Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-13.
2011-07-13 01:50:57+0000 <xrogaan_> antoviaque: hay there. Sorry to be late, but I might have found a funny project to work to. While it's NSFW, it's always fun. 2011-07-13 02:07:31+0000 <xrogaan_> neverless to say: it'll be awesome 2011-07-13 02:10:25+0000 <xrogaan_> but, i'm facing something odd: RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded while calling a Python object 2011-07-13 02:35:03+0000 <xrogaan_> and I just pooped some code I'm proud of : http://codepad.org/ovTV7j9U 2011-07-13 03:37:56+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-13 04:24:08+0000 <xrogaan_> well whatever 2011-07-13 05:32:14+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 06:42:51+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: paf 2011-07-13 06:51:04+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-13 08:04:53+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-13 08:05:19+0000 <dachary> hi 2011-07-13 08:06:50+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: \o/ 2011-07-13 08:13:33+0000 <mtyaka> hi dachary 2011-07-13 08:14:11+0000 <dachary> would you like to participate in the sprint today ? 2011-07-13 08:14:24+0000 <dachary> if you do i'll find a 2h task you can agree on 2011-07-13 08:15:42+0000 <mtyaka> If you think you can find a 2h task, I'll be happy to participate 2011-07-13 08:16:29+0000 <mtyaka> I'm just about to push my work on the chat plugin up to gitorious for your feedback 2011-07-13 08:17:02+0000 <dachary> great 2011-07-13 08:17:11+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: when will you be available ? 2011-07-13 08:18:21+0000 <mtyaka> it's pretty basic at the moment and lacking the tests, because I'd first like to get confirmation that what I'm doing is right, so that I won't have to rewrite all the tests later... 2011-07-13 08:18:31+0000 <mtyaka> in about 5 or 6 hours 2011-07-13 08:18:58+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 08:19:14+0000 <mtyaka> at 15:00 or 16:00 (GMT+2) 2011-07-13 08:21:43+0000 <dachary> excellent, that will give me time to figure something out 2011-07-13 08:22:06+0000 <dachary> I'm thinking animating an element (the card) 2011-07-13 08:22:27+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-07-13 08:22:41+0000 <blanchard> hello ! 2011-07-13 08:22:49+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-13 08:22:49+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: do you have previous experience with JS animations with jquery ? If you do I'd rather tailor the task to use the tools you are acustomed to. 2011-07-13 08:22:59+0000 <antoviaque> hi! 2011-07-13 08:23:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello! 2011-07-13 08:24:41+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: I have some experience, but not a lot. Most of the animations I did so far were pretty basic - animating the opacity or sliding some elements - nothing too fancy. 2011-07-13 08:25:00+0000 <mtyaka> hello everybody 2011-07-13 08:25:16+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: ok. And you used just jquery or an additional plugin ? 2011-07-13 08:25:34+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-13 08:25:58+0000 <blanchard> hi arbrandes :) 2011-07-13 08:26:02+0000 <arbrandes> Morning folks :) 2011-07-13 08:26:05+0000 <arbrandes> Hey David! 2011-07-13 08:26:07+0000 <blanchard> long time 2011-07-13 08:26:18+0000 <arbrandes> long time no see :) 2011-07-13 08:26:29+0000 <blanchard> indeed. How are things ? 2011-07-13 08:27:05+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: jquery most of the time. I also played with Raphael a bit, but from the video and the mockups I saw, jquery should do just fine. 2011-07-13 08:27:11+0000 <arbrandes> Everything's fine on this side of the Atlantic. I hear all's good on yours, too! :) Congrats on the success with the kids on RMLL 2011-07-13 08:27:27+0000 <blanchard> :) 2011-07-13 08:27:46+0000 <blanchard> sorry for the silence. Internet access was a bit problematic 2011-07-13 08:28:30+0000 <blanchard> I've seen that you posted on buddypress I'll try to catch up today. Huge pile of mails waiting for me :/ 2011-07-13 08:29:06+0000 <arbrandes> Yeah, antoviaque told me, no problems. Me and dachary got along fine, though. :) 2011-07-13 08:29:20+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, no rush :) 2011-07-13 08:29:28+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: hey. What are you doing in the middle of the night ! 2011-07-13 08:29:33+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-07-13 08:29:34+0000 <dachary> groink 2011-07-13 08:29:37+0000 <blanchard> yeah, I'm discovering the chat logs ;) 2011-07-13 08:30:12+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, hahahah, as I've told Xavier before, I was practically born in a farm, so I wake up and go to sleep with the chickens (and pigs) ;) 2011-07-13 08:30:19+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: jquery it is. 2011-07-13 08:31:12+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: mtyaka agreed to participate in the sprint and do a 2h max task. I was thinking animating the card as a good candidate. 2011-07-13 08:31:27+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: what say you master ? 