Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-12.
2011-07-12 08:16:25+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 09:33:31+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-12 09:45:09+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 10:19:47+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-12 12:19:17+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 12:19:24+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : ) 2011-07-12 12:19:41+0000 <arbrandes> Xavier, long time no see!! How's it going, man? 2011-07-12 12:19:43+0000 * antoviaque is glad to finally have a good internet connection :D 2011-07-12 12:19:53+0000 <antoviaque> very well!! 2011-07-12 12:20:05+0000 <antoviaque> it's very good here : ) 2011-07-12 12:20:15+0000 <arbrandes> I hear the kids love Cardstories! :) 2011-07-12 12:20:27+0000 <antoviaque> as I was saying in the buddypress post, it was really inbteresting to have all this feedback 2011-07-12 12:20:33+0000 <antoviaque> yup, they LOVE it :D 2011-07-12 12:20:57+0000 <antoviaque> the younger ones don't necessarily understand all the rules, but they all play nonetheless ;p 2011-07-12 12:21:21+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, awesome... How about the octopus costume? 2011-07-12 12:21:30+0000 <antoviaque> the older ones, between 8-12, are really good at it actually 2011-07-12 12:21:40+0000 <antoviaque> ohhh - that was quite a sensation ahahah 2011-07-12 12:21:49+0000 <antoviaque> it scared a few geeks hehe :p 2011-07-12 12:21:54+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahah 2011-07-12 12:22:04+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 12:22:08+0000 <antoviaque> it was good this week-end, we put some good mess ;p 2011-07-12 12:22:11+0000 <antoviaque> hey dachary! 2011-07-12 12:22:17+0000 <arbrandes> hey dach 2011-07-12 12:24:52+0000 <antoviaque> we'll need to upload the videos - it's on the small camera that david brought 2011-07-12 12:25:06+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: what about you? how is it going? 2011-07-12 12:25:32+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, I'm getting started on Facebook, now that the initial django bugs are done with. :) 2011-07-12 12:25:42+0000 <arbrandes> Talked with dachary about it yesterday, a bit 2011-07-12 12:25:55+0000 <antoviaque> ah cool! dachary quickly told me about it yep 2011-07-12 12:26:16+0000 <arbrandes> I'm going to take the same approach as I did with registration: study the available libraries, and pick and choose a subset that works for us 2011-07-12 12:26:43+0000 <arbrandes> However... I still have some doubts on what exactly that subset is. 2011-07-12 12:27:00+0000 <antoviaque> I can imagine - the facebook world is quite a mess 2011-07-12 12:27:37+0000 <arbrandes> the current dilemma is this: dachary thinks that it's best to ask for the minimal set of permissions (and I would normally agree), but this minimal set of permissions do not give us an email! 2011-07-12 12:28:16+0000 <antoviaque> ah yep, we'll need the email ;p 2011-07-12 12:28:24+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-12 12:28:32+0000 <arbrandes> So without email, the only way the user could log in again would be through facebook 2011-07-12 12:28:39+0000 <antoviaque> yup, not good 2011-07-12 12:28:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> helloooo!! :D 2011-07-12 12:28:45+0000 <antoviaque> hi tartarugafeliz :D 2011-07-12 12:28:45+0000 <arbrandes> Hi tartaruga!! 2011-07-12 12:28:55+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: how is your inkscape conference? :p 2011-07-12 12:28:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> finally we have internet! 2011-07-12 12:28:57+0000 <arbrandes> Did you scare many geeks with your costume? :) 2011-07-12 12:29:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> a looot! :D 2011-07-12 12:29:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> the inkscape conference is over already 2011-07-12 12:29:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and it wasn't really good actually 2011-07-12 12:29:14+0000 <antoviaque> ?? 2011-07-12 12:29:19+0000 <antoviaque> 30 minutes long?! 2011-07-12 12:29:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it was really fast 2011-07-12 12:29:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and the guy did a very easy comic 2011-07-12 12:29:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> just with black lines 2011-07-12 12:29:40+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-12 12:29:41+0000 <arbrandes> Do you use inkscape regularly, tartarugafeliz ? I was trying it out the other day. 2011-07-12 12:29:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> but it was good to see that its possible to use, I just need to get used to it 2011-07-12 12:29:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes: no, I use illustrator 2011-07-12 12:30:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's why I came, I wanted to have a look 2011-07-12 12:30:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and antoviaque, xavier was here! 2011-07-12 12:30:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> he say hello 2011-07-12 12:30:23+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-12 12:30:25+0000 <antoviaque> antoviaque: oh cool! 2011-07-12 12:30:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: xavier is another xavier, not me ;p 2011-07-12 12:30:39+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhhhhhhh 2011-07-12 12:30:44+0000 <arbrandes> hahahah, you people confuse me 2011-07-12 12:30:59+0000 <antoviaque> a guy who stayed a lot on the booth during the week-end, really interested in what we do :) 2011-07-12 12:31:12+0000 <arbrandes> awesome :) 2011-07-12 12:31:14+0000 <antoviaque> I think he's going to come over on irc sometime, I gave him the info 2011-07-12 12:31:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, he likes us 2011-07-12 12:32:39+0000 <arbrandes> 2 more conference days, is that it? 2011-07-12 12:32:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap 2011-07-12 12:33:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm going to watch one about video editing now 2011-07-12 12:33:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> free cinema! everything free ahahhaah 2011-07-12 12:33:24+0000 <arbrandes> hehehehe 2011-07-12 12:33:42+0000 <arbrandes> free's always good, even if it's not :) 2011-07-12 12:37:12+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-12 12:37:50+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 12:38:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> antoviaque: my account on facebook is unavailable!!! :O 2011-07-12 12:38:24+0000 <antoviaque> unavailable? 2011-07-12 12:38:28+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap 2011-07-12 12:38:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> maybe they got angry that I said that google+ is better hahahaha 2011-07-12 12:38:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and that's what's messing my blog 2011-07-12 12:38:59+0000 <antoviaque> what does it mean? because you connect from another ip maybe? 