+0000 <antoviaque> so why the days of the week then? 2011-06-26 12:44:47+0000 <blanchard1> to have an idea i this a minima applies to all days of if some people see it only possible on one day or two 2011-06-26 12:46:03+0000 <antoviaque> ok then 2011-06-26 13:24:40+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: blanchard1: dachary: tartarugafeliz: meeting in 30 minutes : ) 2011-06-26 13:24:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D ready 2011-06-26 13:25:29+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: are there some 121 available on buddypress ? I was looking for an example but could'nt find 2011-06-26 13:25:53+0000 <antoviaque> yep, in project management I think 2011-06-26 13:26:47+0000 <blanchard1> did not find 2011-06-26 13:26:53+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-26 13:34:48+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-26 13:58:45+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 13:59:32+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : ) 2011-06-26 14:02:07+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, hey man 2011-06-26 14:02:07+0000 <arbrandes> am I late? 2011-06-26 14:02:08+0000 <dachary> ready 2011-06-26 14:02:14+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: no you're not ;-) 2011-06-26 14:02:21+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: blanchard: blanchard1: dachary: tartarugafeliz: let's start the meeting? 2011-06-26 14:02:21+0000 <arbrandes> good :) 2011-06-26 14:02:28+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, nope, right on time : ) 2011-06-26 14:02:28+0000 <blanchard1> hi there 2011-06-26 14:02:30+0000 <dachary> YES 2011-06-26 14:02:34+0000 <dachary> meeting good 2011-06-26 14:02:36+0000 <dachary> YES 2011-06-26 14:02:47+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-06-26 14:02:50+0000 <blanchard1> ok dachary, loud and clear :) 2011-06-26 14:02:52+0000 * dachary happy because finished a patch 30 seconds before the meeting :-) 2011-06-26 14:02:52+0000 <antoviaque> ok ok : ) 2011-06-26 14:03:00+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: start meeting 2011-06-26 14:03:01+0000 * eve gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles 2011-06-26 14:03:31+0000 <antoviaque> ok a quick list of the things to discuss, so that you can add your own items while I do this : ) 2011-06-26 14:04:05+0000 <antoviaque> * Scrum: daily meeting, sprints 2011-06-26 14:04:05+0000 <antoviaque> * Support hours 2011-06-26 14:04:05+0000 <antoviaque> * New requirements 2011-06-26 14:04:05+0000 <antoviaque> * More games (weekly game, farsides game) 2011-06-26 14:04:05+0000 <antoviaque> * More players 2011-06-26 14:04:06+0000 <antoviaque> * New requirement on comments 2011-06-26 14:04:21+0000 <antoviaque> and 2011-06-26 14:04:28+0000 <antoviaque> * Increasing the use of the buddypress 2011-06-26 14:04:45+0000 <antoviaque> Each of those should be fairly quick hopefully : ) 2011-06-26 14:04:59+0000 <antoviaque> So, let's start with the biggest one - scrum 2011-06-26 14:05:19+0000 <dachary> I've never used or learnt scrum 2011-06-26 14:05:21+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: topic SCRUM 2011-06-26 14:05:21+0000 <eve> Current Topic: SCRUM 2011-06-26 14:05:40+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard, since you're the most experienced, do you want to describe a bit? : ) 2011-06-26 14:05:58+0000 <blanchard1> haha 2011-06-26 14:06:32+0000 <blanchard1> suggestion : start light, use a few scum tools to give a bit more structure to the weekly work 2011-06-26 14:06:48+0000 <blanchard1> then if it's going fine, we can add other layers if we feel the need 2011-06-26 14:06:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> what is scum? 2011-06-26 14:06:57+0000 <arbrandes> (I can help here too, if needed. I have some experience) 2011-06-26 14:07:04+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: cool : ) 2011-06-26 14:07:09+0000 <antoviaque> will be helpful 2011-06-26 14:07:14+0000 <blanchard1> thx arbrandes :) 2011-06-26 14:07:28+0000 <arbrandes> I thoroughly recommend this: http://www.redminebacklogs.net/ 2011-06-26 14:07:46+0000 <arbrandes> That is, if we're going to use the "corkboard" layer 2011-06-26 14:08:05+0000 <arbrandes> (Also, because we already run redmine) 2011-06-26 14:08:54+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: scrum is just a few tools that help to plan a project a little bit each week instead of a big initial plan that usually fails 2011-06-26 14:09:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> like the one we use for the tickets? 2011-06-26 14:09:23+0000 <blanchard1> tools to structure the work of the week without having to do long meetings, and with each one responsible for what he does 2011-06-26 14:09:26+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, looked into it but two issues: 1) the version of redmine is not good, would need a (slightly painful) upgrade and especially 2) from what I've seen it would break the workflow that we have rather than going through incremental changes (but I'd be interested to try it out more concretely) 2011-06-26 14:09:34+0000 <blanchard1> yes that's part of it tartarugafeliz 2011-06-26 14:10:19+0000 <blanchard1> so for us 2011-06-26 14:10:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh ok thanks 2011-06-26 14:10:46+0000 <blanchard1> i'd suggest a daily quick meeting 2011-06-26 14:10:50+0000 <blanchard1> called scrum meeting 2011-06-26 14:11:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, well, if we could somehow install it somewhere, I find it extremely useful because of the "backlogs" layer, which in my opinion, is the first layer of scrum Farsides should investigate using. 