2011-07-13 08:32:29+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, sounds good to me, but hey, the scrum master's in reality just a shepherd, you guys do what you want! ;) 2011-07-13 08:33:20+0000 <arbrandes> The only thing that wasn't clear yesterday was regarding the task separation between HTML/CSS and the animation 2011-07-13 08:33:36+0000 <arbrandes> (and possible dependencies) 2011-07-13 08:34:30+0000 <antoviaque> hi arbrandes : ) 2011-07-13 08:35:07+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: which field do you use for priority of stories - 'priority' or 'order' ? 2011-07-13 08:35:10+0000 <arbrandes> hey man, mornin' ! 2011-07-13 08:35:22+0000 <antoviaque> very early for you, thanks for coming :D 2011-07-13 08:35:46+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, np at all, I love getting an early start. :) 2011-07-13 08:35:46+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: both 2011-07-13 08:35:51+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, me too ;p 2011-07-13 08:36:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/animation%20RMLL/movies its the final.mp4 dachary 2011-07-13 08:36:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wooow arbrandes!!! you're crazy. ahahahahah :D 2011-07-13 08:36:31+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: priority, and then order to fine tune 2011-07-13 08:36:47+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: thanks 2011-07-13 08:36:48+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: I updated the ticket at http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/218 - I can't seem to be able to set it to the "ready for review" state. 2011-07-13 08:36:51+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, morning dudette. Yup, certified crazy according to friends and family. :) 2011-07-13 08:36:52+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: thx 2011-07-13 08:36:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> haahahahha 2011-07-13 08:38:11+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, I think we're going to use priority as a loose aggregation of different parts of the project, while the order will define the priority inside the sprint. 2011-07-13 08:38:34+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I'll take a look, thanks 2011-07-13 08:38:46+0000 <arbrandes> That's my proposition, actually, it remains to be seen if it'll be practical 2011-07-13 08:39:15+0000 <blanchard> arbrandes: makes sense to me 2011-07-13 08:39:49+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: mtyaka: #218 passed to specified 2011-07-13 08:40:31+0000 <dachary> k 2011-07-13 08:40:35+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, dachary: when you create a task, use the "Parent" field to specify the story number. This is Jo's recommendation. 2011-07-13 08:41:35+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, I need to readd the right to do this (was removed to avoid issues with aggregation of times, but with stories it's fine) 2011-07-13 08:41:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger that :) 2011-07-13 08:42:44+0000 <antoviaque> done 2011-07-13 08:44:15+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: to get the farsides repo => http://cardstories.antoviaque.org/public/farsides.tar 2011-07-13 08:44:20+0000 <arbrandes> thanks 2011-07-13 08:47:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, mtyaka: how's the division of the tasks between you two, regarding CSS vs. animation? 2011-07-13 08:47:31+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: would you be so kind as to isolate the animation related to https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/blobs/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/2.png ? I would use it to create the ticket for mtyaka to work on. 2011-07-13 08:47:31+0000 * antoviaque adding to move from gitorious to our own repo - farsides repo is no 2.7GB... 2011-07-13 08:47:41+0000 <dachary> s/no /now / 2011-07-13 08:47:59+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I think dachary is going to prepare an animation task for mtyaka 2011-07-13 08:48:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: I'm on it right now! 2011-07-13 08:48:23+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: groink ! 2011-07-13 08:48:32+0000 <antoviaque> grouiiiiik 2011-07-13 08:48:34+0000 <arbrandes> lol, ok :) 2011-07-13 08:49:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> oinc oinc 2011-07-13 08:49:22+0000 <arbrandes> hahahahha 2011-07-13 08:50:02+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, antoviaque, if you find a crumb of pig-work I can help with, I'm all ears! 2011-07-13 08:50:49+0000 <antoviaque> dachary said he would try to find something for you :) 2011-07-13 08:50:59+0000 <arbrandes> The idea is to finish #196 at any cost by the end of the day. 2011-07-13 08:51:02+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, cool :) 2011-07-13 08:51:37+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I expected you to wake up later :-) I have no idea yet. 2011-07-13 08:51:48+0000 <dachary> In any case the work will be from the dev-2.0 branch 2011-07-13 08:52:19+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, hehehe, no problem, meanwhile I'll be continuing with #149 2011-07-13 08:54:29+0000 <dachary> git checkout dev-2.0 2011-07-13 08:56:39+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: note that dev-2.0 is lagging behind with regard to your work on master. 