2011-07-12 12:39:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> nope 2011-07-12 12:39:08+0000 <antoviaque> oh 2011-07-12 12:39:51+0000 <antoviaque> mine works (got your invite btw arbrandes :) ) 2011-07-12 12:40:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: wnat a google+ invite? 2011-07-12 12:40:02+0000 <antoviaque> want 2011-07-12 12:40:27+0000 <arbrandes> Sure, been curious to try it out! :) 2011-07-12 12:41:52+0000 <arbrandes> I love this one, by the way: http://i.imgur.com/SrmIX.jpg (scumbag google, lol) 2011-07-12 12:42:42+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahah 2011-07-12 12:43:46+0000 <antoviaque> uh, they removed the invite feature - let me see if the other way still works 2011-07-12 12:43:54+0000 <antoviaque> what email do you want me to try to add? 2011-07-12 12:44:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm leaving this place 2011-07-12 12:44:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> they're treating me like shit because I have a mac 2011-07-12 12:44:26+0000 <arbrandes> [email protected] 2011-07-12 12:44:32+0000 <arbrandes> lol, tartarugafeliz 2011-07-12 12:44:42+0000 <tartarugafeliz> brb 2011-07-12 12:46:29+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-12 12:49:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: tried - you should receive an email, hopefully following it will allow you to get access 2011-07-12 12:49:12+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, dude! :) 2011-07-12 12:49:45+0000 <antoviaque> try to see if it works though - since they closed the invites I'm not sure the trick still works ;p 2011-07-12 12:49:51+0000 <antoviaque> yw! 2011-07-12 12:51:19+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'm going to move to another conference - maybe finding dachary in his traducthon (translation of GPLv3 in French) 2011-07-12 12:51:24+0000 <antoviaque> brb 2011-07-12 12:51:28+0000 <dachary> hop 2011-07-12 12:51:29+0000 <arbrandes> later 2011-07-12 12:51:45+0000 <arbrandes> "traducthon", lol 2011-07-12 12:51:48+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-12 12:51:56+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: you're in room 3128? 2011-07-12 12:52:03+0000 <dachary> yes 2011-07-12 12:52:08+0000 <antoviaque> patio 2011-07-12 12:52:14+0000 <antoviaque> ok - I'm coming :) 2011-07-12 12:52:16+0000 <antoviaque> brb 2011-07-12 12:52:21+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now offline 2011-07-12 13:41:23+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 13:41:29+0000 <antoviaque> re 2011-07-12 13:42:02+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-12 13:42:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'm back! :) 2011-07-12 13:46:39+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-12 13:50:29+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, what would the user be able to do to consider #149 closed? (trying to transform it into a user story, hehehe) 2011-07-12 13:50:29+0000 <arbrandes> Is it just registration, and forget about facebook from there? (just talking about #149, for now) 2011-07-12 13:50:50+0000 <antoviaque> let me see 2011-07-12 13:52:00+0000 <arbrandes> This will directly affect what subset of FB's API will be used at first 2011-07-12 13:55:19+0000 <antoviaque> could be "A player who is also a Facebook user can connect to the game by clicking on the Facebook button // The player is able to connect either through his facebook account or by entering his email/password. If he connected first using his facebook account and later on want to connect using his email, he can use the "recover lost password" feature with his facebook email 2011-07-12 13:55:49+0000 <antoviaque> could probably be split in several stories, but it gives the spirit 2011-07-12 13:57:00+0000 <antoviaque> it avoids being too dependent on facebook, and tries to be as transparent as possible for the user 2011-07-12 13:57:30+0000 <antoviaque> but maybe you have something else in mind? I'm not sure what the technical constaints are, with the django plugins and al 2011-07-12 13:57:34+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ^ 2011-07-12 13:58:14+0000 <arbrandes> Looks excellent to me, thanks 2011-07-12 13:58:32+0000 <arbrandes> It's as good a start as any 2011-07-12 13:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> damn, almost no battery and no electrical plug in sight 2011-07-12 13:58:41+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-07-12 13:59:00+0000 <arbrandes> Will update the ticket with your story 2011-07-12 13:59:25+0000 <antoviaque> thanks arbrandes - curious to try it out : ) 2011-07-12 13:59:26+0000 <arbrandes> Ah, the elusive electrical outlet... :) 2011-07-12 13:59:49+0000 <antoviaque> yup - can't believe they still do classrooms with only 2 electrical plugs 2011-07-12 13:59:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, and then we can do Google+! Hahahah... It works really well, btw, thanks for the invite 2011-07-12 14:00:07+0000 * antoviaque thinks france still lives 50 years in the past :p 2011-07-12 14:00:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-12 14:00:16+0000 <antoviaque> between two evils... ;p 2011-07-12 14:00:25+0000 <arbrandes> My feelings exactly 2011-07-12 14:00:29+0000 <arbrandes> heheheh 2011-07-12 14:00:40+0000 <arbrandes> (about Google vs Facebook , not about France 50 years in the past, hehehe) 2011-07-12 14:00:42+0000 <antoviaque> but yep, if G+ keeps gaining traction like it does now, we'll seriously have to consider it 2011-07-12 14:00:48+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha - that too ;p 2011-07-12 14:00:59+0000 <arbrandes> 10 million users as of today 2011-07-12 14:01:03+0000 <arbrandes> 20 million predicted by the end of the month 2011-07-12 14:01:05+0000 <arbrandes> crazy growth 2011-07-12 14:01:20+0000 <antoviaque> small numbers compared to card stories when we launch :p 2011-07-12 14:01:35+0000 <arbrandes> May the Fates listen to you, my friend! 2011-07-12 14:01:39+0000 <antoviaque> hehe :D 2011-07-12 14:01:41+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-07-12 14:02:04+0000 <antoviaque> ok, if I suddenly disappear, it's that my battery died : ) 2011-07-12 14:02:29+0000 <arbrandes> roger, roger, I stand advised 2011-07-12 15:07:54+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-12 15:07:59+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 15:08:17+0000 <antoviaque> re! 2011-07-12 15:08:34+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 15:08:36+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: are you in the middle of something or do you have some time to discuss the sprint & scrum? 