2011-06-26 14:11:17+0000 <blanchard1> a way for each one to say where he stands, and be able to schedule some meetings with other people or Xav if needed 2011-06-26 14:11:45+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: we do use backlogs through the tickets status - what we don't do is to structure those backlogs per sprint 2011-06-26 14:11:58+0000 <blanchard1> then depending of the recurring wok of each one, you could attend some of the meetings during the week not all 2011-06-26 14:12:03+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: but again I'd be interested to play a bit with it to see how it could work 2011-06-26 14:12:18+0000 <blanchard1> the first goal would be to find a time that fits all od us 2011-06-26 14:12:20+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, oh, ok. The important thing is to have a clear priority of what should be done first. 2011-06-26 14:12:22+0000 <blanchard1> of 2011-06-26 14:12:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, agreed 2011-06-26 14:12:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll be here every day in the morning between 9 and 12 2011-06-26 14:13:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and on sundays and wednesdays I'll be full day 2011-06-26 14:13:08+0000 <blanchard1> so i pepared this so that you can say when you're available most of the days : 2011-06-26 14:13:10+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: kewl :D 2011-06-26 14:13:17+0000 <blanchard1> http://papillon.peacefrogs.net/poll/Cz88fY1309091419/ 2011-06-26 14:13:22+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, and to separate what is a "user story" from a "technical task", which I have found to be extremely helpful in planning a roadmap. 2011-06-26 14:13:53+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: agreed 2011-06-26 14:14:06+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, that's one of the things I liked about scrum 2011-06-26 14:14:30+0000 <arbrandes> Ideally, we'd have tickets of the type "User Story" which are never assigned to anybody but the project leaders. 2011-06-26 14:14:36+0000 <arbrandes> These would be split up into "tasks" 2011-06-26 14:14:43+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: tartarugafeliz dachary arbrandes can you fill the poll please ? 2011-06-26 14:14:55+0000 <arbrandes> doing it 2011-06-26 14:14:56+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: already done :D 2011-06-26 14:15:02+0000 <blanchard1> second thing i recommend would be to define the working days :) 2011-06-26 14:15:09+0000 <dachary> blanchard1: done 2011-06-26 14:15:34+0000 <blanchard1> for me the best for this would be monday to friday 2011-06-26 14:15:35+0000 <dachary> my actual availability will vary a lot, except on sundays 2011-06-26 14:15:41+0000 <dachary> the most likely hour is 7pm 2011-06-26 14:15:43+0000 <dachary> for me 2011-06-26 14:15:51+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: for isntance what would be the days for you ? 2011-06-26 14:16:16+0000 <antoviaque> me I'd like to have the week-end day consecutive : ) 2011-06-26 14:16:22+0000 <antoviaque> days : ) 2011-06-26 14:16:58+0000 <antoviaque> so either sunday to thursday, monday to friday or tuesday to saturday... 2011-06-26 14:18:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for me it would be wednesday to sunday 2011-06-26 14:19:02+0000 <antoviaque> ok, for the poll we'll also need answers from absent people, so I guess you can try to reach a common ground during the week blanchard1? 2011-06-26 14:19:29+0000 <blanchard1> until now, it goes like this : http://papillon.peacefrogs.net/poll/Cz88fY1309091419/ 2011-06-26 14:19:38+0000 <blanchard1> already not a lot of common hours 2011-06-26 14:20:31+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed all contractors to fill http://papillon.peacefrogs.net/poll/Cz88fY1309091419/ for the time of the daily meeting during the week, and blanchard1 will get an agreement by the end of the week 2011-06-26 14:20:31+0000 <eve> Agreed: all contractors to fill http://papillon.peacefrogs.net/poll/Cz88fY1309091419/ for the time of the daily meeting during the week, and blanchard1 will get an agreement by the end of the week 2011-06-26 14:20:34+0000 <antoviaque> ok? 2011-06-26 14:21:27+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-26 14:21:43+0000 <blanchard1> ok 2011-06-26 14:22:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok, and the other part of scrum is to talk about the workflow, sprints etc, right? 2011-06-26 14:22:18+0000 <antoviaque> (and the tool too : ) ) 2011-06-26 14:22:26+0000 <blanchard1> what i would need is visibility antoviaque about the recurring wok of each one 2011-06-26 14:23:18+0000 <antoviaque> ah yes of course - for the recruitment we'll decide this week - we can't decide before arbrandes finishes his task for example :D 2011-06-26 14:23:29+0000 <blanchard1> of course :) 2011-06-26 14:23:45+0000 * dachary agrees 2011-06-26 14:24:13+0000 <antoviaque> I also need to have a good talk with rogerio and romulo, I haven't been very happy about their presence lately 2011-06-26 14:24:40+0000 <arbrandes> (heh, sorry about that, it's been kinda slow going. Please see a description of what I've done so far here: http://farsides.com/members/arbrandes/activity/948/) 2011-06-26 14:24:58+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, seen : ) 2011-06-26 14:24:58+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I tried it and it worked for me :-) 2011-06-26 14:25:16+0000 <antoviaque> very good actually, from what I saw this morning 2011-06-26 14:25:24+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, thanks for trying it out 2011-06-26 14:25:45+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks, but as I wrote, there's more to be done in order to consider this finished 2011-06-26 14:25:47+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: and no worries for the delay, we planned to take the decision this week so you're on track 2011-06-26 14:26:04+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: if we defined the working days from monday to friday (meaning the days when there is a meeting), would it be compatible with you working between wednesday and sunday ? 