2011-07-13 08:56:54+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, understood 2011-07-13 08:57:00+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: arbrandesI'll be working on http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/220 - alright with you? 2011-07-13 08:57:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: are you on dev-2.0 ? 2011-07-13 08:57:15+0000 <antoviaque> I have checked it out yup 2011-07-13 08:58:03+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: note that in dev-2.0 the CSS structure is different from what you're used to 2011-07-13 08:58:05+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, sure! 2011-07-13 08:58:17+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'll have a look, thx 2011-07-13 08:58:20+0000 <dachary> and it's a little confusing because it's "in progress" 2011-07-13 08:58:31+0000 <dachary> s/in progress/quite a mess/ 2011-07-13 08:58:41+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe 2011-07-13 09:01:42+0000 <dachary> http://dachary.org/?p=749 antoviaque check the part explaining "board result" 2011-07-13 09:01:57+0000 <antoviaque> ok 2011-07-13 09:02:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/animation%20RMLL/movies its the cardanimation.mp4 2011-07-13 09:05:24+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, dachary, I also put it on youtube for easy access: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFWH-5wkbA 2011-07-13 09:05:37+0000 <arbrandes> (since we were having trouble downloading it from gitorious) 2011-07-13 09:05:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ah cool! :) 2011-07-13 09:14:52+0000 <dachary> sheppard arbrandes, is http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/221 ok ? this is for matjaz, not for you sorry ;-) 2011-07-13 09:15:20+0000 <dachary> I will update XXX once tartarugafeliz tells me where to find the extract of the movie 2011-07-13 09:16:36+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: arbrandes is there anything else requiring my attention at the moment ? If not I'll focus on the code and be silent for an hour. 2011-07-13 09:16:39+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, awesome, now I understand what animation entails. :) 2011-07-13 09:16:55+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, go ahead! :) 2011-07-13 09:17:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/animation%20RMLL/movies its the cardanimation.mp4 2011-07-13 09:17:32+0000 <dachary> oh, sorry I missed it. stupid me ping groink :-( 2011-07-13 09:17:54+0000 <arbrandes> lol :) 2011-07-13 09:17:58+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :-P 2011-07-13 09:18:38+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: just the task for arbrandes, but I imagine you'll find it out during your coding spree? 2011-07-13 09:19:07+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: exactly. I can't figure it out from the top of my head. 2011-07-13 09:19:16+0000 <antoviaque> ahah, ok : ) 2011-07-13 09:19:21+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-07-13 09:19:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, dachary, no rush on that, it's early here. :) I'll be having breakfast and washing my bike, be back later. 2011-07-13 09:19:38+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok - have a good breakfast : ) 2011-07-13 09:19:44+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks 2011-07-13 09:29:26+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I think I know what you can work on. At the moment the page is reloaded each time a game state changes. This will will be a problem when trying to display animations. 2011-07-13 09:29:26+0000 mrjmad (mrjmad) is now online 2011-07-13 09:29:31+0000 <mrjmad> bonjour bonjour 2011-07-13 09:29:35+0000 <dachary> mrjmad: hi 2011-07-13 09:29:42+0000 <mrjmad> je sius aux rmll 2011-07-13 09:29:55+0000 <mrjmad> je viens de croiser jean christophe becquet qui vient d eme dire que vous faites du jeux videos en django :) 2011-07-13 09:29:58+0000 <dachary> mrjmad: we are in room 3204 @ patio @ fac de droit 2011-07-13 09:30:15+0000 <mrjmad> vous y restez combien de temps ? ( je suis a la table ronde politique la ? ) 2011-07-13 09:30:32+0000 <mrjmad> une autre question, pourquoi vous etes jamais venu au djangocong ?? :)) 2011-07-13 09:30:34+0000 <dachary> mrjmad: we stay here all day, you're welcome to visit :-) 2011-07-13 09:30:53+0000 <dachary> I don't know what djangocong is 2011-07-13 09:32:01+0000 <mrjmad> http://rencontres.django-fr.org/2011/ 2011-07-13 09:32:06+0000 <mrjmad> ok, je vais passer 2011-07-13 09:32:13+0000 <mrjmad> rassurez moi, vous parlez français en vrai hein ? :) 2011-07-13 09:32:24+0000 <dachary> yes we do :-) Only this chat is english 2011-07-13 09:32:31+0000 <mrjmad> ok pour le chat 2011-07-13 09:32:38+0000 <mrjmad> ca dérange pas si je parle français du coup ? 2011-07-13 09:32:39+0000 <dachary> because arbrandes & tartarugafeliz don't speak french 2011-07-13 09:33:12+0000 <dachary> mrjmad: i don't mind but they won't hear you ;-) 2011-07-13 09:33:13+0000 <mrjmad> ok 2011-07-13 09:34:28+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: I was thinking you could modify cardstories.js to only reload when really necessary. 