Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-01-05.


2012-01-05 00:36:20+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
2012-01-05 03:15:41+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2012-01-05 07:05:01+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-01-05 08:04:53+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2012-01-05 08:22:19+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-01-05 10:42:23+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2012-01-05 10:54:44+0000 felipero (felipero) is now online
2012-01-05 10:55:22+0000 <felipero> oi pessoas
2012-01-05 11:01:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey felipe!
2012-01-05 11:02:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> (sorry but you'll have to speak in 
english felipero!) :D
2012-01-05 11:02:24+0000 <felipero> english is ok for me... I guess...
2012-01-05 11:02:24+0000 <felipero> :P
2012-01-05 11:02:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) because we work remotely there's 
people all around the globe online with us! :)
2012-01-05 11:03:05+0000 <felipero> that's cool
2012-01-05 11:03:18+0000 <felipero> very similar to the model I run in Brazil
2012-01-05 11:03:24+0000 <felipero> my company is:
2012-01-05 11:03:27+0000 <felipero> www.crafters.com.br
2012-01-05 11:03:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> *checking!*
2012-01-05 11:03:43+0000 <felipero> the website is not updated...
2012-01-05 11:03:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I like the logo! :)
2012-01-05 11:04:06+0000 <felipero> we changed our focus to development last 
year, but didn't changed the website yet
2012-01-05 11:04:23+0000 <felipero> the logo is from a spanish girl that lives 
in Ireland
2012-01-05 11:04:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> kewl! :D
2012-01-05 11:05:25+0000 <antoviaque> hello felipero : )
2012-01-05 11:05:32+0000 <antoviaque> nice to meet you :p
2012-01-05 11:06:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> you can check our page on 
www.farsides.com  and the game, called Card Stories is here: www.cardstories.org
2012-01-05 11:06:12+0000 <antoviaque> cool website : )
2012-01-05 11:06:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I don't know if you already did that 
:D
2012-01-05 11:06:44+0000 <felipero> nice to meet you antoviaque
2012-01-05 11:07:01+0000 <antoviaque> and cool that you work like this too! 
always nice to meet likeminded people :D
2012-01-05 11:07:23+0000 <felipero> yep
2012-01-05 11:07:25+0000 <antoviaque> hopefully soon the rest of the worl will 
join, it will make things easier ;p
2012-01-05 11:07:29+0000 <antoviaque> *world
2012-01-05 11:07:30+0000 <felipero> the difference is we don't use irc
2012-01-05 11:07:34+0000 <felipero> we use campfire
2012-01-05 11:07:53+0000 <felipero> but we are in 10 people at Crafters
2012-01-05 11:08:01+0000 <antoviaque> yep, it's a good alternative from what 
I've seen
2012-01-05 11:08:03+0000 <felipero> 7 developers and 1 designer
2012-01-05 11:08:17+0000 <felipero> all of them are in different cities in 
Brazil
2012-01-05 11:08:37+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, pretty cool : )
2012-01-05 11:08:41+0000 <felipero> but all of them are Brazilians, so far
2012-01-05 11:08:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> very cool yeap
2012-01-05 11:09:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and what do you guys develop?
2012-01-05 11:09:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its software?
2012-01-05 11:10:07+0000 <antoviaque> for farsides we have people in brazil, 
france, germany, slovenia (and thailand atm :p)
2012-01-05 11:10:50+0000 <antoviaque> makes it a little bit more tricky for the 
timezones, but still works very well : )
2012-01-05 11:11:19+0000 <felipero> cool...
2012-01-05 11:11:28+0000 <felipero> tartarugafeliz, we develop software
2012-01-05 11:11:43+0000 <felipero> we are basically developing products for 
startups
2012-01-05 11:11:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> and you want to start investing in 
games, is that it?
2012-01-05 11:12:24+0000 <felipero> I started a personal project to create a 
good river raid to ipad
2012-01-05 11:12:32+0000 <felipero> but that's just to learn and have fun
2012-01-05 11:12:50+0000 <felipero> now, I want to create real games
2012-01-05 11:12:59+0000 <felipero> maybe social games too
2012-01-05 11:13:38+0000 <felipero> so when you said you were part of a game 
studio, I though we could work togheter on that
2012-01-05 11:14:07+0000 <felipero> what platform you are focused?
2012-01-05 11:14:14+0000 <felipero> if any
2012-01-05 11:14:20+0000 <antoviaque> games are a nice domain : )
2012-01-05 11:14:32+0000 <antoviaque> we do web games
2012-01-05 11:14:46+0000 <antoviaque> you can see our current one, cardstories: 
http://cardstories.org
2012-01-05 11:15:14+0000 <antoviaque> what do you have in mind? developping 
your own games or contracting?