2011-06-26 14:26:10+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ok :) 2011-06-26 14:26:16+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: definitely - I don't know if my post was showing it enough, but I was very happy of what I saw : ) 2011-06-26 14:26:48+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, oh, I hadn't seen your post, for some reason I'm not getting notifications from the groups. 2011-06-26 14:26:51+0000 * arbrandes reading 2011-06-26 14:27:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can change my days of work 2011-06-26 14:27:17+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: did you change the setting to "all emails"? 2011-06-26 14:27:24+0000 <tartarugafeliz> whenever you guys decide is good for me 2011-06-26 14:27:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, duh, my bad, you replied recently and I hadn't checked my email 2011-06-26 14:27:59+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: no worries at all :) 2011-06-26 14:29:05+0000 <antoviaque> (04:22:11 PM) antoviaque: ok, and the other part of scrum is to talk about the workflow, sprints etc, right? 2011-06-26 14:29:12+0000 <dachary> I can work every days except saturdays and mondays. I prefer sundays. And I'd rather not work on fridays. 2011-06-26 14:29:44+0000 <dachary> My prefered days are therefore, in order of appearance : Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. 2011-06-26 14:29:57+0000 <blanchard1> thx dachary :) 2011-06-26 14:30:00+0000 <dachary> yw 2011-06-26 14:30:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very organized person 2011-06-26 14:30:25+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-06-26 14:30:28+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-06-26 14:30:35+0000 <blanchard1> for the workflow, i think that following sprints would be interesting yep 2011-06-26 14:30:58+0000 <arbrandes> 1-week or 2-week sprints? 2011-06-26 14:31:10+0000 <blanchard1> for this the first step i see would be a pre-spring meeting to agree on the stories 2011-06-26 14:31:11+0000 <antoviaque> 2-week sprints would be good to try imho 2011-06-26 14:31:14+0000 <blanchard1> yep 2011-06-26 14:31:18+0000 <arbrandes> I like 2-week sprints better, yes 2011-06-26 14:31:24+0000 <antoviaque> it kind of corresponds to our production rythm right now 2011-06-26 14:32:02+0000 <antoviaque> so blanchard1 you try to see how to put it in place, with comments from arbrandes, me and whoever wants? 2011-06-26 14:32:16+0000 <blanchard1> sure 2011-06-26 14:32:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1 cool, thanks! 2011-06-26 14:32:39+0000 <dachary> \o/ 2011-06-26 14:32:41+0000 <blanchard1> when would be the next sprint you think ? 2011-06-26 14:32:43+0000 * dachary cheerleader 2011-06-26 14:32:48+0000 <arbrandes> lol, dachary 2011-06-26 14:33:01+0000 <antoviaque> maybe for the RMLL/board? 2011-06-26 14:33:10+0000 <dachary> /o/ \o\ |o| \o/ /o\ ! 2011-06-26 14:33:24+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agreed blanchard1 try to see how to put it in place, with comments from arbrandes, me and whoever wants 2011-06-26 14:33:24+0000 <eve> Agreed: blanchard1 try to see how to put it in place, with comments from arbrandes, me and whoever wants 2011-06-26 14:33:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed David to find out which days are going to be the "open" days of the studio (ie when the daily meetings occur) 2011-06-26 14:33:45+0000 <eve> Agreed: David to find out which days are going to be the "open" days of the studio (ie when the daily meetings occur) 2011-06-26 14:33:59+0000 <antoviaque> And what about the support hours? 2011-06-26 14:34:40+0000 <antoviaque> It would help if we could define hours where anyone could expect to find support in the chat (ie at least david, Loic or me?) 2011-06-26 14:34:49+0000 <antoviaque> no? 2011-06-26 14:34:55+0000 <blanchard1> yes indeed 2011-06-26 14:35:03+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, if you like, later we can discuss some of the things I've seen that make scrum work, but specially, the things that make it NOT work. :) 2011-06-26 14:35:14+0000 <blanchard1> you can add that antoviaque 2011-06-26 14:35:20+0000 <antoviaque> at least me it would make me feel less guilty when I hear the buzzzz from my bed in the middle of the night and don't get up to answer : ) 2011-06-26 14:35:28+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: i'd like that, yep :) 2011-06-26 14:35:31+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-06-26 14:35:35+0000 <dachary> /o/ \o\ |o| \o/ /o\ ! 2011-06-26 14:36:13+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed arbrandes to help david organise the new scrum processes/tools 2011-06-26 14:36:13+0000 <eve> Agreed: arbrandes to help david organise the new scrum processes/tools 2011-06-26 14:36:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed david finds out the best hours for chat support 2011-06-26 14:36:33+0000 <eve> Agreed: david finds out the best hours for chat support 2011-06-26 14:36:43+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed david makes the coffeed every day 2011-06-26 14:36:43+0000 <eve> Agreed: david makes the coffeed every day 2011-06-26 14:36:50+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-06-26 14:36:52+0000 <arbrandes> rofl 2011-06-26 14:37:09+0000 <antoviaque> ok, all done for scrum? 2011-06-26 14:37:36+0000 <blanchard1> for me yep 2011-06-26 14:37:41+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-06-26 14:37:53+0000 <blanchard1> arbrandes: we discuss scrum after this meeting ? 2011-06-26 14:37:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I want coffee 2011-06-26 14:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> let's try to tackle the others quickly then, only 20 minutes left :D 2011-06-26 14:38:08+0000 * dachary want coffee 2011-06-26 14:38:12+0000 * dachary finished his beer 2011-06-26 14:38:13+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: topic New requirement 2011-06-26 14:38:13+0000 <eve> Current Topic: New requirement 2011-06-26 14:38:16+0000 <dachary> /o/ \o\ |o| \o/ /o\ ! 