2011-07-12 15:08:56+0000 <dachary> oy 2011-07-12 15:09:15+0000 <antoviaque> with dachary we try to see how to organise the day tomorrow, to work on the integration of the board 2011-07-12 15:09:18+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I can discuss. I like discuss. Discuss is always good. 2011-07-12 15:09:22+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-07-12 15:09:43+0000 <antoviaque> ok then - I hope it's not too disruptive for you then : ) 2011-07-12 15:09:49+0000 * dachary browsing the tasks 2011-07-12 15:09:50+0000 <arbrandes> Go ahead, no worries. :) 2011-07-12 15:10:26+0000 <antoviaque> so, the idea is to do a very short sprint tomorrow (or the first day of a 2 weeks sprint, possibly) on the board integration 2011-07-12 15:10:27+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: hey 2011-07-12 15:10:42+0000 <mtyaka> hi dachary 2011-07-12 15:10:47+0000 <dachary> 2 weeks spring ? 2011-07-12 15:10:52+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: oh, hello - didn't see you in the list - glad to see you! 2011-07-12 15:11:01+0000 <arbrandes> hey mtyaka! 2011-07-12 15:11:16+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: we talked about scrum sprints, which in our case would be two weeks long 2011-07-12 15:11:22+0000 <mtyaka> hi Xavier, hey arbrandes :) 2011-07-12 15:11:49+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-07-12 15:11:51+0000 <antoviaque> :d 2011-07-12 15:11:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, fill me in on the details: is there a specific user story we'd be working on? 2011-07-12 15:11:55+0000 <dachary> got it 2011-07-12 15:12:26+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I don't know more than this we just discussed it 2 minutes while walking on this room to chat with you 2011-07-12 15:12:51+0000 <antoviaque> I was hoping you could help us organise this, dear scrum master :D 2011-07-12 15:12:58+0000 <arbrandes> Sure, always! 2011-07-12 15:12:59+0000 * dachary browsing http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=13 2011-07-12 15:13:16+0000 <arbrandes> First thing to do, then, is decide how long the sprint is going to be. 2011-07-12 15:13:28+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: didn't get a chance to congratulate you directly other than by email, but I'm glad to have you on board : ) 2011-07-12 15:14:01+0000 <mtyaka> i'm happy to be on board :) 2011-07-12 15:14:05+0000 <antoviaque> : ) 2011-07-12 15:14:06+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: what about a one day sprint tomorrow ? 2011-07-12 15:14:06+0000 <arbrandes> Then based on that, we pick a few stories to detail into tasks. 2011-07-12 15:14:12+0000 <dachary> is it anti-scrum ? 2011-07-12 15:14:21+0000 * dachary newb 2011-07-12 15:14:25+0000 <antoviaque> I'm fine with a one day, it could already be a first test 2011-07-12 15:14:49+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, doesn't really matter as long as we get something out the door by the end of the day. :) 2011-07-12 15:14:58+0000 <dachary> good 2011-07-12 15:15:00+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: how is it going with the chat? will be cool when we can chat there :D 2011-07-12 15:15:21+0000 <arbrandes> What we shouldn't do is start work and not finish. Therefore, we must choose the stories wisely. 2011-07-12 15:15:27+0000 <arbrandes> (or story, single) 2011-07-12 15:16:00+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-07-12 15:16:17+0000 * dachary reading the list with this in mind 2011-07-12 15:16:34+0000 <antoviaque> brb tel 2011-07-12 15:16:53+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I am reading about the task and going through the chat plugin tests to see what needs to be done 2011-07-12 15:17:35+0000 <arbrandes> Who's going to be in the sprint, as " pigs" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)#Roles)? 2011-07-12 15:17:35+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I should have attached a mockup to give an idea of how the chat will look https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/0a.png 2011-07-12 15:17:50+0000 * dachary checking if he is a pig 2011-07-12 15:17:55+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, you are :) 2011-07-12 15:17:56+0000 <arbrandes> So am I 2011-07-12 15:18:01+0000 <dachary> shocking 2011-07-12 15:18:03+0000 <dachary> ok :-D 2011-07-12 15:18:07+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: thanks 2011-07-12 15:18:11+0000 <arbrandes> And so is mtyaka, if he's going in with us :) 2011-07-12 15:18:31+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque is a chicken :P 2011-07-12 15:18:44+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: please ignore the chat avatar for now 2011-07-12 15:18:47+0000 <mtyaka> if I understand correctly, the plugin doesn't need to be integrated with the server at this point yet? 2011-07-12 15:19:02+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: don't worry, I sure am :) 2011-07-12 15:19:34+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, that's the spirit. :) 2011-07-12 15:19:46+0000 <antoviaque> back 2011-07-12 15:19:50+0000 * arbrandes waiting for antoviaque 2011-07-12 15:19:51+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: would you be willing to slice a few images for us to work with ? 2011-07-12 15:19:54+0000 <arbrandes> ah, there you are 2011-07-12 15:20:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap 2011-07-12 15:20:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> tomorrow we can work on this if you want 2011-07-12 15:20:18+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz is now a pig, too 2011-07-12 15:20:19+0000 <dachary> the background images would be a good start for us 2011-07-12 15:20:20+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-07-12 15:20:22+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-07-12 15:20:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> a piiiig? why? 2011-07-12 15:20:38+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)#Roles 2011-07-12 15:20:44+0000 <antoviaque> what what what? Who's calling me chicken? WHO? 2011-07-12 15:20:47+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-07-12 15:20:49+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-12 15:21:44+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, antoviaque, lemme just explain something really quick: 2011-07-12 15:21:51+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: yes, it does not need to be integrated. 2011-07-12 15:22:16+0000 <arbrandes> Your job in a sprint is to make sure the most stuff gets delivered, but you don't actually work on it. 2011-07-12 15:22:44+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I'd like to work on a task or two, is it possible? 