2011-07-13 09:34:49+0000 <dachary> but then I thought that it is not strictly in the scope of this sprint 2011-07-13 09:34:58+0000 * dachary trying to find something else 2011-07-13 09:35:42+0000 J-Mad (J-Mad) is now online 2011-07-13 09:36:02+0000 <J-Mad> op, avec un vrai client irc, c'est mieux :) 2011-07-13 09:37:32+0000 <dachary> :-D 2011-07-13 09:46:53+0000 <arbrandes> (quick reply between bites): dachary, that's fine by me. It's basic work that affects many stories, and as such, can be included in any of them. 2011-07-13 09:49:07+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/223 this is for you if you want it. I will take the #222 if I find nothing more to the point. 2011-07-13 09:49:40+0000 <J-Mad> tiens, je découvre votre site et votre jeu de carte. J'ai l'impression que ca ressemble à 'il était une fois..' version web je me trompe ? 2011-07-13 09:50:25+0000 <antoviaque> hi J-Mad : ) 2011-07-13 09:50:26+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, sure, I can do 223 2011-07-13 09:50:38+0000 <antoviaque> I don't know that game - do you have an URL 2011-07-13 09:50:45+0000 * arbrandes is happy he can also play in the pig sty. :) 2011-07-13 09:50:48+0000 <antoviaque> another game that it is inspired from is Dixit 2011-07-13 09:50:50+0000 <J-Mad> je cherche antoviaque 2011-07-13 09:51:15+0000 <J-Mad> http://jeuxstrategie.free.fr/Il_etait_complet.php 2011-07-13 09:51:30+0000 <J-Mad> aussitot dit, aussitot fait :) 2011-07-13 09:53:59+0000 <antoviaque> looks like a great game - I'm saving it to read peacefully after the sprint : ) 2011-07-13 09:54:01+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2011-07-13 09:57:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: here you go https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/sliced/2 2011-07-13 09:57:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> if you need anything else, tell me! :D 2011-07-13 09:59:00+0000 <J-Mad> antoviaque, je passe dés que je peux en 3204 2011-07-13 09:59:08+0000 <J-Mad> et si tu as 2 minutes, je t'explique :) 2011-07-13 09:59:13+0000 <antoviaque> ok :D 2011-07-13 09:59:23+0000 <J-Mad> c'est mieux d'avoir une explication live, d'un mec qui a joué pour de vrai 2011-07-13 09:59:34+0000 <J-Mad> et on parlera django aussi tiens, si vous avez un peu de temps 2011-07-13 09:59:47+0000 <J-Mad> vous mangez ou à midi ? 2011-07-13 10:04:24+0000 <antoviaque> bonne question - perso je crois que je vais zapper le dej, je suis pas en avance sur ma tache de sprint :/ 2011-07-13 10:05:14+0000 <antoviaque> J-Mad: au passage, comme tout le monde parle pas francais, ca t'irait de parler en anglais? 2011-07-13 10:05:17+0000 <arbrandes> be back in a few minutes 2011-07-13 10:05:22+0000 <antoviaque> au pire tu peux faire: 2011-07-13 10:05:25+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok : ) 2011-07-13 10:05:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: translate coucou ! 2011-07-13 10:05:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: cuckoo 2011-07-13 10:05:47+0000 <antoviaque> uh, bad example ahahaha 2011-07-13 10:06:41+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: ! 2011-07-13 10:07:42+0000 <J-Mad> antoviaque, i can try 2011-07-13 10:07:57+0000 <J-Mad> but i am lvl 1 in english :) 2011-07-13 10:07:58+0000 <antoviaque> J-Mad: thanks a lot :D 2011-07-13 10:08:01+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I'm going to work on http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/222 could you set it to specified plize ? 2011-07-13 10:08:05+0000 <antoviaque> looks fine so far ;p 2011-07-13 10:08:12+0000 * dachary need 2011-07-13 10:08:14+0000 * dachary need 2011-07-13 10:08:15+0000 * dachary need 2011-07-13 10:08:15+0000 * dachary need 2011-07-13 10:08:19+0000 <dachary> groink 2011-07-13 10:08:23+0000 <antoviaque> done ;p 2011-07-13 10:13:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: antoviaque there you go https://gitorious.org/farsides/farsides/trees/master/cardstories/board%20interface/Author/sliced/2 2011-07-13 10:14:34+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: perfect - thanks! :D 2011-07-13 10:15:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-13 10:52:26+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I felt the need to write down my thoughts about animations at http://dachary.org/?p=771 2011-07-13 11:01:13+0000 <J-Mad> antoviaque, you are always in 3204 ? 2011-07-13 11:01:24+0000 <antoviaque> J-Mad: yep : ) 2011-07-13 11:06:39+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-13 11:29:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> antoviaque: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dFWH-5wkbA 2011-07-13 11:32:49+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-13 11:36:23+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: welcome back 2011-07-13 11:37:01+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: FYI I thought about the animations in general and wrote it down at http://dachary.org/?p=771 2011-07-13 11:37:14+0000 <dachary> I'm now working on #222 2011-07-13 11:40:40+0000 * arbrandes reading 2011-07-13 11:50:49+0000 <arbrandes> I like your post, dachary, it explains all the problems. The proposed solutions sounds good, too. At worst there'll be a small flicker between states, but nobody's going to notice that. 2011-07-13 11:53:16+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: hopefully. 