Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2011-11-24.


2011-11-24 07:46:56+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-24 08:18:29+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-24 09:35:14+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2011-11-24 09:47:55+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-24 10:14:35+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: hello!
2011-11-24 10:14:46+0000 <antoviaque> ups, sorry, I forgot about the 
attestation de non paiement
2011-11-24 10:15:58+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: I'm actually a bit confused - 
I thought it was for Farsides - what is it again?
2011-11-24 10:16:45+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2011-11-24 10:22:16+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i think you needed this for 
the assedic, nope ?
2011-11-24 10:37:10+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ah! yep, I see now : )
2011-11-24 10:37:28+0000 <antoviaque> yes, for Farsides, for puttting the 
dossier there
2011-11-24 10:37:44+0000 <blanchard> phone
2011-11-24 10:37:55+0000 <blanchard> (potential investor :p)
2011-11-24 10:38:04+0000 <antoviaque> ok - so it's good, it just needs to be 
Farsides named in it (and not Flouzo ;) and signed yep
2011-11-24 10:38:09+0000 <antoviaque> ahaha, cool - ok!
2011-11-24 10:38:20+0000 <antoviaque> do you need something from me on this?
2011-11-24 10:45:02+0000 <blanchard> back
2011-11-24 10:45:22+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: no i don't think so, I'll 
change the name and ask Magalie to sign it
2011-11-24 10:47:57+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: I've got 1000 actions to share 
with Deb and you, the count is not round (333x3+1), who gets the last one, I 
can keep it it or we can do a "tirage au sort" :p
2011-11-24 10:53:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh, it's true ahahaha
2011-11-24 10:54:13+0000 <antoviaque> I don't know about tartarugafeliz, but 
for me it's fine if you keep it : )
2011-11-24 10:54:35+0000 <blanchard> we could decide that with a CS game 
antoviaque but there's not always one and only one winner ;)
2011-11-24 10:55:01+0000 <antoviaque> that would be good for the legend of 
Farsides ;p
2011-11-24 10:55:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha
2011-11-24 10:55:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you can keep it!
2011-11-24 10:55:34+0000 <blanchard> i would already know who is going to get 
the remaining share then
2011-11-24 10:55:43+0000 <blanchard> it's not me and it's not antoviaque ;)
2011-11-24 10:55:58+0000 <antoviaque> damn, mtyaka will get it, it's true :p
2011-11-24 10:56:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahahahah
2011-11-24 10:56:05+0000 <blanchard> haha
2011-11-24 10:56:46+0000 <antoviaque> brb, some preparation to do for 
tomorrow's flight
2011-11-24 13:33:10+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: start dailymeeting
2011-11-24 13:33:10+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2011-11-24 13:33:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Finished first draft of 
possible upcoming features (#645 Players earn points for each game they played, 
#646 Players join ”tables” when they arrive in the game, #648 Players earn 
levels and cards), discussions on stats/funnels/retention with dachary
2011-11-24 13:33:29+0000 <eve> Done: Finished first draft of possible upcoming 
features (#645 Players earn points for each game they played, #646 Players join 
”tables” when they arrive in the game, #648 Players earn levels and cards), 
discussions on stats/funnels/retention with dachary
2011-11-24 13:33:30+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Answer blanchard and mtyaka on 
the new stories (thanks for the comments btw!), prepare going to Thailand, and 
fly tomorrow :D
2011-11-24 13:33:30+0000 <eve> Next: Answer blanchard and mtyaka on the new 
stories (thanks for the comments btw!), prepare going to Thailand, and fly 
tomorrow :D
2011-11-24 13:33:30+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers Won't be able to attend the 
meeting tomorrow because of the flight (blanchard would you be able to cover 
for me on starting eve, etc.?)
2011-11-24 13:33:30+0000 <eve> Blockers: Won't be able to attend the meeting 
tomorrow because of the flight (blanchard would you be able to cover for me on 
starting eve, etc.?)
2011-11-24 13:33:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello!!
2011-11-24 13:33:46+0000 <antoviaque> hey tartarugafeliz : )
2011-11-24 13:34:04+0000 <blanchard> hi :)
2011-11-24 13:34:12+0000 <blanchard> lucky you
2011-11-24 13:34:16+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2011-11-24 13:34:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I really like those ideas, I'm going 
to print them and take with me on the airplane, this way I'll read with time 
and i'll write down my ideas about it
2011-11-24 13:34:35+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: cool :D
2011-11-24 13:34:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-11-24 13:34:53+0000 <blanchard> tomorrow I'm at school in the morning but 
I should be able to cover at 2.30 for the meeting yep
2011-11-24 13:34:57+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: ^
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I played the WHOLE day 
and evening.