2011-06-26 14:38:21+0000 <dachary> NEW TOPIC ! 2011-06-26 14:38:44+0000 * dachary makes a lot of noise and no contribution 2011-06-26 14:38:47+0000 <antoviaque> This is just to warn, on top of the message on the buddypress, that there is a new requirement : ) 2011-06-26 14:38:54+0000 <antoviaque> about commenting the code 2011-06-26 14:39:06+0000 <arbrandes> (we're allowed to drink beer during meetings? awesome, be back in a second, lol ;) 2011-06-26 14:39:08+0000 * dachary bows in silence 2011-06-26 14:39:10+0000 <antoviaque> http://wiki.farsides.com/w/Requirements_and_deliverables_for_patch_submission 2011-06-26 14:39:15+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: yes ! 2011-06-26 14:39:20+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahaha, doing the same here :D 2011-06-26 14:39:23+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: you're mean 2011-06-26 14:39:30+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: special for you :D 2011-06-26 14:39:54+0000 <antoviaque> if no objections ;p I'll move to the next topic heheh 2011-06-26 14:40:02+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-06-26 14:40:06+0000 <arbrandes> Heh, not just for him... no coder I've seen likes to comment code (although I agree it's necessary) 2011-06-26 14:40:09+0000 <dachary> I have no objection. 2011-06-26 14:40:16+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: exactly ! 2011-06-26 14:40:19+0000 * dachary hugs arbrandes 2011-06-26 14:40:35+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ah but to read them we all like ;p 2011-06-26 14:40:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, hehehe, yes, that what I meant 2011-06-26 14:41:01+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2011-06-26 14:41:04+0000 <arbrandes> *that's 2011-06-26 14:41:11+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok for you this requirement btw? 2011-06-26 14:41:23+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, yes 2011-06-26 14:41:27+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-06-26 14:41:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: topic More games 2011-06-26 14:41:35+0000 <eve> Current Topic: More games 2011-06-26 14:41:50+0000 <antoviaque> Something else I thought on my mountain is that we should play more games : ) 2011-06-26 14:42:19+0000 <antoviaque> when we are working through the web we lack some parts of the social interactions, which playing a bit more could probably help compensate 2011-06-26 14:42:47+0000 <antoviaque> I was mayb thinking of a weekly (though non-mandatory) game session, or something like that 2011-06-26 14:42:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, everyone visiting my farm nOW! 2011-06-26 14:42:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-06-26 14:42:59+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahhaha 2011-06-26 14:43:01+0000 <dachary> I played games friday with my sister in law and her husband. We had a good time. Two games. They found it was real nice graphics. 2011-06-26 14:43:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> card stories? 2011-06-26 14:43:23+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: online games? 2011-06-26 14:43:23+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: yes, what else ? 2011-06-26 14:43:27+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, lololol 2011-06-26 14:43:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-06-26 14:43:34+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: :p 2011-06-26 14:43:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a game with very nice graphics cmon! 2011-06-26 14:43:39+0000 * dachary wonders if there is another game on earth 2011-06-26 14:43:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahhahahahaah 2011-06-26 14:43:52+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: no, there is not, don't believe the rumors 2011-06-26 14:43:59+0000 <arbrandes> hahahhh 2011-06-26 14:44:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but seriously now, what do you guys like to play? 2011-06-26 14:44:10+0000 <antoviaque> so what do you think? would you like something like that? 2011-06-26 14:44:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ME!! :D 2011-06-26 14:44:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes! I would like! 2011-06-26 14:44:27+0000 <arbrandes> I'd love it 2011-06-26 14:44:28+0000 <blanchard1> yep :) 2011-06-26 14:44:31+0000 <arbrandes> I'm up for any kind of game. 2011-06-26 14:44:39+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ah lots, I can adapt to the majority's opinion : ) 2011-06-26 14:44:42+0000 <arbrandes> Board games, Steam games, role playing games, whetever 2011-06-26 14:44:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes, do you play the sims? 2011-06-26 14:45:01+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ONLINE games :D 2011-06-26 14:45:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> there's an online for facebook no 2011-06-26 14:45:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> w 2011-06-26 14:45:14+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, I played the first one, but then I discovered it was exactly the same as my real life, so I stopped 2011-06-26 14:45:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> we can play 2011-06-26 14:45:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahahhaahah 2011-06-26 14:45:27+0000 <antoviaque> and multiplayer - if we all play solo there is little interest ahah 2011-06-26 14:45:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes: I'm always milionaire on the sims⦠I don't play clean like I do in my real lfe, I cheat a lot hahaahha 2011-06-26 14:46:07+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: the trick tartarugafeliz teached me about sims, is that it's cool to cheat ;p 2011-06-26 14:46:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very cool! 2011-06-26 14:46:25+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, ahhhhhhh, I see.... :) You like God mode :P 2011-06-26 14:46:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahah yeeesss 2011-06-26 14:46:35+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: for the games themselves we can make a list, and then chose one every week 2011-06-26 14:46:52+0000 <antoviaque> I can put in my todo to start a list, and then let you all add what you want 2011-06-26 14:46:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok 2011-06-26 14:47:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> conquer club is out of question! 