2011-07-13 11:53:55+0000 <dachary> I discussed more while taking a cofee with another js developer. The alternatives are all worse, in my opinion. 2011-07-13 11:55:17+0000 <arbrandes> Yes, the maintenance involved in keeping the same DOM is kinda scary 2011-07-13 11:55:35+0000 <arbrandes> And as you wrote, difficult to divide into standalone tasks 2011-07-13 11:55:36+0000 <dachary> yes. 2011-07-13 11:55:59+0000 <dachary> we're going to have a round table during 90 minutes starting in 5 minutes 2011-07-13 11:56:25+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: is chairing the round tabl 2011-07-13 11:56:26+0000 <dachary> e 2011-07-13 11:56:49+0000 <arbrandes> cool, I'll be getting a grip on the code as preparation for #223 2011-07-13 11:58:14+0000 <dachary> #222 is a little tricky as I suspected 2011-07-13 11:58:24+0000 <dachary> because it implies that not everything is reset all the time 2011-07-13 11:58:34+0000 <dachary> and leftovers show more than they used to 2011-07-13 11:59:32+0000 <arbrandes> I'm wondering how #222 will affect the ?skin feature 2011-07-13 12:04:25+0000 <dachary> brb 2011-07-13 12:04:37+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: i don't think it will 2011-07-13 12:04:41+0000 <dachary> bbl i meant 2011-07-13 12:04:49+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2011-07-13 12:09:14+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-13 12:41:34+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-13 13:26:19+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2011-07-13 13:27:18+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-13 13:46:26+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, regarding #223, if I understand correctly, the animation shown on http://dachary.org/wp-uploads/2011/07/cardanimation.mp4 will be initiated from create_pick_card(), so that this state ends up in the way create_write_sentence() (which will recreate the DOM) expects it. Am I right? 2011-07-13 13:52:30+0000 <dachary> back 2011-07-13 13:52:59+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: yes you are. 2011-07-13 13:56:25+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, thanks :) 2011-07-13 13:59:32+0000 * dachary writing tests 2011-07-13 14:01:12+0000 <arbrandes> Writing tests is hard, but they give a warm fuzzy feeling when you get them to work. (in addition to the standard benefits, of course :) 2011-07-13 14:02:17+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2011-07-13 14:06:47+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-13 14:07:31+0000 <dachary> :-D this test is tricky as it involves chained jquery deferred... 2011-07-13 14:30:32+0000 * dachary mumbles and re-do the test in a clean way 2011-07-13 14:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: agreed for the tests ;p 2011-07-13 14:38:25+0000 <antoviaque> re btw - got aggro by people after the roundtable - trying to extract myself to work a bit ;p 2011-07-13 14:46:53+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-13 14:50:13+0000 * arbrandes breaking for lunch, bbl 2011-07-13 14:56:32+0000 * dachary is on the right path, relaxing a bit 2011-07-13 15:40:59+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now offline 2011-07-13 15:41:19+0000 <dachary> http://cardstories.org/trac/changeset/ccc0282d1e7e34367a15d056086c5ac7156ecf0d #122 done ! 2011-07-13 15:41:49+0000 <antoviaque> getting ejected from the conference - going back to the hotel, will reco from there : ) 2011-07-13 15:41:53+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline 2011-07-13 15:45:20+0000 <mtyaka> hi everybody. for today's sprint are we supposed to be working on the master branch or the dev-2.0 branch? 2011-07-13 16:06:20+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2011-07-13 16:16:55+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online 2011-07-13 16:23:20+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2011-07-13 16:24:25+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2011-07-13 16:24:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> back! 2011-07-13 16:24:33+0000 <arbrandes> hey :) 2011-07-13 16:24:41+0000 <dachary> hop 2011-07-13 16:24:56+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 16:25:37+0000 <antoviaque> re 2011-07-13 16:25:55+0000 <antoviaque> from the hotel this time, after being chased of the conference hall : ) 2011-07-13 16:26:09+0000 <arbrandes> hehehe 2011-07-13 16:31:50+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, mtyaka, have you guys started work on #220 and #221? Just checking, my #223 depends on yours. :) 2011-07-13 16:32:16+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yup, working on it 2011-07-13 16:33:00+0000 <antoviaque> I haven't advanced as much as I would like due to the conference taking more time than I thought, but I'm not going to quit before I finish : ) 2011-07-13 16:33:48+0000 <mtyaka> i'm having some problems getting started 2011-07-13 16:33:56+0000 <mtyaka> are we supposed to work on the master or dev-2.0 branch? 2011-07-13 16:34:55+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: on the dev-2.0 branch 2011-07-13 16:35:17+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, no problem, this is just our trial run, after all :) 2011-07-13 16:35:33+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: sorry if that was unclear. I said it on the chat but forgot to add it to the task requirements. 