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <eve> Done: I played the WHOLE day and evening
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'm organizing all my 
tasks for Farsides and my freelancers to go to Thailand tomorrow.
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <eve> Next: I'm organizing all my tasks for Farsides 
and my freelancers to go to Thailand tomorrow
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none
2011-11-24 13:35:03+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2011-11-24 13:35:09+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: cool, thanks!
2011-11-24 13:35:33+0000 <blanchard> eve, yesterday : discussion with BA (name 
is Olivier, will come to play CS in the coming days), some corporate work.
2011-11-24 13:35:33+0000 <eve> Done: : discussion with BA (name is Olivier, 
will come to play CS in the coming days), some corporate work
2011-11-24 13:35:33+0000 <blanchard> eve, today : corporate work (finish draft 
and send it to accountant for review), not much else (prep school).
2011-11-24 13:35:33+0000 <eve> Next: : corporate work (finish draft and send it 
to accountant for review), not much else (prep school)
2011-11-24 13:35:33+0000 <blanchard> eve, blockers : none
2011-11-24 13:35:34+0000 <eve> Blockers: : none
2011-11-24 13:36:26+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: yep, a good number of 
people came from pikaland, well done - and seem like a very well qualified 
target
2011-11-24 13:36:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-11-24 13:36:44+0000 <antoviaque> if you think of other places similar, 
could be worth trying them out too : )
2011-11-24 13:36:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I have other good places too
2011-11-24 13:37:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I'll do all of that in the airplane 
tomorrow. ahahahhaha
2011-11-24 13:37:09+0000 <antoviaque> need to check the numbers, but from a 
quali point of view it looked like a good operation
2011-11-24 13:37:19+0000 <antoviaque> cool : )
2011-11-24 13:37:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think so too, I never spent so much 
time uninterrupted playing like yesterday
2011-11-24 13:37:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and at night there was players 
playing by themselves too!
2011-11-24 13:37:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> it was cool
2011-11-24 13:38:05+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2011-11-24 13:38:28+0000 <blanchard> cool tartarugafeliz :)
2011-11-24 13:38:29+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: cool for the BA - where does 
he come from?
2011-11-24 13:38:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2011-11-24 13:39:12+0000 <antoviaque> btw if he comes in the following days, 
beware of tomorrow/saturday, we won't be in front of a computer until saturday 
night, so he might just find the game a bit empty :/
2011-11-24 13:39:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> can someone take care of that? :)
2011-11-24 13:40:08+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: he's the head of a ubisoft 
studio. Good thing is he's in charge of the one *very* big free to play game of 
ubi. So he knows pretty well the subject. Let's see if he likes CS now :)
2011-11-24 13:40:18+0000 <antoviaque> yey : )
2011-11-24 13:40:27+0000 <tartarugafeliz> of course he will like it!
2011-11-24 13:40:31+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its a very cool game!
2011-11-24 13:40:32+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2011-11-24 13:40:45+0000 <blanchard> i can try to be in the game from time to 
time (i'd like that) but i'm kind of running around currently, so I'll see what 
i can do
2011-11-24 13:41:26+0000 <antoviaque> then maybe we can propose to schedule 
something with him, so that he doesn't get stuck?
2011-11-24 13:41:36+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: it's a cool game, but he's 
more used to shooters and FPS so it's not his universe ;), we'll see if he's 
open to new genre :p
2011-11-24 13:41:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that could be a good idea
2011-11-24 13:41:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ahhh got it
2011-11-24 13:42:00+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: no worry for him I'll schedule 
something. I was more talking about my general presence for the players
2011-11-24 13:42:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, I understand that! :) its bad 
when I cannot stay every day, because I feel a huge impact on it when it happens
2011-11-24 13:43:00+0000 <blanchard> in the next 3-4 days i mean
2011-11-24 13:43:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> If I stay for 1 day away from the 
game I can feel that the players don't come so often anymore
2011-11-24 13:43:03+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ok : )
2011-11-24 13:43:03+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its crazy!
2011-11-24 13:43:19+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: I know, it makes a huge 
difference 
2011-11-24 13:43:29+0000 <antoviaque> yep, it's the people who come and don't 
find anyone to play with - then there is less incentive to come back again
2011-11-24 13:43:38+0000 <antoviaque> I agree that we probably lose a lot of 
people like that
2011-11-24 13:43:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz> probably
2011-11-24 13:44:12+0000 <antoviaque> okidok then - thanks for the help david! 
(especially to allow us to be on a plane for the sun :p )
2011-11-24 13:44:21+0000 <blanchard> hahaha
2011-11-24 13:44:36+0000 <blanchard> as long as you send postcards on 
buddypress i'm fine
2011-11-24 13:45:07+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah
2011-11-24 13:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> don't worry, we won't miss a chance to 
make you jaelous :D
2011-11-24 13:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: want to go next?