2011-06-26 14:47:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :P 2011-06-26 14:47:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed Xavier starts a wiki page with a list of games we could play, posts it so that everyone can add, and finds the date for the first game session 2011-06-26 14:47:36+0000 <eve> Agreed: Xavier starts a wiki page with a list of games we could play, posts it so that everyone can add, and finds the date for the first game session 2011-06-26 14:47:43+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ah DAMN! 2011-06-26 14:47:44+0000 <arbrandes> I don't know if you guys like FPSs, but Left 4 Dead 2 is awesome for playing together with 4 people cooperatively. 2011-06-26 14:47:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I like it! 2011-06-26 14:47:57+0000 * blanchard1 inviting tartarugafeliz to a conquerclub campaign right away 2011-06-26 14:48:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> tartarugafeliz: invintes blanchard to decorate his new home at the sims! :D 2011-06-26 14:48:37+0000 <dachary> :-) 2011-06-26 14:48:41+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: at your own risk then :) 2011-06-26 14:48:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> are we playing club penguin? :P 2011-06-26 14:49:01+0000 <antoviaque> and the other game I thought about is about earning XP (and collectibles for tartarugafeliz;)) when we do work on the project, to reward more the level of contribution and involvement 2011-06-26 14:49:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh I like this one very much 2011-06-26 14:49:25+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-06-26 14:49:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can design the prizes 2011-06-26 14:49:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and people can print and put on their offices 2011-06-26 14:49:35+0000 <blanchard1> when dachary does the cheerleader he would earn some XP ? 2011-06-26 14:49:38+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-06-26 14:49:46+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: I'm afraid so :( 2011-06-26 14:49:46+0000 <dachary> ... 2011-06-26 14:49:46+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-06-26 14:49:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> lots! :D ahahhaahha 2011-06-26 14:50:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can take care of the collectibles if you allow me 2011-06-26 14:50:30+0000 <antoviaque> that one is more of an idea atm - I'll probably try to put together a few measures like the chat lines or the tickets closed when/if I get some time 2011-06-26 14:50:40+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: of course :D 2011-06-26 14:50:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can help! 2011-06-26 14:50:47+0000 <blanchard1> antoviaque: it's a cool idea 2011-06-26 14:50:47+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: yeyy!!! 2011-06-26 14:50:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I like this kind of things 2011-06-26 14:50:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha 2011-06-26 14:50:57+0000 <antoviaque> miam miam xp :D 2011-06-26 14:51:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> can we put this with our profiles on farsides webpage? 2011-06-26 14:51:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it would be cool 2011-06-26 14:51:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> for when people wants to see the team 2011-06-26 14:51:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> they would see the prizes we get already 2011-06-26 14:51:51+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed Xavier will try to put together a few measures for farsides game when/if he get some time (like the chat lines or the tickets closed, etc.) 2011-06-26 14:51:51+0000 <eve> Agreed: Xavier will try to put together a few measures for farsides game when/if he get some time (like the chat lines or the tickets closed, etc.) 2011-06-26 14:52:01+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: yup, good idea 2011-06-26 14:52:10+0000 <antoviaque> this could make the "team" page 2011-06-26 14:52:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yep 2011-06-26 14:52:35+0000 <arbrandes> cool 2011-06-26 14:52:50+0000 <antoviaque> ok, next topic since there is 7 minutes left : ) 2011-06-26 14:52:57+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: topic More players 2011-06-26 14:52:57+0000 <eve> Current Topic: More players 2011-06-26 14:53:14+0000 <antoviaque> This one is more remote right now, since we need to finish solving the accessibility issue first 2011-06-26 14:53:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> we're almost there 2011-06-26 14:53:25+0000 <antoviaque> but I thought it would be good to start giving it some thoughts 2011-06-26 14:53:29+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-06-26 14:53:40+0000 <antoviaque> it shouldn't be long now before we can start advertizing 2011-06-26 14:54:27+0000 <antoviaque> so here it's more about keeping it in mind over the next few weeks - to try to start thinking about ways to spread the game, when we reach that stage 2011-06-26 14:54:44+0000 <antoviaque> I'll think about it too, and we can share thoughts on that in a couple or so weeks 2011-06-26 14:55:06+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good? 2011-06-26 14:55:13+0000 <arbrandes> I've unwittingly started already, sorry. ;) Hopefully it won't spread TOO quick. 