Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-07-27.


2011-07-27 00:23:38+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-07-27 06:56:48+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-07-27 07:41:33+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-07-27 07:41:39+0000 <antoviaque1> hi!
2011-07-27 07:42:01+0000 <dachary> hi
2011-07-27 07:47:47+0000 blanchard1 (blanchard1) is now online
2011-07-27 08:57:40+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-07-27 08:59:31+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-07-27 09:01:43+0000 <blanchard1> herr dachary, if you're around. Hello and 
question for you
2011-07-27 09:01:50+0000 <dachary> sure
2011-07-27 09:01:56+0000 <dachary> hi :-)
2011-07-27 09:02:11+0000 <dachary> blanchard1: would you have time to talk 
about farsides today ? 
2011-07-27 09:03:04+0000 <blanchard1> If you had to estimate the % of the work 
done on CS that can be considered as R&D, what would you say ? (it's related to 
the INNET progam)
2011-07-27 09:03:13+0000 <blanchard1> and please please don't say 0 :)
2011-07-27 09:04:03+0000 <blanchard1> dachary: I'd love to talk about farsides. 
Today is going to be a little difficult though the day is a bit full, can we do 
that tomorrow for instance ?
2011-07-27 09:05:08+0000 <dachary> blanchard1: tomorrow is good, yes
2011-07-27 09:05:14+0000 <blanchard1> cool
2011-07-27 09:06:46+0000 <dachary> blanchard1: I think 75% of the work can be 
R&D. It requires a little bullshiting but it can be done.
2011-07-27 09:08:05+0000 <blanchard1> thanks. Possible to give me the main 
bullshit justification in one sentence pretty please ?
2011-07-27 09:10:22+0000 <blanchard1> dachary: ^
2011-07-27 09:11:28+0000 * dachary thinking
2011-07-27 09:11:46+0000 <blanchard1> actually no hurry
2011-07-27 09:11:59+0000 <blanchard1> i'll use the 75% we can justify later
2011-07-27 09:12:05+0000 <blanchard1> dachary: ^
2011-07-27 09:15:40+0000 <blanchard1> tartarugafeliz: hello :) I'm looking for 
licon font for IE (licon.eot) but I can't find it
2011-07-27 09:15:45+0000 <blanchard1> any idea ?
2011-07-27 09:15:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I have no idea what this is...
2011-07-27 09:16:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I only have the ttf
2011-07-27 09:16:25+0000 <blanchard1> yeah I found it too, but i can't find the 
other extensions for the font
2011-07-27 09:16:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> there are no other extensions.
2011-07-27 09:16:36+0000 <blanchard1> and from what i understand, IE likes .EOT
2011-07-27 09:16:42+0000 <blanchard1> 
http://sixrevisions.com/css/font-face-guide/
2011-07-27 09:16:44+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I hate IE
2011-07-27 09:16:48+0000 <blanchard1> :)
2011-07-27 09:16:59+0000 <dachary> "Résolution des verrous technologiques 
liés à l'interaction asynchrone d'utilisateurs d'une application en ligne 
dans un cadre ludique et compétitif. L'accent est mis sur la mise en oeuvre et 
l'innovation ergonomique nécessaire à l'integration intuitive de nouveaux 
entrants."
2011-07-27 09:17:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you can use helvetica for this stupid 
browser to understand if you want
2011-07-27 09:17:06+0000 <dachary> blanchard1: ^
2011-07-27 09:17:21+0000 <blanchard1> dachary: impressive :D
2011-07-27 09:17:32+0000 <antoviaque1> blanchard: 
http://www.kirsle.net/wizards/ttf2eot.cgi
2011-07-27 09:17:38+0000 <blanchard1> thx a lot
2011-07-27 09:17:41+0000 <antoviaque1> :)
2011-07-27 09:17:42+0000 <dachary> yw :-)
2011-07-27 09:18:15+0000 <blanchard1> thx antoviaque1 !