2011-07-13 16:35:49+0000 <antoviaque> ah but it's good if we can finish it well : ) 2011-07-13 16:35:57+0000 <arbrandes> What is important, though, is visibility. We need to know how each of us is doing, so as to optimize the little time we have. 2011-07-13 16:36:18+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: that's ok, I tried running the dev-2.0 branch and ran into some Internal Server Errors 2011-07-13 16:36:30+0000 <mtyaka> is this expected or is my configuration messed up some how? 2011-07-13 16:36:58+0000 <mtyaka> the error happens when I enter the text for the card 2011-07-13 16:37:20+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: which command did you use ? 2011-07-13 16:37:31+0000 <mtyaka> I also get internal server error when trying to play in solo mode (this happens to me on the master branch also) 2011-07-13 16:37:34+0000 <dachary> you should not try it with djangoauth but with auth 2011-07-13 16:38:33+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: oh... i see. I was following the instructions in the readme... in that case do I need to run django at all? 2011-07-13 16:38:39+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: on my side I have only reworked the HTML structure to fit the layout changes since loic did it, and position 2 backgrounds 2011-07-13 16:39:14+0000 <antoviaque> overall my task isn't very big, but I'm only 25% through, so let's see how it goes 2011-07-13 16:39:44+0000 <antoviaque> btw how do we end it? I mean, once we have all finished our tasks, who takes care of gluing the pieces together? 2011-07-13 16:40:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm gluing #220 and #221. :) Integration should always be a defined task. 2011-07-13 16:41:00+0000 <arbrandes> Which in this case, is #223 :) 2011-07-13 16:41:19+0000 <arbrandes> thanks for the info, anyway! 2011-07-13 16:41:20+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh - ok then, understood : ) 2011-07-13 16:42:07+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: you don't need to run django at all 2011-07-13 16:42:26+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: actually you can use the same command line you use on master 2011-07-13 16:43:01+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: ok, thanks. 2011-07-13 16:43:41+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: Something about the task still isn't clear to me. The task says: 2011-07-13 16:43:45+0000 <mtyaka> "Note that the animation must assume the card is already centered. The movement of the card from its position from the dock is the responsibility of the previous game state (picking a card) and outside the scope of this task." 2011-07-13 16:43:55+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: yes 2011-07-13 16:44:18+0000 <mtyaka> but looking at the video, after the card is animated to it's final (centered) position... 2011-07-13 16:44:55+0000 <mtyaka> ...the card just changes the size and the text input appears above - there is no animation at all 2011-07-13 16:45:19+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: you are correct (just watched the video) 2011-07-13 16:45:21+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2011-07-13 16:45:40+0000 <dachary> the intended effect is that the card grows while moving to the final position 2011-07-13 16:45:53+0000 <dachary> I thought it showed on the video but I was mistaken 2011-07-13 16:46:02+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: do you confirm this is what should be done ? 2011-07-13 16:46:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ^ 2011-07-13 16:47:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap, I confirm 2011-07-13 16:47:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> as I told you guys, this animation is really rough, I'm sorry 2011-07-13 16:48:30+0000 <mtyaka> ok, understood 2011-07-13 16:48:33+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I updated the description with this description http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/221 2011-07-13 16:48:39+0000 <antoviaque> yup, you'll have more time to fine tune the animations tartarugafeliz - the idea now is more to have something basic that works, we can make it prettier afterwards : ) 2011-07-13 16:48:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2011-07-13 17:01:44+0000 <mtyaka> one final question: i should probably wait for antoviaque to finish #220 before I can start working on #221? 2011-07-13 17:02:59+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, good question, what do you think, Xavier? 2011-07-13 17:03:56+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I don't think it matters much. Moving the card is relatively independant of the integration. Of course the actual values depend on the integration. If Xavier was finished you could use the values he set. Since he is not finished, he will need to change the value you set arbitrarily. 