2011-07-12 15:22:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, actually, you job starts and ends at the sprint planning meeting 2011-07-12 15:22:56+0000 * antoviaque is a pain in the *ss :) 2011-07-12 15:23:17+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, of course, but then you'll be your own slave master, hahahaha 2011-07-12 15:23:21+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-07-12 15:23:31+0000 <antoviaque> ok then, my double personalities like that 2011-07-12 15:23:47+0000 <arbrandes> Just kidding, it's all about playing the right role at the right time. 2011-07-12 15:23:53+0000 <arbrandes> So... 2011-07-12 15:24:11+0000 <arbrandes> The pigs will be pushing for less stories, you'll be pushing for more. 2011-07-12 15:24:42+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-12 15:24:44+0000 <arbrandes> The idea is that we pigs will sign a "contract" saying we will deliver X stories by the end of the day. 2011-07-12 15:25:01+0000 <arbrandes> Actually, not X stories, we will list the actual stories. 2011-07-12 15:25:25+0000 <arbrandes> When the sprint's done, antoviaque as Product Manager will accept the work, or not. 2011-07-12 15:25:31+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so let's finish all the stories tomorrow, ok? : ) 2011-07-12 15:25:34+0000 <arbrandes> If not, we pigs become bacon. :) 2011-07-12 15:25:42+0000 <arbrandes> hahahhaha, antoviaque, funny man :P 2011-07-12 15:26:33+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good to me 2011-07-12 15:26:37+0000 <arbrandes> So from this, I hope it becomes clear that: 1) The actual work involved must be as detailed as possible, including time estimates. 2011-07-12 15:26:50+0000 <arbrandes> 2) Everybody is on-board regarding the deadline. 2011-07-12 15:26:59+0000 * dachary has trouble picking a task 2011-07-12 15:27:26+0000 <arbrandes> Lemme look at the list 2011-07-12 15:28:08+0000 <arbrandes> We should all be looking at this, right? http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=13 2011-07-12 15:28:25+0000 <arbrandes> Unless we're considering stuff that hasn't been "storified" yet 2011-07-12 15:28:44+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-12 15:29:04+0000 <antoviaque> so far it corresponds to the existing mockups, so we should probably focus on those yep 2011-07-12 15:29:25+0000 <antoviaque> and the ones in "high" priority are the most urgent for the board 2011-07-12 15:29:36+0000 <antoviaque> ...for the accessibility 2011-07-12 15:29:51+0000 <dachary> I can't commit to any tasks at http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=13 2011-07-12 15:30:00+0000 <dachary> the reason is that there are too many dependencies 2011-07-12 15:30:10+0000 <dachary> for which sub tasks are necessary 2011-07-12 15:30:18+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, that is exactly what I feared 2011-07-12 15:30:29+0000 <arbrandes> We may have to break down those stories 2011-07-12 15:30:36+0000 <dachary> now it's not a problem. is it ? we're not forced to pick a user story ? 2011-07-12 15:31:02+0000 <arbrandes> I wouldn't say "forced", but it would be a good start. :) 2011-07-12 15:31:10+0000 <arbrandes> We are free to change the stories, though 2011-07-12 15:31:28+0000 <arbrandes> So that we can deliver something in one day. 2011-07-12 15:31:46+0000 <arbrandes> The question is, which one do we pick to break into pieces? 2011-07-12 15:32:04+0000 <arbrandes> Theoretically, by this point in the discussion we would not have to ask this 2011-07-12 15:32:31+0000 <arbrandes> Because the stories would be ordered specifically, one after the other 2011-07-12 15:32:45+0000 <arbrandes> But right now, they're just jumbled up into "high" priority 2011-07-12 15:32:46+0000 <dachary> hum 2011-07-12 15:32:49+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: but stories != task, no? 2011-07-12 15:32:53+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/196 2011-07-12 15:33:07+0000 <dachary> I think this one is a good candidate 2011-07-12 15:33:09+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, sure, but it's still easier if they're ordered. :) 2011-07-12 15:33:37+0000 * arbrandes looking 2011-07-12 15:33:57+0000 <dachary> it's the simplest of all 2011-07-12 15:34:10+0000 <dachary> meaning we can focus on the integration 2011-07-12 15:34:52+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, is it possible to skip the previous ones on the list? 2011-07-12 15:34:56+0000 <antoviaque> yup but for that we need to base on the state of the previous one, no? 2011-07-12 15:35:00+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: ye 2011-07-12 15:35:01+0000 <dachary> s 2011-07-12 15:35:10+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: not really 2011-07-12 15:35:31+0000 <antoviaque> for example, what's blocking from doing http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/194 first? 2011-07-12 15:36:07+0000 <dachary> nothing is blocking, 194 is just more work 2011-07-12 15:36:14+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, what I mean is, is it possible to pick a card without it having been dealt first? Or are we going to reuse the current code/art? 2011-07-12 15:36:50+0000 <dachary> http://cardstories.org/?skin=create_write_sentence 2011-07-12 15:37:04+0000 <dachary> there you go ;-) it's possible to jump to any game state 2011-07-12 15:37:07+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhhhhhhh, I see, the super ?skin 2011-07-12 15:37:12+0000 <arbrandes> excellent 2011-07-12 15:37:22+0000 <dachary> yes. There is no need to do the task in sequence. 2011-07-12 15:37:24+0000 <arbrandes> I'd forgotten all about it :) 2011-07-12 15:37:37+0000 <dachary> http://cardstories.org/dev/static/?skin=invitation_pick 2011-07-12 15:38:13+0000 <dachary> I picked this one because it allowed me to work on the information needed from the server and the new variable substitutions although it's in the middle of the game logic 2011-07-12 15:38:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: does this make sense or are you refering to something else ? 2011-07-12 15:39:09+0000 <antoviaque> It makes sense - but my fear is more that the animations would have to be reworked when we work on the previous state 2011-07-12 15:39:28+0000 <arbrandes> From my point of view, this makes sense. We would still need to define individual tasks, of course, and see who does what, and if the estimates add up to one day. 2011-07-12 15:39:59+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: that's why I suggest #196 firs too : there are no animations 2011-07-12 15:39:59+0000 <antoviaque> but I guess if this allows to do tasks tomorrow it's not too bad, and the extra work is probably small 2011-07-12 15:40:26+0000 <antoviaque> there is " the chosen card is centered, enlarged and a field appears" 2011-07-12 15:40:42+0000 <antoviaque> but I think it's ok, no worries for me 2011-07-12 15:41:05+0000 <arbrandes> All in favor of #196, say "aye" 2011-07-12 15:41:22+0000 <antoviaque> aye ;p 2011-07-12 15:41:35+0000 <arbrandes> aye! :) heheheh 2011-07-12 15:41:41+0000 <dachary> the only thing that would need to be reworked is "is being centered" 2011-07-12 15:41:45+0000 <dachary> aye 2011-07-12 15:42:14+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, what do you mean by "reworked"? Break it off into another story? 