2011-07-27 09:18:23+0000 <antoviaque1> dachary: professional bullshitter :D
2011-07-27 09:20:33+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-27 09:21:24+0000 <dachary> antoviaque1: I hate doing it. But I do when 
paid a lot of money :-D
2011-07-27 09:21:33+0000 <antoviaque1> hehehe : )
2011-07-27 09:21:44+0000 <antoviaque1> that's what bullshot is for isn't it? : )
2011-07-27 09:21:49+0000 <antoviaque1> *bullshit
2011-07-27 09:22:02+0000 <dachary> so it seems ;-)
2011-07-27 09:22:51+0000 <arbrandes> hey doods
2011-07-27 09:23:30+0000 <dachary> I've received a note from the IRS yesterday 
announcing me that they agree with the bullshit I've sent them. This is 
impressive. I would be curious to know the approval process.
2011-07-27 09:24:24+0000 <blanchard1> hey arbrandes :)
2011-07-27 09:24:58+0000 <arbrandes> morning blanchard1!  See the note I put on 
redmine?  There's an online font converter for @font-face
2011-07-27 09:25:28+0000 <blanchard1> ah cool I didn't see yet ! antoviaque1 
gave me one 5mn ago :)
2011-07-27 09:25:39+0000 <arbrandes> hahaha, ok, it's probably the same one
2011-07-27 09:25:44+0000 <antoviaque1> hehe - beat you arbrandes :D
2011-07-27 09:25:46+0000 <antoviaque1> hello!
2011-07-27 09:25:48+0000 <arbrandes> :P
2011-07-27 09:25:53+0000 <arbrandes> hi antoviaque1, hehehe
2011-07-27 09:29:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> arbrandes: I won't be able to 
participate on the meeting today...
2011-07-27 09:29:59+0000 <tartarugafeliz> is it ok if I give my report now? :)
2011-07-27 09:30:07+0000 <arbrandes> hi tartarugafeliz!  alright, go ahead :)
2011-07-27 09:30:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I did the home page as everyone saw, 
and I'll wait for lulis to send the comics so I can illustrate everything
2011-07-27 09:31:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and today I'll start working on the 
animation of the characters on the top of the page
2011-07-27 09:31:29+0000 <arbrandes> Oooo, there's animation, too?  Awesome. :)
2011-07-27 09:31:46+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D yes, I want to make a very 
"WOOOOW" first page
2011-07-27 09:31:59+0000 <arbrandes> Good idea
2011-07-27 09:32:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> to give a lot of confidence and 
professionalism feeling to the players and to the potential investors too
2011-07-27 09:32:23+0000 <antoviaque1> :D
2011-07-27 09:32:27+0000 <arbrandes> Yeah, gotta bring in lots of both :)
2011-07-27 09:32:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll also work on an animation to 
help david's presentations too
2011-07-27 09:32:44+0000 <blanchard1> coooool :)
2011-07-27 09:32:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> to give better the feeling of the 
game, so he doesn't have to explain a lot
2011-07-27 09:32:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-07-27 09:33:56+0000 <arbrandes> Cool, thanks tartarugafeliz 
2011-07-27 09:34:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> do you need anything?
2011-07-27 09:34:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> anyone need anything, sliced 
images… info?
2011-07-27 09:34:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> is everything ok? hhaha
2011-07-27 09:34:34+0000 <arbrandes> Not yet, thanks, I haven't caught up yet 
with your work. :)
2011-07-27 09:34:41+0000 <blanchard1> all good :)
2011-07-27 09:34:42+0000 <arbrandes> Hahahhaa, yes, everything is ok ;)
2011-07-27 09:35:12+0000 <antoviaque1> thanks tartarugafeliz : )
2011-07-27 09:35:21+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool!
2011-07-27 09:40:39+0000 <arbrandes> awesome
2011-07-27 09:40:43+0000 <antoviaque1> :)
2011-07-27 09:41:01+0000 <arbrandes> Look ma!  No Flash!
2011-07-27 09:41:02+0000 <antoviaque1> is it smooth the streaming to Brazil?
2011-07-27 09:41:07+0000 <arbrandes> It's excellent
2011-07-27 09:41:08+0000 <antoviaque1> hehe, of course ;p
2011-07-27 09:41:49+0000 <antoviaque1> Was actually the biggest part of the 
work, to get those &*($( videos to run well ;p
2011-07-27 09:44:25+0000 <arbrandes> this is awesome antoviaque1, great work, 
great idea
2011-07-27 09:44:36+0000 <antoviaque1> glad you like it :)
2011-07-27 09:55:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> bbl you guys!
2011-07-27 09:55:21+0000 <arbrandes> see you!