2011-07-13 17:04:36+0000 <dachary> Unless I'm missing something the interaction between your work and xavier work is about the position of the div containing the card, the start size and the target size. 2011-07-13 17:05:09+0000 <antoviaque> Yup, I can merge your work and adapt it mtyaka 2011-07-13 17:06:49+0000 <mtyaka> ok, cool, I'll see what I can do 2011-07-13 17:22:36+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: the chosen card on the .cardstories_write_sentence page is currently shown as a background-image. It would be much easier to animate if the card was an actual img element... would it be possible to make it an actual img? 2011-07-13 17:23:02+0000 <antoviaque> yup, I'm arriving at that point, and I was thinking the same 2011-07-13 17:24:04+0000 <mtyaka> great 2011-07-13 17:24:58+0000 <antoviaque> however I'm not sure how dachary want to handle this 2011-07-13 17:25:36+0000 <antoviaque> since right now the urls are defined in the CSS, it would break the current policy I think 2011-07-13 17:26:19+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: i think you have no choice but to make it an img 2011-07-13 17:46:40+0000 tartarugafeliz1 (tartarugafeliz1) is now online 2011-07-13 17:47:49+0000 <mtyaka> i have a bit of a problem... the animation should be fairly easy to do, but much of it depends on the layout - how is the image positioned (absolute, relative, static..), how is it centered (with auto margins? do I need to animate the left property, too?..) 2011-07-13 17:48:26+0000 <arbrandes> Maybe antoviaque can help there ^ 2011-07-13 17:48:51+0000 <mtyaka> but the real problem is that I cannot think very well anymore because I am getting rather sleepy (it'll be 2 am here)... 2011-07-13 17:49:53+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: if you want I can push how it is now, so you can have a look - I've left the center image for the end though, so you can chose what works best for you on that part 2011-07-13 17:49:53+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: at what time does the sprint end? 2011-07-13 17:49:55+0000 <arbrandes> I see! I don't work very well at 2 am either. :) 2011-07-13 17:50:07+0000 <antoviaque> but of course that won't help with sleepiness ;p 2011-07-13 17:50:12+0000 <mtyaka> :) 2011-07-13 17:50:30+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: you should assume the card is initialy positioned with what is best for you. 2011-07-13 17:50:47+0000 <dachary> I suppose absolute positioning will be easier. 2011-07-13 17:50:55+0000 <antoviaque> it's all absolute yep 2011-07-13 17:51:35+0000 <antoviaque> and no auto centering, it's all position by pixel - thought that would be easier for you too 2011-07-13 17:53:36+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: auto centering would be a bit easier here since then I wouldn't have to worry about keeping the image centered while it is enlarging 2011-07-13 17:53:56+0000 <mtyaka> but absolute positioning will work too 2011-07-13 17:54:22+0000 <antoviaque> as you prefer - tell me and I will execute : ) 2011-07-13 17:55:44+0000 <mtyaka> if it doesn't complicate things on your end, then an auto centered image would be the best :) 2011-07-13 17:57:40+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-07-13 17:58:46+0000 <arbrandes> also, mtyaka, I think everybody would agree that this is not a sweatshop. :) If you don't want to work on this anymore tonight, we'll figure something out. Maybe we can extend the sprint until tomorrow. 2011-07-13 17:59:00+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, what do you think? ^ 2011-07-13 18:03:02+0000 <arbrandes> lol, you're out of luck, mtyaka :) 2011-07-13 18:03:21+0000 <mtyaka> hehe :) 2011-07-13 18:08:39+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 18:15:29+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 18:16:10+0000 <mtyaka> i have a good and a bad news... 2011-07-13 18:16:52+0000 <mtyaka> the bad one is that i really need to go to sleep now (i told you i was a pig :)) and will not be able to finish my sprint task in time 2011-07-13 18:17:48+0000 <mtyaka> the good one is that I managed to finish the chat plugin task (although I'll need to go through what i've done again tomorrow, because I might have missed something due to the sleepiness) 2011-07-13 18:18:47+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: no worries, it's not good to keep trying when we are tired : ) 2011-07-13 18:19:25+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2011-07-13 18:19:33+0000 <antoviaque> you can finish tomorrow, it's fine with me 2011-07-13 18:19:43+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: master scrum, what do you think? : ) 2011-07-13 18:20:16+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, I'm fine with it. This is actually one of the corner cases I wanted to see in a very (*very*) distributed team. :) 2011-07-13 18:20:46+0000 <arbrandes_> We're going to have to be flexible with sprint end times, foreseeing 12 hour timezone differences. 2011-07-13 18:21:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: yup, sounds good 2011-07-13 18:21:14+0000 <antoviaque> I'll grab a bite - brb 2011-07-13 18:21:20+0000 <arbrandes_> roger that 2011-07-13 18:21:22+0000 <antoviaque> and thanks for persisting mtyaka! : ) 2011-07-13 18:21:29+0000 <arbrandes_> yeah, thanks, mtyaka 2011-07-13 18:21:46+0000 <mtyaka> it was a pleasure while i was still managing to keep my eyes open :) 2011-07-13 18:22:35+0000 <mtyaka> have a good sprint! 