2011-11-24 13:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: something to add for yesterday? 
: )
2011-11-24 13:46:41+0000 <mtyaka> hello everybody :)
2011-11-24 13:46:43+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday No time for CS.
2011-11-24 13:46:43+0000 <eve> Done: No time for CS
2011-11-24 13:46:45+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Work on #619 (handle players with 
same names)
2011-11-24 13:46:45+0000 <eve> Next: Work on #619 (handle players with same 
names)
2011-11-24 13:46:45+0000 <antoviaque> heya : )
2011-11-24 13:46:46+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None
2011-11-24 13:46:46+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2011-11-24 13:47:17+0000 <mtyaka> Have a nice trip!
2011-11-24 13:47:21+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for taking the time to 
read/comment on the new stories : )
2011-11-24 13:47:26+0000 <antoviaque> aha, thanks : )
2011-11-24 13:47:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> cool!
2011-11-24 13:47:41+0000 <antoviaque> ever went to Thailand mtyaka? 
2011-11-24 13:47:50+0000 * antoviaque trying to get some good recommendations : 
)
2011-11-24 13:48:21+0000 <mtyaka> heh, unfortunately I have never been there.
2011-11-24 13:49:14+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i caught up with  the backlog 
of your discussion with dachary yesterday, very interesting. Would be great to 
push this further because comparison of this with qualitative feedback is 
extremely nurturing
2011-11-24 13:49:19+0000 <blanchard> i thought
2011-11-24 13:50:35+0000 <blanchard> by the way in the bp the rough lifetime 
revenue is 1€ (all registered users, not only paying)
2011-11-24 13:51:01+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ok : )
2011-11-24 13:51:29+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yep - you have some specific 
things in mind to push on?
2011-11-24 13:51:37+0000 <blanchard> cohorts :)
2011-11-24 13:52:11+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ah, agreed - there isn't much 
missing here, just the date of subscription missing
2011-11-24 13:52:33+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: and of paying users?
2011-11-24 13:52:50+0000 <blanchard> lifetime revenue ? around 17€ i think
2011-11-24 13:53:02+0000 <antoviaque> ok
2011-11-24 13:53:55+0000 <antoviaque> all good for today?
2011-11-24 13:53:58+0000 <blanchard> yep
2011-11-24 13:54:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve__: end dailymeeting
2011-11-24 13:54:07+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2011-11-24 13:54:07+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/512354
2011-11-24 13:54:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ys!
2011-11-24 13:54:14+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ups
2011-11-24 13:54:56+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: btw you said you wanted some 
clarifications on some of the stories from yesterday 
2011-11-24 13:55:30+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: I'll let you look at my 
comments on buddypress and we can discuss it beginning of next week ?
2011-11-24 13:55:41+0000 <antoviaque> okidok
2011-11-24 13:57:21+0000 <blanchard> actually antoviaque yep i have a quick 
question : in your mind, these new stories are higher priority than the 
previous that were discussed (online friends, management of games, and others i 
don't have in mind maybe) or not ?
2011-11-24 13:58:21+0000 <blanchard> btw I don't know how you had the idea of 
tables but it's an interesting direction i had not thought about
2011-11-24 13:58:57+0000 <antoviaque> I'm still a bit in the brainstorming 
mindset, so I haven't given too much thoughts on ordering - but at least the 
"tables" ones would allow to try to push for more direct interaction between 
players and less reliance of human prsence, so yep
2011-11-24 13:59:26+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: came from observations in 
game, during the higher traffic experiment
2011-11-24 13:59:29+0000 <blanchard> understood
2011-11-24 14:02:04+0000 <dachary> hi
2011-11-24 14:02:48+0000 <dachary> blanchard: antoviaque I have a few minutes 
to discuss the results if you want. 
2011-11-24 14:03:29+0000 <blanchard> dachary: hi. unfortunately i need to leave 
now, I'll be back later.
2011-11-24 14:03:45+0000 <blanchard> I don't have specific questions though 
your report is pretty clear :)
2011-11-24 14:04:32+0000 <blanchard> and I'm looking forward to looking into 
weekly cohorts :)
2011-11-24 14:04:51+0000 <dachary> ok
2011-11-24 14:05:21+0000 <dachary> I'm not sure what weekly cohorts should look 
like.