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2011-07-27 12:23:12+0000 <dachary> the tests are "subscribe and 
subscribe_validation_error right mtyaka
2011-07-27 12:23:13+0000 <dachary> ?
2011-07-27 12:23:28+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: right
2011-07-27 12:24:29+0000 <mtyaka> and on the 18th test the whole test suite 
hangs, without an error message
2011-07-27 12:32:04+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: it has todo (11/12) with cookies
2011-07-27 12:34:15+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-07-27 12:34:30+0000 <MCMic> there's a new humble indie bundle
2011-07-27 12:36:04+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: 
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/?cardstories%3A%20subscribe could you 
please check if it sets a cookie CARDSTORIES_ID before failing ? You may have 
to clear that cookie first. 
2011-07-27 12:42:43+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://browsershots.org/priority
2011-07-27 12:42:45+0000 <dachary> \o/
2011-07-27 12:42:55+0000 <dachary> the commercial offer is *hidden*
2011-07-27 12:42:58+0000 <dachary> wtf
2011-07-27 12:42:59+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-07-27 12:43:54+0000 <dachary> apparently browsershot and 
http://crossbrowsertesting.com/ are the saem
2011-07-27 12:48:17+0000 tempuramerino (tempuramerino) is now online
2011-07-27 12:49:15+0000 * dachary trying crossbrowsertesting with free trial
2011-07-27 12:49:48+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: can you see this page ? 
http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/dachary/screenshots/58359/79530
2011-07-27 12:49:54+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2011-07-27 12:50:11+0000 <dachary> or this one 
http://crossbrowsertesting.com/users/dachary/screenshot/z6ab96db8bd1caa37e0d
2011-07-27 12:51:16+0000 <dachary> there seems to be a problem with the 
validate function 
http://media.crossbrowsertesting.com/users/32545/screenshots/window/z6ab96db8bd1caa37e0d.png
2011-07-27 12:51:47+0000 <dachary> but only with IE8
2011-07-27 12:54:20+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think we will solve this by 
understanding exactly what happened when you could not submit the form as 
expected. If i remember correctly you banged your head against the walls and 
eventually resorted to using submit() because nothing else worked for a 
mysterious reason.
2011-07-27 12:56:13+0000 <antoviaque> uh, let me refresh my memories
2011-07-27 13:16:11+0000 <antoviaque> $ grep -A 3 antoviaque toto |grep -w 
submit
2011-07-27 13:16:12+0000 <antoviaque>     Adds validation of user email on 
'email' view. Removed the test on the "enter" key and binded on submit() 
instead, as jquery doesn't seem to trigger the submit event based on a fake 
click() or "enter" keypress.
2011-07-27 13:16:12+0000 <antoviaque>     fixes #37 - Subscribe view: Hitting 
enter in the email doesn't submit. Also renamed from "name" to "email" to take 
advantage of the browser autocompletion. Set cookies to 'null' value to unset 
them instead of '' in tests. Added functions to simulate keypress/keydown to 
allow to simulate the behaviour in tests
2011-07-27 13:18:00+0000 <antoviaque> the first line gives the answer I think: 
you remember correctly, I wasn't able to trigger it manually, the event was not 
firing
2011-07-27 13:20:08+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ^
2011-07-27 13:20:41+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: btw you took the free trial for 
http://crossbrowsertesting.com - what do you think? we take that one?
2011-07-27 13:22:12+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: i'm back
2011-07-27 13:22:27+0000 <mtyaka> it doesn't look like it sets a cookie before 
failing, should it?
2011-07-27 13:26:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, can you please approve 
estimation on http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/258#note-3?  (sorry for the 
post-estimation, forgot to check with you this morning)
2011-07-27 13:35:30+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: no worries, thanks for caring 
:p And the 3 hours are fine :)
2011-07-27 13:35:52+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: it seems to be the same people
2011-07-27 13:36:11+0000 <dachary> the basic subscription looks good
2011-07-27 13:36:16+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: how, that's why they have hidden 
the commercial offer maybe? :)
2011-07-27 13:36:19+0000 <arbrandes> thanks, antoviaque :)
2011-07-27 13:36:23+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: yes it should
2011-07-27 13:36:23+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2011-07-27 13:36:47+0000 <arbrandes> brb, the weather's nice, gonna program 
from the pool :P
2011-07-27 13:36:51+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: from what I understand the 
validation is not firing, it's not a cookie problem
2011-07-27 13:36:59+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ahahah, lucky you! enjoy ;p
2011-07-27 13:37:03+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: I think this is why, yes. 