2011-07-12 15:42:43+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: we should pick one story each, right? 2011-07-12 15:42:49+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I mean that "is being centered" depends on the original position of the card that is yet unknown. 2011-07-12 15:42:52+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, no! 2011-07-12 15:43:11+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: no ! don't leave me alone ! 2011-07-12 15:43:19+0000 <antoviaque> ok ok :) 2011-07-12 15:43:26+0000 <antoviaque> then how do we split up the work? 2011-07-12 15:43:26+0000 <dachary> I need graphics from tartaruga feliz 2011-07-12 15:43:30+0000 <arbrandes> For this one-day-sprint, we should pick as few stories as possible, I'm think just the one. 2011-07-12 15:43:47+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, ah, that is an excellent question. this is the next step, and it ain't easy 2011-07-12 15:43:57+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: arbrandes: are you particpating to the one day sprint, too? 2011-07-12 15:43:59+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: if you are willing, you could pick the animation stuff 2011-07-12 15:43:59+0000 <arbrandes> We have to break up that user story into several tasks 2011-07-12 15:44:08+0000 <dachary> it's relatively independant 2011-07-12 15:44:23+0000 <antoviaque> because I know you are already working on tasks, so I don't know what you'd prefer 2011-07-12 15:44:37+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I was thinking yes, and postponing my deadline for #149 for as many hours as I work on the sprint tomorrow. 2011-07-12 15:45:00+0000 <antoviaque> would be nice to be all together yup - thanks and sorry for the interruption :) 2011-07-12 15:45:11+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, no worries at all :) 2011-07-12 15:45:53+0000 <arbrandes> As I was saying, the hard part is breaking #196 into tasks that can be taken individually, without TOO much dependency (although that is almost always impossible). 2011-07-12 15:46:21+0000 <arbrandes> One obvious task is: "Slice up some images" 2011-07-12 15:46:27+0000 <arbrandes> That would be taken up by tartaruga 2011-07-12 15:46:44+0000 <arbrandes> Another possible one is, "Code up the CSS" 2011-07-12 15:46:57+0000 <arbrandes> And another: "Write the client business logic in javascript" 2011-07-12 15:47:05+0000 <antoviaque> I like CSS :D 2011-07-12 15:47:13+0000 <antoviaque> but I know dachary will fight for it too :p 2011-07-12 15:47:15+0000 <dachary> I vouch for "do whatever is necessary to ensure that the codebase is ready" 2011-07-12 15:47:39+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I won't mind. I'd rather check the code 2011-07-12 15:47:42+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe, of course dachary, if it's not ready, we become bacon. :) 2011-07-12 15:48:06+0000 <dachary> ahaha 2011-07-12 15:48:07+0000 <arbrandes> This is all very conducive to teamwork 2011-07-12 15:48:24+0000 <arbrandes> But the tasks do have to be defined, not just for bureaucracy's sake 2011-07-12 15:48:30+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-07-12 15:48:41+0000 <arbrandes> Some tasks might be obvious to you, dachary, but they certainly won't be for me, or maybe mtyaka 2011-07-12 15:49:10+0000 <antoviaque> nor me 2011-07-12 15:49:13+0000 <arbrandes> (Plus, if we don't have tasks, Farsides won't pay us at the end of the month, hahahaha) 2011-07-12 15:49:23+0000 <dachary> "Modify the JS code (and possibly server code) to allow for the CSS/HTML integration of #196" ? 2011-07-12 15:49:23+0000 <antoviaque> ah, I like that better 2011-07-12 15:49:27+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2011-07-12 15:49:43+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: you're mean ;-) 2011-07-12 15:49:53+0000 <arbrandes> Not intentionally ;) 2011-07-12 15:50:08+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, that is a perfect task, much better than how I put it :) 2011-07-12 15:50:09+0000 <dachary> If I create the task above for myself, would that be good ? 2011-07-12 15:50:19+0000 <dachary> ok 2011-07-12 15:50:20+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, sure 2011-07-12 15:50:21+0000 <dachary> I create it 2011-07-12 15:51:53+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/219 2011-07-12 15:52:18+0000 <arbrandes> Cool. What does that leave us, then, if JS and serverside are taken care of? 2011-07-12 15:52:30+0000 <dachary> now I know what to do. I'll join the chat tomorrow and check with my pig peers if we're groink in the right direction 2011-07-12 15:52:37+0000 <arbrandes> lololol 2011-07-12 15:52:42+0000 <arbrandes> "groink" 2011-07-12 15:52:43+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-12 15:53:06+0000 <arbrandes> Who'll code up the actual divs? The same guy who does CSS? 2011-07-12 15:53:48+0000 <dachary> the same antoviaque pig, yes ! 2011-07-12 15:53:49+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, actually for CSS there are several things - what about the general layout of the board (logo, deck, chat, etc.) - do we include it? 2011-07-12 15:54:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, excellent point 2011-07-12 15:54:07+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, normally, yes 2011-07-12 15:54:10+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think it's not technically in the task 2011-07-12 15:54:14+0000 <dachary> the background I mean 2011-07-12 15:54:28+0000 <dachary> the background shows in all tasks 2011-07-12 15:54:37+0000 <dachary> it does not belong to any of them specifically 2011-07-12 15:54:39+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, actually, it is something of an inferred pre-requisite, if we are to deliver as specified by the referred mockups. 