2011-06-26 14:55:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, I'll think about it 2011-06-26 14:55:29+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaha 2011-06-26 14:55:32+0000 <blanchard1> sounds good antoviaque 2011-06-26 14:55:34+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahahah, yep, it's ok to talk about it and show the url already ;p 2011-06-26 14:56:11+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, roger that 2011-06-26 14:56:17+0000 <antoviaque> as long as we don't get too many visitors now it's really fine 2011-06-26 14:56:42+0000 <antoviaque> (since with the game in its current state, when it's not people that we know a bit, we "burn" them) 2011-06-26 14:56:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> true 2011-06-26 14:57:08+0000 <arbrandes> agreed 2011-06-26 14:57:11+0000 <antoviaque> but we'll have to find good strategies to reach a different type of scale: news websites, social networks, etc. 2011-06-26 14:57:29+0000 <antoviaque> ok, 2 minutes for the last one : ) 2011-06-26 14:57:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: More buddypress :p 2011-06-26 14:57:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Excuse me? 2011-06-26 14:57:44+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: topic More buddypress :p 2011-06-26 14:57:44+0000 <eve> Current Topic: More buddypress :p 2011-06-26 14:57:47+0000 <arbrandes> social networks: for that, it would be nice to have Facebook integration. Who's working on that, I wonder? :P 2011-06-26 14:57:55+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: don't know :D 2011-06-26 14:58:13+0000 <antoviaque> do you use the buddypress much? do you have troubles with it? 2011-06-26 14:58:38+0000 <arbrandes> I have a complaint regarding groups; 2011-06-26 14:58:46+0000 <arbrandes> whenever I post, I get a ton of error messages 2011-06-26 14:58:50+0000 <antoviaque> because it often happens that some posts are left unanswered for some time, so I wonder if there is something that is a pain in the ass there, or if it's just because we focused a lot on the chat 2011-06-26 14:59:10+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, true - I'm supposed to fix that for some time, my bad 2011-06-26 14:59:20+0000 <arbrandes> "whenever I post", meaning the two times I posted, lol 2011-06-26 14:59:22+0000 <blanchard1> it's alreday there -> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/80 2011-06-26 14:59:37+0000 <arbrandes> Also, it would be nice to be able to edit posts, if possible 2011-06-26 14:59:43+0000 <dachary> +1 2011-06-26 14:59:48+0000 <arbrandes> I hate typos and thinkos :) 2011-06-26 15:00:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> agreed! 2011-06-26 15:00:07+0000 <arbrandes> (my own, I mean) 2011-06-26 15:00:30+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: maybe there is a plugin for that, I didn't look 2011-06-26 15:01:08+0000 <arbrandes> Cool 2011-06-26 15:01:29+0000 <antoviaque> globally, is there anything that prevents from using it, or makes it a pain to integrate in the daily workflow? 2011-06-26 15:01:54+0000 <dachary> nope, I have a rss news feed that's fairly easy to use 2011-06-26 15:02:10+0000 <arbrandes> Well, from my point of view, it's just that using the chat is a big temptation: supposedly, people answer immediately. :) 2011-06-26 15:02:13+0000 <antoviaque> because I'm thinking that it would be good to use it rather than the chat on some topics, it would be easier to follow for those who aren't always on the chat 2011-06-26 15:02:18+0000 <dachary> and whenever I post a report I summarize on the blog posts 2011-06-26 15:02:24+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahaha, exacctly ;p 2011-06-26 15:02:57+0000 <arbrandes> However, for the status report I made yesterday, clearly the chat was not the right place. 2011-06-26 15:03:03+0000 <arbrandes> So I'm on the boat. 2011-06-26 15:03:05+0000 <blanchard1> i'm not sure. I like using it, but i feel that the ratio of answers that is a lot lower than when i send a mail. I guess it's normal. But it's tempting to rather send mails or go to the chat to be sure to have an anwser 2011-06-26 15:03:27+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: yes, it's because there isn't much attention on the buddypress today 2011-06-26 15:03:33+0000 <antoviaque> so we work around it, and it's not good 2011-06-26 15:04:34+0000 <antoviaque> that's why I was asking - if it's just a question of including it more in the workflow it's ok - if it was a real problem with the tool itself it would have called for more drastic measures 2011-06-26 15:05:01+0000 <antoviaque> but let's keep it for now then (and try to solve the errors that it shows, at least ;p) 2011-06-26 15:05:14+0000 <blanchard1> no big issue with the tool on my side, but a need to make it part of the workflow, yes 2011-06-26 15:05:28+0000 <antoviaque> does everyone agrees to have a look at it at least once a day, and try to participate a bit more to each other's conversations? 2011-06-26 15:05:45+0000 <arbrandes> I don't see a real problem with the tool. It's just a matter of using it for the right things. 2011-06-26 15:06:05+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: agreed Xavier looks at the buddypress errors (and edition of messages if possible) 2011-06-26 15:06:05+0000 <eve> Agreed: Xavier looks at the buddypress errors (and edition of messages if possible) 2011-06-26 15:06:13+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: exactly 2011-06-26 15:07:06+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: dachary: tartarugafeliz: arbrandes: does everyone agrees to have a look at it at least once a day, and try to participate a bit more to each other's conversations? 