2011-07-27 13:37:13+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ok, I'll create farsides' account
2011-07-27 13:37:52+0000 <dachary> 
http://media.crossbrowsertesting.com/users/32545/screenshots/window/z6ab96db8bd1caa37e0d.png
2011-07-27 13:37:56+0000 <dachary> can you see this ? 
2011-07-27 13:38:46+0000 <dachary> bbl
2011-07-27 13:42:09+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: no, i see a somewhat different error 
message on the "subscribe" test: 4th assertion fails with the same message 
(ajax function called, hence input validated)
2011-07-27 13:42:25+0000 <mtyaka> but the 5th assertion's message is: 5.Died on 
test #5: Unable to get value of the property 'replace': object is null or 
undefined - { "message": "Unable to get value of the property 'replace': object 
is null or undefined", "description": "Unable to get value of the property 
'replace': object is null or undefined", "number": -2146823281, "name": 
"TypeError" }
2011-07-27 13:44:51+0000 <mtyaka> and the funny thing now is that "subscribe" 
and "subscribe_validation_error" tests seem to fail in cycles - on one test 
run, the first one fails, then I refresh the page and the first one succeeds 
but the second one fails. If I refresh again, the second one succeeds and the 
first one fails again..... and so on.
2011-07-27 13:46:58+0000 <antoviaque> account created on 
crossbrowsertesting.com, sent by email 
2011-07-27 13:47:05+0000 <antoviaque> if you don't receive it let me know
2011-07-27 13:47:30+0000 <antoviaque> currently in free trial, should upgrade 
automatically to basic subscription at the end (if not let me know)
2011-07-27 13:48:45+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2011-07-27 13:58:10+0000 <dachary> back
2011-07-27 13:59:37+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: this flip / flop is probably a side 
effect of the cookie not being set
2011-07-27 14:00:02+0000 <dachary> the "4th assertion fails with the same 
message (ajax function called, hence input validated)" is the true source of 
the problem
2011-07-27 14:01:05+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: where should I post my 121 ? 
2011-07-27 14:01:12+0000 <dachary> I forgot ..
2011-07-27 14:01:16+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: HR : )
2011-07-27 14:01:19+0000 <dachary> k
2011-07-27 14:07:02+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: promised I would ask the next 
time : ) DSA 2286-1 "phpmyadmin security update" makes me want to do my regular 
apt-get dist-upgrade routine - any objection? maybe not on cardstories.org?
2011-07-27 14:08:23+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: The following packages will be 
REMOVED:
2011-07-27 14:08:23+0000 <dachary>   phpmyadmin
2011-07-27 14:08:23+0000 <dachary> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove 
and 11 not upgraded.
2011-07-27 14:08:29+0000 <dachary> maintainance done
2011-07-27 14:08:32+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: :-D
2011-07-27 14:08:59+0000 <dachary> on cardstories that is
2011-07-27 14:09:00+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2011-07-27 14:09:06+0000 <dachary> ahaha
2011-07-27 14:09:18+0000 <antoviaque> ok, so cardstories is ok
2011-07-27 14:10:12+0000 <antoviaque> the only issue for me is that I don't do 
a *complete* check, I just sometimes jump on an obvious one (like phpmyadmin) 
and then use the opportunity to make sure everything is up  to date everywhere
2011-07-27 14:10:31+0000 <antoviaque> so it means that I could let some 
vulnerabilities, that do affect cardstories.org, slip
2011-07-27 14:11:26+0000 <antoviaque> but you admin this machine, so it's up to 
you : )
2011-07-27 14:11:51+0000 * antoviaque upgrading the other servers :)
2011-07-27 14:13:31+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: mtyaka what's the magic key on 
ie8 to display the console / debug ? 