2011-07-12 15:54:47+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, you're also right, though 2011-07-12 15:54:47+0000 <dachary> and the chat + online are not there yet 2011-07-12 15:55:12+0000 <dachary> I think the mockup we should worry about is the inner part 2011-07-12 15:55:16+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, we could elect #193 for backgrounds, for example 2011-07-12 15:55:37+0000 <arbrandes> Not for this sprint, possibly 2011-07-12 15:55:40+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: yes 2011-07-12 15:55:49+0000 <dachary> not for this sprint definitely 2011-07-12 15:55:59+0000 <arbrandes> roger that :) 2011-07-12 15:56:02+0000 * dachary pig backing up from doing too much work 2011-07-12 15:56:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-12 15:56:16+0000 <dachary> we have to leave the room now 2011-07-12 15:56:20+0000 <arbrandes> hahahhaha 2011-07-12 15:56:24+0000 <dachary> being kicked out of the pig house 2011-07-12 15:56:29+0000 <dachary> groink 2011-07-12 15:56:30+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-12 15:56:33+0000 <dachary> groink 2011-07-12 15:56:36+0000 <dachary> bbl 2011-07-12 15:56:43+0000 <arbrandes> roger, later 2011-07-12 15:56:55+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so I can work on the CSS of mockup https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2.png 2011-07-12 15:57:08+0000 <antoviaque> ok, brb too : ) 2011-07-12 15:57:26+0000 <arbrandes> I'm going to eat some lunch, brb as well. Oink!! 2011-07-12 15:57:28+0000 <arbrandes> ;) 2011-07-12 16:06:00+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-12 16:06:21+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 16:06:26+0000 <antoviaque> re : ) 2011-07-12 16:06:31+0000 <antoviaque> sorry for the interruption 2011-07-12 16:06:42+0000 <antoviaque> we got kicked out of the building we were sitting 2011-07-12 16:07:53+0000 <arbrandes> ok, so, where were we 2011-07-12 16:08:13+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque does CSS/HTML, dachary does JS and serverside 2011-07-12 16:08:23+0000 <arbrandes> Problem: what's left for us to do? :P 2011-07-12 16:08:36+0000 <arbrandes> Or do we split up these tasks further? 2011-07-12 16:09:00+0000 <arbrandes> We could also add stories 2011-07-12 16:09:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, are you confident you can finish your task in one day? 2011-07-12 16:09:27+0000 <arbrandes> (I'll ask the same of dachary) 2011-07-12 16:10:27+0000 <antoviaque> Well there are several elements with css 2011-07-12 16:10:46+0000 <antoviaque> since there is the mockup I put earlier, but it's animated to end up like in https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2a.png 2011-07-12 16:10:56+0000 <antoviaque> so I could pick only a part 2011-07-12 16:12:29+0000 <arbrandes> And somebody else does animation, is that it? 2011-07-12 16:12:44+0000 <antoviaque> yup - it's more JS that part imho 2011-07-12 16:12:55+0000 <arbrandes> So I would think 2011-07-12 16:13:11+0000 <antoviaque> the part dachary took could probably be split up too, since there are several elements there too 2011-07-12 16:13:31+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, is that something you'd feel comfortable doing, animation with JS? 2011-07-12 16:13:37+0000 <arbrandes> I don't have much experience with that 2011-07-12 16:14:43+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yeah, i'd be comfortable with that 2011-07-12 16:15:05+0000 <mtyaka> i'm sorry i haven't been paying attention... when will the 1 day sprint take place? 2011-07-12 16:15:11+0000 <antoviaque> tomorrow 2011-07-12 16:15:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, it certainly COULD be broken up, but there will probably be several co-dependency issues 2011-07-12 16:15:17+0000 <antoviaque> if you are available of course 2011-07-12 16:15:37+0000 <antoviaque> understood 2011-07-12 16:15:58+0000 <arbrandes> The problem is that server-side and client-side are very intrically connected, in dachary's task 2011-07-12 16:16:13+0000 <mtyaka> I see. I do have a couple of hours available tomorrow, but not much more than that 2011-07-12 16:16:46+0000 <mtyaka> Also, I am currently in China, so there is a bit of a time difference 2011-07-12 16:16:52+0000 <arbrandes> Hmm, couple of hours might not be enough. 2011-07-12 16:16:56+0000 <arbrandes> Cool, China? 2011-07-12 16:17:12+0000 <arbrandes> Where, exactly? 2011-07-12 16:17:17+0000 <arbrandes> (if you don't mind me asking) 2011-07-12 16:17:19+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, visiting my wife's relatives - she is chinese 2011-07-12 16:17:23+0000 <mtyaka> Guangxi, Beihai 2011-07-12 16:17:32+0000 <mtyaka> deep in the south :) 2011-07-12 16:17:34+0000 * arbrandes opens google maps 2011-07-12 16:18:06+0000 <antoviaque> yup, a couple of hours could be tricky 2011-07-12 16:19:29+0000 <antoviaque> especially because dachary, blanchard & i have a conference at 2pm-4pm, it could be tricky to find the right timing 2011-07-12 16:20:33+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: what do you think? 2011-07-12 16:21:11+0000 <mtyaka> at what time would you need me to be here? 2011-07-12 16:21:42+0000 <arbrandes> Time is not really important, what's important is finishing one task. 2011-07-12 16:22:19+0000 <arbrandes> Which is hard to commit to, since we don't exactly know what task it's going to be. :) 2011-07-12 16:22:38+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yup - what do you think, would you be able to complete an isolated task as part of this sprint? 2011-07-12 16:23:22+0000 Jo_ (Jo_) is now online 2011-07-12 16:23:43+0000 <arbrandes> "After the author has picked a card, the chosen card is centered, enlarged and a field appears in which he is prompted to write the story" 2011-07-12 16:23:51+0000 <Jo_> Evening gents (& ladies) ;) 2011-07-12 16:24:03+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, the task would possibly be the "centered and enlarged", an animation 2011-07-12 16:24:09+0000 <arbrandes> Hey Jo_ !! 2011-07-12 16:24:12+0000 <Jo_> still deep into writing stories? 2011-07-12 16:24:33+0000 <arbrandes> Actually we've picked a story and are going into a flash one-day-sprint tomorrow 2011-07-12 16:25:00+0000 <arbrandes> We're in the process of writing the story's tasks 2011-07-12 16:25:04+0000 <antoviaque> Jo_: hi! 2011-07-12 16:26:13+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque, arbrandes: I think I could do that... it depends on what the task includes 2011-07-12 16:27:30+0000 <mtyaka> If it's only the animation itself, I think I would be able to finish it tomorrow 2011-07-12 16:28:09+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, antoviaque would probably provide you with HTML/CSS for the card, you'd just need to animate it, yes 2011-07-12 16:28:21+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, let's confirm that with him 2011-07-12 16:28:33+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: aha, cool, that's certainly doable then 2011-07-12 16:28:42+0000 <antoviaque> what about the dependency? it's animating between two css states 2011-07-12 16:28:55+0000 <arbrandes> oooo, yes 2011-07-12 16:29:44+0000 <arbrandes> tough one 2011-07-12 16:29:58+0000 <antoviaque> yup 2011-07-12 16:30:32+0000 <arbrandes> I'd say leave this out until both states are ready 2011-07-12 16:31:03+0000 <arbrandes> OR 2011-07-12 16:31:21+0000 <arbrandes> (and I think this is best, actually) 2011-07-12 16:31:44+0000 <arbrandes> we look at the mockup, and implement the previous state only as far as the specific card goes. 2011-07-12 16:32:26+0000 <arbrandes> That way, the animation need only be tweaked (or possibly not at all) when the previous state is developed. 