2011-06-26 15:07:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> agreed 2011-06-26 15:07:16+0000 * dachary agrees 2011-06-26 15:07:17+0000 <blanchard1> yes 2011-06-26 15:07:36+0000 <arbrandes> agreed 2011-06-26 15:07:45+0000 <antoviaque> cool : ) thanks a lot! 2011-06-26 15:07:57+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I think we're over : ) 2011-06-26 15:08:09+0000 <antoviaque> 8 minutes late though :/ 2011-06-26 15:08:11+0000 <antoviaque> :0 2011-06-26 15:08:16+0000 <antoviaque> anything else? 2011-06-26 15:08:17+0000 <arbrandes> This would be a good time to play a game ;) 2011-06-26 15:08:25+0000 <blanchard1> not so bad antoviaque we've seen worse 2011-06-26 15:08:30+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: agreed - any suggestion? 2011-06-26 15:08:31+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-06-26 15:08:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> !!!! 2011-06-26 15:08:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: end meeting 2011-06-26 15:08:37+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2011-06-26 15:08:37+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/420255 2011-06-26 15:09:24+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ah, I meant post-meetings will be good to play games when we have decided on which ones 2011-06-26 15:09:37+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, definitely : ) 2011-06-26 15:09:37+0000 <arbrandes> Especialy Sunday meetings :) 2011-06-26 15:09:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I just finished the flyer for the RSML event! :D And its good cause we can already use the illustration for the first page of the website, blanchard1 you just need to change the text, cause its not so good.. 2011-06-26 15:09:40+0000 <arbrandes> *especially 2011-06-26 15:09:49+0000 <antoviaque> yes, true, sundays are good for this ;p 2011-06-26 15:10:19+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: RMLL 2011-06-26 15:10:22+0000 <arbrandes> Especially Sunday meetings with *beer*! 2011-06-26 15:10:28+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: ohhhh 2011-06-26 15:10:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha 2011-06-26 15:10:34+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: want to seeeeeeeeeeeee 2011-06-26 15:10:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> RSML 2011-06-26 15:10:42+0000 <dachary> MRLL ? 2011-06-26 15:10:47+0000 <dachary> MUMBLREL ? 2011-06-26 15:10:47+0000 <blanchard1> BRLLLLL 2011-06-26 15:10:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> here https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/flyer/flyer.jpg 2011-06-26 15:11:00+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-06-26 15:11:20+0000 <arbrandes> whoa, awesome 2011-06-26 15:11:37+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: very kewl :D 2011-06-26 15:11:39+0000 <antoviaque> gratz! 2011-06-26 15:11:46+0000 <antoviaque> will make a very good flyer 2011-06-26 15:11:57+0000 <dachary> CUTE 2011-06-26 15:12:00+0000 <dachary> I LIKE IT 2011-06-26 15:12:06+0000 <dachary> ... 2011-06-26 15:12:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D 2011-06-26 15:12:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very cuuuteee 2011-06-26 15:12:30+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard1: found the way - no xp when writting in caps ;p 2011-06-26 15:12:49+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahhahaha 2011-06-26 15:13:04+0000 <dachary> /o/ \o\ |o| \o/ /o\ ! 2011-06-26 15:13:37+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-06-26 16:15:41+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: fyi I've edited /etc/cardstories/plugins/mail/mail.xml to put cardstories.org instead, and [email protected] for the email returns 2011-06-26 16:16:13+0000 * dachary on a bug 2011-06-26 16:24:35+0000 * dachary found the bug & fixing 2011-06-26 16:24:53+0000 <antoviaque> \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ 2011-06-26 16:25:06+0000 * antoviaque earns 5 xp :D 2011-06-26 16:46:08+0000 * dachary earns 105842 xp 2011-06-26 16:46:32+0000 <dachary> eve_: dachary xp += MAX_LONG_INT 2011-06-26 16:46:32+0000 <eve> dachary: I don't know about dachary xp 2011-06-26 16:54:07+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: dachary xp += 1 :D 2011-06-26 16:54:07+0000 <eve> antoviaque: I don't know about dachary xp 2011-06-26 17:18:31+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=301&; 2011-06-26 17:19:48+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm in two games at the same time and I'm not notified that something is going on in the other game. 2011-06-26 17:23:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when I play in solo mode I can never pass the vote phase 2011-06-26 17:23:24+0000 <antoviaque> vote 2011-06-26 17:28:46+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-06-26 17:29:24+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=303&; 2011-06-26 17:37:30+0000 <antoviaque> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=305&; 2011-06-26 17:42:16+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: right ! this is anew bug :-( 2011-06-26 17:42:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> http://cardstories.org/?game_id=311&; 2011-06-26 17:42:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :( sorry! 2011-06-26 17:52:20+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: thanks for spotting it ;-) 2011-06-26 17:56:59+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: [email protected] for the email returns won't help with regard to spam I'm afraid. 2011-06-26 17:57:15+0000 <antoviaque> true 2011-06-26 17:57:32+0000 <dachary> when I played on friday all mails went straight to spam box already ;-) 2011-06-26 18:21:13+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now offline 2011-06-26 18:22:56+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 18:28:59+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-26 18:35:29+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: re - everything alright with the dataroom? 