2011-07-13 18:22:39+0000 <mtyaka> see you tomorrow 2011-07-13 18:22:49+0000 <arbrandes_> see you, mtyaka 2011-07-13 19:57:57+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 19:59:23+0000 <antoviaque> re : ) 2011-07-13 19:59:36+0000 <arbrandes_> Not much, I'm afraid :) 2011-07-13 19:59:45+0000 * antoviaque is resuming work, full of pancakes 2011-07-13 19:59:50+0000 <antoviaque> not much? 2011-07-13 20:00:03+0000 <arbrandes_> Not much happened while you were gone: 2011-07-13 20:00:04+0000 <arbrandes_> * antoviaque has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-07-13 20:00:04+0000 <arbrandes_> * antoviaque ([email protected]) has joined #farsides 2011-07-13 20:00:09+0000 <arbrandes_> :) 2011-07-13 20:00:10+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah 2011-07-13 20:00:25+0000 <arbrandes_> Hmmmmm pancakes.... 2011-07-13 20:00:29+0000 <antoviaque> just came back from eating - moved my computer : ) 2011-07-13 20:00:31+0000 <arbrandes_> Good idea for tomorrow's breakfast 2011-07-13 20:00:35+0000 <antoviaque> hehe 2011-07-13 20:00:49+0000 <antoviaque> I make good ones, I'll need to prepare some for you :D 2011-07-13 20:01:19+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: send 10 pancakes to arbrandes_ 2011-07-13 20:01:19+0000 <eve> antoviaque: *blink* 2011-07-13 20:01:23+0000 <antoviaque> thx 2011-07-13 20:01:25+0000 <arbrandes_> Ahhh, already looking forward to that, I absolutely love pancakes 2011-07-13 20:01:31+0000 <arbrandes_> lol 2011-07-13 20:01:32+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-13 20:02:13+0000 <antoviaque> How much work do you have on top of my CSS? I don't want to hold you back until late 2011-07-13 20:02:22+0000 <antoviaque> I thin I have 1-2 hours left of work 2011-07-13 20:02:26+0000 <antoviaque> think 2011-07-13 20:02:49+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, mine's going to be easy, but I need mtyaka's work first and foremost 2011-07-13 20:02:56+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh 2011-07-13 20:03:06+0000 <antoviaque> so you're only going to be able to work on it tomorrow 2011-07-13 20:03:09+0000 <arbrandes_> yup 2011-07-13 20:03:15+0000 <arbrandes_> I've been back on #149 for a while now 2011-07-13 20:03:26+0000 <antoviaque> ok, that removes some pressure - I can move forward peacefully : ) 2011-07-13 20:03:34+0000 <arbrandes_> Yes, please do! :) 2011-07-13 20:03:43+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2011-07-13 20:03:55+0000 <antoviaque> how is it going with facebook? not suffering too much? 2011-07-13 20:04:51+0000 <arbrandes_> Not really, it's been more a question of understanding the best way to go about it in terms of user model, independence of the official SDK, etc. 2011-07-13 20:05:12+0000 <arbrandes_> (btw, the official Python SDK sucks, according to ... well, everybody, lol) 2011-07-13 20:05:19+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha 2011-07-13 20:05:49+0000 <antoviaque> I'm not surprised - not much good comes out of facebook technically : ) 2011-07-13 20:06:11+0000 <arbrandes_> Yeah, it figures... hehehehe 2011-07-13 20:06:24+0000 <antoviaque> found the plugin on which to base your dev? 2011-07-13 20:07:16+0000 <arbrandes_> I'm using three points on which to base my work: django-facebook, Django-facebook, and a very neat snippet on djangosnippets (http://djangosnippets.org/snippets/2065/). 2011-07-13 20:07:39+0000 <arbrandes_> The best is the snippet: it's completely independent of libraries, and simple to boot. 2011-07-13 20:08:29+0000 <arbrandes_> (of Facebook libraries, I mean) 2011-07-13 20:09:05+0000 <arbrandes_> However, I'm studying the other two in order to glean further insights and avoid potential pitfalls. 2011-07-13 20:11:22+0000 <antoviaque> yup, given how unstable the facebook environment is, basing things on a small and maintainable snippet like this could save some hair of your head : ) 2011-07-13 20:11:39+0000 <arbrandes_> My feelings, exactly! :)) 2011-07-13 20:11:58+0000 <antoviaque> you don't get the abstraction level you can get with a full library, but with facebook, you're lucky if it works at all, so ;p 2011-07-13 20:12:01+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2011-07-13 20:12:12+0000 <arbrandes_> yup :) 2011-07-13 21:12:11+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2011-07-13 23:22:14+0000 lincoln_ (lincoln_) is now online 2011-07-13 23:22:24+0000 <lincoln_> hey there :) 2011-07-13 23:23:00+0000 <arbrandes> Greetings, compatriot! :) 2011-07-13 23:23:26+0000 <lincoln_> :) 2011-07-13 23:29:52+0000 antoviaque1 (antoviaque1) is now online 2011-07-13 23:48:14+0000 <antoviaque1> hi lincoln_ : ) 2011-07-13 23:48:37+0000 <antoviaque1> glad to see you! how have you been? 2011-07-13 23:49:02+0000 <antoviaque1> arbrandes: finished #220 btw : ) http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/220 2011-07-13 23:51:00+0000 <arbrandes> woof, it's a biggy, too. cool :) 2011-07-13 23:51:59+0000 <arbrandes> It'll also make it easier for mtyaka tomorrow 2011-07-13 23:52:01+0000 <arbrandes> Kewl :) 2011-07-13 23:52:02+0000 <lincoln_> antoviaque1, hehe, working a lot, but it's starting to get easier to manage my time! :) 2011-07-13 23:52:15+0000 <antoviaque1> arbrandes: :) 2011-07-13 23:53:14+0000 <antoviaque1> lincoln_: got any chance to migrate the whole of Brazil to free software already? :D 2011-07-13 23:53:35+0000 <lincoln_> hauhauhau, not yet, but I'm working on it! 2011-07-13 23:54:01+0000 <arbrandes> whoa, somebody's doing that? awesome! :) 2011-07-13 23:54:25+0000 <antoviaque1> ahahahah : ) how are your projects so far?
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