2011-07-12 16:34:32+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, you'd be animating the transition from this: 2011-07-12 16:34:33+0000 <arbrandes> https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/1.png 2011-07-12 16:34:35+0000 <arbrandes> to this: 2011-07-12 16:34:38+0000 <arbrandes> https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2.png 2011-07-12 16:34:49+0000 <arbrandes> But only as it affects that one chosen card 2011-07-12 16:35:16+0000 <arbrandes> Think you can do that in the time you have available tomorrow, once you have antoviaque's HTML/CSS? 2011-07-12 16:35:27+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, are you okay with this? ^ 2011-07-12 16:36:41+0000 <antoviaque> between https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2.png and https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2a.png you mean? 2011-07-12 16:37:13+0000 <antoviaque> not sure I understand how - mtyaka does the base css for the card in the two states and the animation, right? 2011-07-12 16:38:17+0000 <arbrandes> Forgot about 2a. Yeah, that too. 2011-07-12 16:38:37+0000 <arbrandes> But from 1 to 2 is also described in story #196 2011-07-12 16:38:43+0000 <arbrandes> "centered and enlarged" 2011-07-12 16:39:13+0000 <arbrandes> The base state thing is up to you guys 2011-07-12 16:39:18+0000 <arbrandes> Whatever's easier 2011-07-12 16:39:34+0000 <arbrandes> (or possible :) 2011-07-12 16:39:35+0000 <antoviaque> ah true 2011-07-12 16:39:51+0000 <antoviaque> for me it's good yep - it's more for mtyaka 2011-07-12 16:41:34+0000 <arbrandes> What's not described is the actual animation from 2 to 2a 2011-07-12 16:41:42+0000 <arbrandes> Just a smooth transition, antoviaque ? 2011-07-12 16:41:56+0000 <antoviaque> I think you can see it in Deborah's video 2011-07-12 16:42:08+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhh, of course :) 2011-07-12 16:42:30+0000 <mtyaka> I'm not sure I understand what I have to do... I get static HTML with CSS of the two (or three) states and then I need to animate the chosen card? 2011-07-12 16:42:42+0000 <mtyaka> Where can I see Deborah's video? 2011-07-12 16:42:42+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, make sure you see the video too: https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/animation%20RMLL/movies/final.mp4 2011-07-12 16:42:47+0000 <mtyaka> thanks :) 2011-07-12 16:42:55+0000 <arbrandes> You might have to clone the repo, though 2011-07-12 16:43:09+0000 <arbrandes> I couldn't download it myself from the website 2011-07-12 16:43:23+0000 <antoviaque> yep, too heavy 2011-07-12 16:43:39+0000 <mtyaka> ok 2011-07-12 16:44:29+0000 <antoviaque> oops, rain - brb 2011-07-12 16:44:37+0000 <arbrandes> no animation between 2 and 2a 2011-07-12 16:44:39+0000 * antoviaque is running for cover 2011-07-12 16:44:42+0000 <arbrandes> except the slider at the top 2011-07-12 16:44:44+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2011-07-12 16:45:16+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, the task distribution is still not clear to me, let's wait for antoviaque 2011-07-12 16:46:03+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, but it would be very nice if you could see the video, to make it clearer :) It might be tough, though. I don't know how fast of a connection you have there, and the repository's about a gigabyte compressed, I think. 2011-07-12 16:46:29+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 16:46:37+0000 <antoviaque> re 2011-07-12 16:46:48+0000 <arbrandes> <arbrandes> mtyaka, the task distribution is still not clear to me, let's wait for antoviaque 2011-07-12 16:46:48+0000 <arbrandes> <arbrandes> mtyaka, but it would be very nice if you could see the video, to make it clearer :) It might be tough, though. I don't know how fast of a connection you have there, and the repository's about a gigabyte compressed, I think. 2011-07-12 16:47:05+0000 <antoviaque> yup - don't have the video now but it's possible that deborah didn't do that part yet 2011-07-12 16:47:15+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: ouch, this will be hard, yes... the connection is rather slow and tends to drop every now and then 2011-07-12 16:47:25+0000 <antoviaque> in that case we can simply do a smooth transition yep 2011-07-12 16:48:49+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, the video is just 6 mb, I'll email it to you (or put it on youtube, or something, if that's ok with antoviaque) 2011-07-12 16:49:31+0000 <antoviaque> of course 2011-07-12 16:49:40+0000 <antoviaque> it's all free ;p 2011-07-12 16:49:42+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: that'd be great, thanks 2011-07-12 16:50:26+0000 * arbrandes uploading to utoob 2011-07-12 16:52:09+0000 <arbrandes> Ack, license... CC-BY or standard youtube license? 2011-07-12 16:52:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque ^ 2011-07-12 16:52:56+0000 <antoviaque> cc-by-sa 2011-07-12 16:54:01+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFWH-5wkbA 2011-07-12 16:55:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: thanks : ) 2011-07-12 16:56:04+0000 <arbrandes> Updated description to give credit to tartaruga, heheheh 2011-07-12 16:56:31+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-12 16:57:31+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: so what do you think at the end? 2011-07-12 16:57:37+0000 <antoviaque> you need any precisions? 2011-07-12 16:59:23+0000 <antoviaque> uup 2011-07-12 16:59:26+0000 <antoviaque> upps 2011-07-12 17:01:27+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: so aside from waiting for mtyaka to come back, what do we need? also discuss with dachary? 2011-07-12 17:01:45+0000 <arbrandes> We need to create the actual tasks 2011-07-12 17:02:03+0000 <arbrandes> And that's it, we can get to working :) 2011-07-12 17:02:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-07-12 17:02:18+0000 <antoviaque> you want me to enter mine? 2011-07-12 17:02:31+0000 <arbrandes> I'm still unclear on the division between your task and mtyaka, but you can discuss it with him 2011-07-12 17:02:46+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, sure, just put #196 as the parent task 2011-07-12 17:02:49+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I'm a bit fuzzy too 2011-07-12 17:02:56+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-07-12 17:03:08+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for doing the moderator :D 2011-07-12 17:03:28+0000 <arbrandes> There's also the question of what *I* will do! ;) 2011-07-12 17:03:32+0000 <arbrandes> np at all 2011-07-12 17:03:45+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe dachary will leave me some crumbs 2011-07-12 17:04:06+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2011-07-12 17:04:26+0000 <antoviaque> ahhhhhh yes! ahahah 2011-07-12 17:04:47+0000 <antoviaque> I even had writtent the question earlier and cut it to not interrupt an ongoing discussion : ) 2011-07-12 17:04:54+0000 <antoviaque> what would you be interested in working on? 2011-07-12 17:05:41+0000 <arbrandes> Whatever