2011-11-24 14:05:52+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: hello : )
2011-11-24 14:06:42+0000 <antoviaque> brb phone
2011-11-24 14:08:21+0000 <antoviaque> re
2011-11-24 14:08:31+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: for the cohorts let me find an 
example
2011-11-24 14:22:17+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2011-11-24 14:38:13+0000 <antoviaque> re, sorry, got interrupted again (papers 
with marie halleux :) )
2011-11-24 14:38:51+0000 <antoviaque> so, for the cohort, it's pretty simple 
actually
2011-11-24 14:39:51+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: for weekly cohorts, it's about 
segmenting the population by week of registration to the game
2011-11-24 14:41:13+0000 <dachary> :-)
2011-11-24 14:41:42+0000 <dachary> could you show me an example of how you 
would like to see it
2011-11-24 14:43:14+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: ^
2011-11-24 14:43:58+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: yep I was drawing one for you :p
2011-11-24 14:44:02+0000 <antoviaque> http://paste.debian.net/146895/
2011-11-24 14:44:32+0000 <antoviaque> actually it's missing the active players 
for the week of arrival, but you get the principle : )
2011-11-24 14:44:48+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: an active player is a player who 
played at least once within the last month, right ? 
2011-11-24 14:45:12+0000 <antoviaque> in that case someone who played once that 
week
2011-11-24 14:45:37+0000 <antoviaque> but for monthly cohorts it's active 
during the month yep
2011-11-24 14:46:02+0000 <antoviaque> (otherwise the numbers only grow for one 
month and then suddenly drop without reason)
2011-11-24 14:47:13+0000 <antoviaque> (cf 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/591 )
2011-11-24 14:49:20+0000 <antoviaque> actually in his ticket blanchard defined 
it reversely - I'm going to edit to reflect what I was telling you (blanchard 
let me know if that's fine)
2011-11-24 14:49:59+0000 <dachary> ok
2011-11-24 14:51:21+0000 <antoviaque> done
2011-11-24 15:42:12+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: http://dachary.org/?p=1041
2011-11-24 15:42:35+0000 <dachary> I've updated with the output of the 
http://dachary.org/wp-uploads/2011/11/cohorts.txt script toward the end.
2011-11-24 15:45:53+0000 <dachary> blanchard: ^
2011-11-24 15:46:02+0000 <blanchard> dachary: cool ! should i read it as in for 
cohort 1, 81 played on week 1, 15 on week 2, 10 on week 3, etc ?
2011-11-24 15:46:28+0000 <dachary> yes, exactly
2011-11-24 15:46:47+0000 <blanchard> perfect
2011-11-24 15:55:23+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: cool, thanks : )
2011-11-24 15:57:58+0000 <dachary> is there an associated report in owa ? 
2011-11-24 16:29:33+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: for cohorts? no, I don't think 
OWA can do cohorts actually
2011-11-24 16:29:42+0000 <antoviaque> for the funnel yes
2011-11-24 16:29:59+0000 <antoviaque> 
http://cardstories.org/owa/index.php?owa_siteId=83b16dcc9a6a5cae7acbab4920aea46e&owa_period=last_seven_days&owa_startDate=20111117&owa_endDate=20111124&owa_do=base.reportGoalFunnel
2011-11-24 16:29:59+0000 <dachary> ok
2011-11-24 16:30:48+0000 <antoviaque> for the funnel it would be good to have 
it there - I think probably a good proportion of the numbers from yesterday 
could be collected in real time by OWA (nb of people who finish a game, etc.)
2011-11-24 16:31:39+0000 <antoviaque> the tricky part is probably to isolate 
the right population to only send the right page paths to OWA
2011-11-24 16:49:56+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: the paper I owed you is the 
declaration de non condamnation right?
2011-11-24 16:56:59+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: correct
2011-11-24 17:36:31+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: you'll just need just one for 
me or for tartarugafeliz too?
2011-11-24 17:37:19+0000 <antoviaque> by post or scan?
2011-11-24 17:37:44+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: just for you. I guess scan is 
fine
2011-11-24 17:37:49+0000 <antoviaque> ok
2011-11-24 17:37:51+0000 <antoviaque> doing it now
2011-11-24 17:38:18+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: anyway i'll bother you with 
other stuff like that once you're in thailand, don't worry :p
2011-11-24 17:38:33+0000 <antoviaque> rahh dman :p
2011-11-24 17:38:35+0000 <antoviaque> damn
2011-11-24 17:43:27+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: sent : )
2011-11-24 17:44:20+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: thx!
2011-11-24 19:24:55+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2011-11-24 21:12:55+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: tartarugafeliz I probably 
won't see you in the chat tomorrow, so i wish you already a great trip
2011-11-24 21:13:01+0000 <blanchard> and a hot winter :)
2011-11-24 21:13:10+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you!! :D
2011-11-24 21:13:27+0000 <antoviaque> thanks :p
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