2012-01-05 11:16:55+0000 <felipero> we are a small company
2012-01-05 11:17:07+0000 <felipero> so it is easier to invest developers time 
than money
2012-01-05 11:17:27+0000 <felipero> also, I'd like to have a different domain 
to offer to our team
2012-01-05 11:17:49+0000 <felipero> so, I think I'd like to create a join 
venture for some game
2012-01-05 11:18:15+0000 <felipero> no need to be a new company, but just unite 
forces to develop something cool
2012-01-05 11:18:27+0000 <antoviaque> interesting yep
2012-01-05 11:18:46+0000 <felipero> but that's just a first idea
2012-01-05 11:18:53+0000 <felipero> we can think about alternatives too
2012-01-05 11:19:19+0000 <antoviaque> on our side we are based on private 
funding, currently focused on a single game - but could be interesting to 
discuss joining forces
2012-01-05 11:19:45+0000 <antoviaque> would you like to work with us on card 
stories?
2012-01-05 11:20:11+0000 <felipero> could be a start
2012-01-05 11:20:45+0000 <antoviaque> yup - we want to do other games later on 
too. But one is already a pretty big job : )
2012-01-05 11:21:09+0000 <felipero> so I guess I need to know more about the 
project
2012-01-05 11:21:10+0000 <felipero> :)
2012-01-05 11:21:23+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2012-01-05 11:21:41+0000 <antoviaque> it's a card game, based on the 
imagination of the players
2012-01-05 11:22:03+0000 <antoviaque> one picks a card and writes a story, the 
other players see the story but not the card
2012-01-05 11:22:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its easier if you come and play yeap! 
:D
2012-01-05 11:22:30+0000 <antoviaque> ah yep : )
2012-01-05 11:22:35+0000 * antoviaque joining
2012-01-05 11:22:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2012-01-05 11:23:33+0000 <antoviaque> btw since we have a free 
software/transparent approach, you can read some details here: 
http://wiki.farsides.com
2012-01-05 11:38:54+0000 <felipero> interesting
2012-01-05 11:39:19+0000 <antoviaque> : )
2012-01-05 11:39:37+0000 <antoviaque> it's basically for a target of women 
25-35 & kids
2012-01-05 11:39:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-01-05 11:40:40+0000 <antoviaque> works pretty well actually already - 
we're still early in development, but got a core group of dedicated players
2012-01-05 11:41:26+0000 <antoviaque> we focused on getting the single game 
experience, now we're getting to work on retention features (progression, 
levels, etc.)
2012-01-05 11:41:33+0000 <antoviaque> which should prepare monetization too
2012-01-05 11:43:23+0000 <felipero> cool
2012-01-05 11:43:33+0000 <felipero> and what kind of help you need on that?
2012-01-05 11:45:40+0000 <antoviaque> good question - I'd need to think a bit 
about it, and discuss it with the others
2012-01-05 11:45:51+0000 <antoviaque> but it could be development time
2012-01-05 11:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> or marketing opportunities, although it's 
probably not what you can provide
2012-01-05 11:47:15+0000 <antoviaque> what would you be interested in doing?
2012-01-05 11:50:12+0000 <felipero> it depends a lot on the model
2012-01-05 11:50:33+0000 <felipero> I mean..
2012-01-05 11:50:49+0000 <felipero> if I invest development time, I need to 
know what I can get in return
2012-01-05 11:51:10+0000 <felipero> since I don't think this is a game we can 
state it is a crafters one
2012-01-05 11:51:41+0000 <antoviaque> a crafters one?
2012-01-05 11:51:42+0000 <felipero> I mean, the game is yours and is advanced
2012-01-05 11:52:01+0000 <felipero> I don't think you are willing to share the 
business of it
2012-01-05 11:52:17+0000 <antoviaque> need to think about it, but maybe could 
give a coproduction with revenue sharing
2012-01-05 11:52:35+0000 <antoviaque> proportional to the amount of resources 
put
2012-01-05 11:52:50+0000 <felipero> cool
2012-01-05 11:53:07+0000 <felipero> that would be one option...
2012-01-05 11:53:09+0000 <antoviaque> I'm just thinking out loud - I'll need to 
review this, and I'm not the only one to decide : )
2012-01-05 11:53:33+0000 <antoviaque> but could be nice yep
2012-01-05 11:53:35+0000 <felipero> sure... don't worry...
2012-01-05 11:54:07+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2012-01-05 11:54:10+0000 <felipero> another option would be: we help on your 
project
2012-01-05 11:54:28+0000 <felipero> and you help on a new game project from 
Crafters
2012-01-05 11:54:37+0000 <antoviaque> could be nice too
2012-01-05 11:54:43+0000 <antoviaque> you have something in mind already?