2011-07-27 14:13:35+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard2, your info box looks exactly 
like the mockup, congrats
2011-07-27 14:13:41+0000 <dachary> F12 
2011-07-27 14:13:52+0000 <mtyaka> F12, yes
2011-07-27 14:14:00+0000 <blanchard2> arbrandes: i'm so proud, thanks :p
2011-07-27 14:14:01+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, dunno, dude, I don't think I've 
ever actually used it
2011-07-27 14:14:32+0000 <blanchard2> arbrandes: but the test part of the 
ticket i didn't know what to do
2011-07-27 14:14:41+0000 <blanchard2> (test/index.html)
2011-07-27 14:15:41+0000 * dachary using the ie8 live view of 
crossbrowsertesting
2011-07-27 14:15:42+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard2, don't worry, in this case it's 
pretty simple, I'll do it myself on #249, where I'm integrating your work.  But 
just so you know, static/index.html has a sistem in static/test/index.html, 
which is used for the javascript tests.
2011-07-27 14:15:52+0000 <arbrandes> *has a sister
2011-07-27 14:16:18+0000 <blanchard2> arbrandes: ok thx!
2011-07-27 14:16:28+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I can see the flip flop now
2011-07-27 14:16:31+0000 <blanchard2> you have a sister ?
2011-07-27 14:16:31+0000 <dachary> this is weird
2011-07-27 14:16:59+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard2, hahaha, yes (2 actually), but 
I was referring to index.html :P
2011-07-27 14:17:04+0000 <blanchard2> :)
2011-07-27 14:18:53+0000 <antoviaque> I just realised - dachary, what about 
z2-6 itself?
2011-07-27 14:18:54+0000 <antoviaque> 408 upgraded, 91 newly installed, 3 to 
remove and 0 not upgraded.
2011-07-27 14:18:54+0000 <antoviaque> Need to get 547MB of archives.
2011-07-27 14:19:31+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: z2-6 DON'T !
2011-07-27 14:19:34+0000 <dachary> hush
2011-07-27 14:19:38+0000 <dachary> hush hush
2011-07-27 14:19:38+0000 <antoviaque> that's why I ask : )
2011-07-27 14:19:42+0000 <dachary> tst
2011-07-27 14:19:43+0000 <dachary> ouch
2011-07-27 14:19:45+0000 <dachary> psst
2011-07-27 14:19:48+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2011-07-27 14:19:48+0000 <antoviaque> ahahahaha
2011-07-27 14:20:21+0000 <dachary> the only thing you need to worry about 
regarding z2-6 is if you learn of a security problem on shorewall / iptables
2011-07-27 14:20:32+0000 <dachary> it exposes nothing to the public
2011-07-27 14:20:51+0000 <dachary> and all people who can login are fully 
trusted to not do things that are harmful 
2011-07-27 14:21:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok - so it doesn't have any apache proxy 
or anything?
2011-07-27 14:21:05+0000 <dachary> no
2011-07-27 14:21:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok, cool
2011-07-27 14:21:13+0000 <dachary> it does *nothing*
2011-07-27 14:21:24+0000 <dachary> but iptables driven by shorewall
2011-07-27 14:28:52+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: test 11 by itself always run fine it 
seems
2011-07-27 14:31:13+0000 <dachary> it's therefore not an issue with .submit 
itself
2011-07-27 14:32:29+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: test 12 also seems to run fine when 
run by itself
2011-07-27 14:33:29+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: could you try 
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/?cardstories%3A%20subscribe ? 
2011-07-27 14:33:44+0000 <dachary> (I excluded test 12 by prepending an X to 
its name)
2011-07-27 14:34:23+0000 <mtyaka> just wanted to ask you what trick you use to 
run 11 by itself :)
2011-07-27 14:35:40+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: yes, i'm seeing the same - 11 runs 
fine by itself
2011-07-27 14:36:10+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: thanks. This is über strange
2011-07-27 14:36:18+0000 <mtyaka> this is getting more and more entertaining
2011-07-27 14:36:33+0000 <mtyaka> hehe, yes. well IE is a fascinating browser
2011-07-27 14:45:36+0000 <arbrandes> lol, mtyaka ^
2011-07-27 14:46:39+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: could you try  
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/ a few times ? 
2011-07-27 14:47:06+0000 <dachary> the only thing I did was to add an *empy* 
test before subscribe and it flip / flops
2011-07-27 14:49:16+0000 <mtyaka> dachary:  my connection is super slow at the 
moment
2011-07-27 14:49:32+0000 <mtyaka> i can't seem to be able to run the tests on 
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/
2011-07-27 14:49:44+0000 <dachary> I'll manage, np ;-)
2011-07-27 14:50:28+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, can I help?