helps the sprint 2011-07-12 17:05:57+0000 <arbrandes> I can sing along, if you like 2011-07-12 17:06:02+0000 <arbrandes> (just kidding, I can't sing worth a damn) 2011-07-12 17:06:08+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha ;p 2011-07-12 17:06:27+0000 <antoviaque> ok - I'll try to see if dachary can reconnect later on this evening (if I get a hold of him, he's good to disappear ;p) 2011-07-12 17:06:41+0000 <antoviaque> this way we can try to discuss together 2011-07-12 17:06:55+0000 <arbrandes> alright, I'll think it'll be best. Maybe he knows something I can help with. 2011-07-12 17:07:32+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe mtyaka'll show up by then, too. :) 2011-07-12 17:07:36+0000 <antoviaque> yup :) 2011-07-12 17:08:47+0000 <antoviaque> thanks in any case 2011-07-12 17:09:01+0000 <arbrandes> Glad to be of service, always. :) 2011-07-12 17:09:39+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-12 17:13:26+0000 <antoviaque> brb - i'll reco from the hotel if I can get wifi there :) 2011-07-12 17:22:37+0000 <Jo_> not the best day to chat i figure :) 2011-07-12 17:22:57+0000 <Jo_> antoviaque is at a salon or something ? 2011-07-12 17:23:17+0000 <Jo_> the opensource conference event? 2011-07-12 17:25:00+0000 <Jo_> well, wish you good luck! I'll come back another day ;) Cheers! 2011-07-12 17:53:24+0000 antoviaque2 (antoviaque2) is now online 2011-07-12 17:55:11+0000 <antoviaque2> arbrandes: got back 3g on my phone :) 2011-07-12 17:56:05+0000 <antoviaque2> not handy to type but at least compensates for the lack of access at the hotel ;) 2011-07-12 17:57:29+0000 <antoviaque2> so dachary went to have beer... sorry (again...) for the miscommunication 2011-07-12 17:58:40+0000 <antoviaque2> I don't think we'll be able to finish that meeting tonight 2011-07-12 18:00:59+0000 <antoviaque2> what I am going to do is the following: tomorrow morning I'm going to discuss with dachary and tartaruga to finish defining the tasks, and see what you (and mtyaka if he reappears) can take on 2011-07-12 18:02:09+0000 <antoviaque2> when do you think you will connect tomorrow? 2011-07-12 19:43:04+0000 antoviaque2 (antoviaque2) is now online 2011-07-12 19:51:47+0000 antoviaque2 (antoviaque2) is now online 2011-07-12 20:11:22+0000 antoviaque2 (antoviaque2) is now online 2011-07-12 20:15:27+0000 antoviaque3 (antoviaque3) is now online 2011-07-12 20:30:57+0000 antoviaque3 (antoviaque3) is now online 2011-07-12 21:26:14+0000 antoviaque2 (antoviaque2) is now online 2011-07-12 21:31:14+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-12 21:32:50+0000 <antoviaque> re 2011-07-12 21:33:05+0000 <arbrandes> hey dude 2011-07-12 21:33:08+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: if you replied earlier while I was on my phone, I couldn't see : ) 2011-07-12 21:33:26+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I replied in buddypress :) 2011-07-12 21:33:37+0000 <arbrandes> I'll be here at 12:00 GMT+2, at the latest 2011-07-12 21:33:40+0000 <antoviaque> I just activated the wifi hotspot on my android, so I can finally have internet on my laptop in my hotel room - hurraaaay! 2011-07-12 21:33:45+0000 <arbrandes> Will try to come earlier 2011-07-12 21:33:50+0000 <antoviaque> ok, let me see buddypress : ) 2011-07-12 21:35:29+0000 <antoviaque> read - ah cool :D 2011-07-12 21:35:40+0000 <antoviaque> the conference is at 2pm so it should leave plenty of time 2011-07-12 21:36:25+0000 <antoviaque> we had thought of having lunch with one of the guys who were interessted in Farsides (Xavier), but I'm going to decline to make sure I can be there to discuss with you 2011-07-12 21:36:45+0000 <antoviaque> we can always catch up once in Paris - he lives there too : ) 2011-07-12 21:37:07+0000 <antoviaque> so perfect 2011-07-12 21:37:10+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I can do it after your meeting, too 2011-07-12 21:37:19+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, whatever best 2011-07-12 21:37:28+0000 <antoviaque> nope, you're more important : ) 2011-07-12 21:37:29+0000 <arbrandes> *whatever is best 2011-07-12 21:37:34+0000 <arbrandes> Hehehe, ok, thanks :) 2011-07-12 21:38:07+0000 <antoviaque> We haven't been around much and left you without support, I feel really bad about this - I want to make it up : ) 2011-07-12 21:38:11+0000 <arbrandes> I also posted an important taxation issue in group HR, though that is probably more David's domain. 2011-07-12 21:38:19+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, I've seen 2011-07-12 21:38:35+0000 <antoviaque> I'll let him read, but I'm sure we can figure out something, no worries 2011-07-12 21:38:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, no worries about support, I understand! The conference is a major milestone 2011-07-12 21:39:28+0000 <antoviaque> Thanks : ) 2011-07-12 21:39:51+0000 <antoviaque> And it's because you're so understanding that I feel so bad, actually ;p You deserve the best :D 2011-07-12 21:40:16+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so I'll catch up with you tomorrow 2011-07-12 21:40:23+0000 <arbrandes> Hahaha, don't feel bad, because it makes me feel bad! It's all good, dude, seriously. :) 2011-07-12 21:40:26+0000 <arbrandes> Roger that 2011-07-12 21:40:32+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, ok : ) 2011-07-12 21:40:52+0000 <antoviaque> You rock : ) 2011-07-12 21:40:56+0000 <antoviaque> See you tomorrow! 2011-07-12 21:41:24+0000 <arbrandes> As far as I can tell, we all rock here at Farsides! :) See you tomorrow, Xavier! 2011-07-12 21:41:32+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2011-07-12 22:09:19+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-12 22:32:17+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-12 22:38:51+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: hop 2011-07-12 22:38:57+0000 <dachary> gotverdam 2011-07-12 22:39:02+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: plop! 2011-07-12 22:39:14+0000 <antoviaque> gotverdam? hips? :D 2011-07-12 22:39:19+0000 <dachary> they have real good food/wine these alsacians 2011-07-12 22:39:28+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2011-07-12 22:39:31+0000 <antoviaque> agreed :D 2011-07-12 22:39:32+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-07-12 22:39:45+0000 <antoviaque> we ate lots of unlimited flamenkueche :D 2011-07-12 22:39:56+0000 <antoviaque> with 1L of beer - hips! 2011-07-12 22:40:05+0000 <dachary> omg 2011-07-12 22:40:36+0000 <antoviaque> it's a good thing I don't live here - it's so good and cheap that would be a drunk fat guys by now ;p 2011-07-12 22:40:52+0000 <dachary> i would not say cheap 2011-07-12 22:41:30+0000 <antoviaque> ah, that's because you only go in expensive places ahahaha 2011-07-12 22:41:48+0000 <antoviaque> unlimited flams + 1L beer = 12.50 euros ;p 2011-07-12 22:41:48+0000 <dachary> :-) _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/