2011-06-26 18:37:01+0000 <dachary> yes 2011-06-26 18:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: just had the playtest with new players, the remarks globally confirm the orientation (chat+board), and highlight another issue with the lobby (which doesn't show the right games, ie the ones on which attention is required) 2011-06-26 18:38:58+0000 <arbrandes> How's the chat going to work? Per-game? 2011-06-26 18:39:19+0000 <antoviaque> when we have enough players, yes, likely 2011-06-26 18:39:59+0000 <antoviaque> but to start it would be a global room - to give back the atmosphere of the irc chan and be able to welcome/play with new players 2011-06-26 18:40:10+0000 <antoviaque> but obviously this doesn't scale well ;p 2011-06-26 18:40:12+0000 <arbrandes> Makes sense 2011-06-26 18:42:17+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-06-26 18:42:34+0000 <arbrandes_> Hehehhe, yeah, talk about having 10.000 people in the same chat room 2011-06-26 18:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> it also really showed how much of a mess it is to play today when you don't know your way - was a good good mess ;p 2011-06-26 18:42:53+0000 <arbrandes_> #ubuntu is already nuts with 1500 2011-06-26 18:43:04+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, yep, I imagine the 10K players being newbies lost in how to play the game ;p 2011-06-26 18:43:32+0000 <antoviaque> yup, impossible to read with that many people 2011-06-26 18:44:14+0000 <arbrandes_> Where'd you find the new players? 2011-06-26 18:44:21+0000 <arbrandes_> How many were there? 2011-06-26 18:55:30+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: two today - two friends who accepted the torture : ) 2011-06-26 18:56:07+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 19:19:37+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-26 19:19:39+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-06-26 19:30:29+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 19:45:32+0000 <dachary> back 2011-06-26 19:51:51+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, do you a have a few minutes, man? I'd like to talk about how I ended up writing the djangoauth plugin, and what this means for security (there is none). 2011-06-26 19:52:19+0000 <dachary> sure. I'm fighting with a routing problem but I'm all yours when I'm done ;-) 2011-06-26 19:53:20+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, cool, nudge me when/if you solve it. Or if you need help. :) 2011-06-26 19:54:24+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: ok :-) 2011-06-26 20:36:48+0000 <dachary> resolved 2011-06-26 20:36:57+0000 * dachary curses at network problems 2011-06-26 20:37:22+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I'll get a drink and I'm back. relaxed and happy to discuss pleasant things with you. 2011-06-26 20:40:09+0000 <dachary> back 2011-06-26 21:04:31+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: blanchard arbrandes : beware. You must shift-f5 http://cardstori.es/ or you will get an error. I upgraded to the latest version, including todays work. 2011-06-26 21:18:36+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I had another idea for RMLL 2011-06-26 21:19:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: these conventions are also a great place to work together ;-) 2011-06-26 21:19:20+0000 <antoviaque> uh, it's true, we could do a sprint there 2011-06-26 21:20:30+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-06-26 21:20:32+0000 <antoviaque> the best would still be to have something new to playtest - but that gives another option 2011-06-26 21:20:40+0000 <dachary> there will be *tons* of geeks 2011-06-26 21:20:55+0000 <antoviaque> but then it's not JGP anymore 2011-06-26 21:21:46+0000 <dachary> JGP ? 2011-06-26 21:22:04+0000 <antoviaque> journees grand public = they try to talk to non-geeks 2011-06-26 21:22:16+0000 <antoviaque> but there would be a dark room we could squat ;p 2011-06-26 21:22:16+0000 <dachary> ah 2011-06-26 21:22:30+0000 <dachary> just an idea 2011-06-26 21:22:45+0000 <dachary> 13th is good for me 2011-06-26 21:22:51+0000 <antoviaque> let's see what we can have by then when we discuss on Tuesday - but I agree, it's something to think about one way or another 2011-06-26 21:23:09+0000 <dachary> just one more idea 2011-06-26 21:23:10+0000 <antoviaque> the roundtable you mean? 2011-06-26 21:23:16+0000 <dachary> in case we're short of things to do ;-) 2011-06-26 21:23:18+0000 <antoviaque> (13th) 2011-06-26 21:23:20+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-06-26 21:23:32+0000 <dachary> I'm free 13th all day 2011-06-26 21:23:38+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-06-26 21:23:39+0000 <dachary> busy 12th all day 2011-06-26 21:23:40+0000 <antoviaque> that's not what is missing lately - playtests are good to increase the size of the TODO list ;p 2011-06-26 21:23:52+0000 <antoviaque> yup, 13th is perfect 2011-06-26 21:24:12+0000 <antoviaque> the main confs will have passed, less competition for attention I think : ) 2011-06-26 21:24:43+0000 <antoviaque> ok, back to watching the 3rd season of breaking bad (rewatching to prepare for the 4th season :p) 2011-06-26 21:24:48+0000 <antoviaque> bbl 2011-06-26 21:30:26+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-06-26 21:57:30+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2011-06-26 22:10:40+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-06-26 22:40:42+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-06-26 22:54:01+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2011-06-26 23:23:16+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-06-26 23:35:28+0000 romulo (romulo) is now online 2011-06-26 23:35:34+0000 <romulo> antoviaque, dachary, double ping
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