2011-07-27 14:51:12+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: if you can confirm that 
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/ runs ok 50% of the time, yes :-)
2011-07-27 14:51:33+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: when tests seem to error up in 
strange inconsistent ways, I often found the reason was that I was stubbing a 
function in a test and then forgot to establish the original function back 
before the next test. could something like that be the reason for the flip/flop?
2011-07-27 14:51:49+0000 * arbrandes trying
2011-07-27 14:52:08+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, +1, I've hit that wall before
2011-07-27 14:52:19+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: I doubt it. 
http://cardstories.org/dev/static/test/test.js has been reduced to the bare 
minimum ;-)
2011-07-27 14:53:21+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: oh, i see :)
2011-07-27 14:53:37+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: now i managed to run the tests
2011-07-27 14:53:58+0000 <mtyaka> the empty one runs ok (obviously), while the 
second one errors out with the same message as before 
2011-07-27 14:54:59+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: always errors ? or 50% of the time ? 
2011-07-27 14:55:14+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, first try, failed test #2 
subscribe
2011-07-27 14:55:25+0000 <arbrandes> F5-ing...
2011-07-27 14:55:44+0000 <dachary> (I added a console.log => please F12 before 
running)
2011-07-27 14:56:04+0000 <arbrandes> 3-for-3, fail on #2
2011-07-27 14:56:08+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: ^
2011-07-27 14:56:12+0000 <arbrandes> Pressing F12...
2011-07-27 14:56:19+0000 <dachary> thanks, sorry for the inconvenience
2011-07-27 14:56:53+0000 <arbrandes> fourth try, tests passed (!!)
2011-07-27 14:57:04+0000 <arbrandes> Console log: HEEEEEEEE
2011-07-27 14:57:08+0000 <arbrandes> (or something to that effect :)
2011-07-27 14:57:18+0000 <mtyaka> dachary: they both passed now
2011-07-27 14:57:43+0000 <mtyaka> (this was the second time i was able to get 
them to run, my connection is playing tricks on me)
2011-07-27 14:57:57+0000 <mtyaka> aha, 3rd time, fail again
2011-07-27 14:58:20+0000 <arbrandes> fifth time, fail
2011-07-27 14:58:24+0000 <arbrandes> Ack, can't copy paste the log!
2011-07-27 14:58:38+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: :-)
2011-07-27 14:58:49+0000 <arbrandes> TypeError: $.cookie... is not null or not 
an object
2011-07-27 14:58:50+0000 <mtyaka> ... and 4th time, success
2011-07-27 14:59:04+0000 <mtyaka> i think you're right, it only fails 50% of 
the time
2011-07-27 14:59:14+0000 <mtyaka> good enough? :P
2011-07-27 14:59:19+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: mtyaka thanks for trying. I'll 
reduce this flip / flop even further to nail it down.
2011-07-27 14:59:44+0000 <arbrandes> Sixth time, success
2011-07-27 14:59:51+0000 <arbrandes> dachary, np!
2011-07-27 15:00:27+0000 <mtyaka> yup, np, will be curious to find out the 
reason
2011-07-27 15:00:47+0000 <dachary> I confirmed that the .validate is not called 
(not just the ajax)
2011-07-27 15:03:50+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, estimated: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/249
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2011-07-27 15:19:19+0000 <dachary> arbrandes: mtyaka here is the spoiler : 
http://cardstories.org/trac/changeset/f55a6be59a43b8ce414c046d3744e1b85e9b73ef/ 
2011-07-27 15:19:32+0000 <dachary> naming of the input had nothing to do with 
it but I changed it anyway
2011-07-27 15:21:02+0000 <dachary> test 12 still fails but test 11 (subscribe) 
now consistently runs
2011-07-27 15:24:47+0000 <mtyaka> i see... should submit the form rather then 
the submit button. interesting that submitting the button works consistently on 
other browsers (including IE9)
2011-07-27 15:26:43+0000 <dachary> mtyaka: yes. That being said there are a 
number of things you can do with the libc , violating the ISO specifications, 
that would work *almost* everywhere and yet fail in very strange ways.
2011-07-27 15:27:02+0000 <dachary> s/fail in/sometime fail in/
2011-07-27 15:31:10+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: good for me on #249 - thanks!
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