2012-01-05 11:54:54+0000 <felipero> I have different game ideas
2012-01-05 11:55:13+0000 <felipero> since your focus are on web games, I think 
about a business driven game
2012-01-05 11:55:27+0000 <felipero> like strategic planning made fun
2012-01-05 11:55:37+0000 <antoviaque> hehe - scrum game? : )
2012-01-05 11:56:15+0000 <antoviaque> one thing to keep in mind though is that 
we won't be able to divert resources from CS in the months to come, to not lose 
focus - but on a longer term it could be interesting yep
2012-01-05 11:56:47+0000 MCMic (MCMic) is now online
2012-01-05 11:57:30+0000 <felipero> not scrum... I don'tlike scrum at all
2012-01-05 11:57:32+0000 <felipero> not anymore
2012-01-05 11:58:12+0000 <felipero> ok... so I have some big projects for the 
next 3 months
2012-01-05 11:58:39+0000 <felipero> maybe we could start drawing a new game 
together and schedule it for later
2012-01-05 11:59:04+0000 <felipero> maybe we could start the development at 
crafters, under your guidance (since you have experience on it)
2012-01-05 11:59:46+0000 <antoviaque> could be something to discuss yep
2012-01-05 11:59:52+0000 <felipero> cool..
2012-01-05 12:00:04+0000 <felipero> so I have some museums to go with my 
girlfriend today
2012-01-05 12:00:10+0000 <antoviaque> the best would be to write down something 
I could pass on to the others
2012-01-05 12:00:24+0000 <felipero> if somebody add me to gtalk, I'm almost 
always available
2012-01-05 12:00:55+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I think tartarugafeliz has your 
email : )
2012-01-05 12:01:02+0000 <felipero> my gtalk is [email protected]
2012-01-05 12:01:07+0000 <felipero> or [email protected]
2012-01-05 12:01:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap I have it! :)
2012-01-05 12:01:18+0000 <felipero> than we can work out the next steps
2012-01-05 12:01:35+0000 <antoviaque> if you can send your thoughts on 
[email protected], this way it will be in everyone's inbox : )
2012-01-05 12:02:20+0000 <felipero> ok
2012-01-05 12:02:31+0000 <felipero> I will... but after the museums. :P
2012-01-05 12:02:46+0000 <felipero> so, thanks for the good talk guys...
2012-01-05 12:04:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you for coming felipe! :)
2012-01-05 12:04:38+0000 <felipero> bye...
2012-01-05 12:07:09+0000 <antoviaque> thanks ! bye : )
2012-01-05 12:10:35+0000 <antoviaque> some more stats ready : ) 
http://stats.farsides.com/cardstories/static/
2012-01-05 12:11:00+0000 <antoviaque> the 3rd graph helps to visualize our goal 
for this month, which is to make it less red :p
2012-01-05 12:25:54+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-01-05 13:29:33+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2012-01-05 13:29:38+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey everyooone!
2012-01-05 13:30:23+0000 <mtyaka> hi :)
2012-01-05 13:30:46+0000 <antoviaque> hello mtyaka : )
2012-01-05 13:30:50+0000 <antoviaque> hello tartarugafeliz :p
2012-01-05 13:30:57+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start dailymeeting
2012-01-05 13:30:58+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2012-01-05 13:31:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: yesterday I finished #735 
{Create Mockup for Design of the Points} you can check the mockups here: 
http://tiny.cc/f38pc
2012-01-05 13:31:08+0000 <eve> Done: I finished #735 {Create Mockup for Design 
of the Points} you can check the mockups here: http://tiny.cc/f38pc
2012-01-05 13:31:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: today I'll play CS and work on 
my projects
2012-01-05 13:31:08+0000 <eve> Next: I'll play CS and work on my projects
2012-01-05 13:31:08+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blockers none
2012-01-05 13:31:09+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2012-01-05 13:31:13+0000 <tartarugafeliz> \o/!!!!
2012-01-05 13:31:32+0000 <antoviaque> cool - xpppppp
2012-01-05 13:31:34+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2012-01-05 13:31:42+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-01-05 13:31:45+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeeeeeeey
2012-01-05 13:31:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello arbrandes!! :D
2012-01-05 13:31:50+0000 * antoviaque want xp
2012-01-05 13:31:55+0000 <antoviaque> hello arbrandes !
2012-01-05 13:31:58+0000 <arbrandes> mooooooornin! :)
2012-01-05 13:32:24+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: copying you the lines you 
missed
2012-01-05 13:32:26+0000 <arbrandes> How's it going in Chiang Mai?
2012-01-05 13:32:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> duuuuude!!! :D
2012-01-05 13:32:31+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks
2012-01-05 13:32:51+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: very cool : )
2012-01-05 13:32:58+0000 <mtyaka> hi arbrandes!
2012-01-05 13:33:00+0000 * arbrandes looking at the pngs
2012-01-05 13:33:01+0000 <antoviaque> it's pretty hot actually
2012-01-05 13:33:09+0000 <arbrandes> hey mtyaka! :)
2012-01-05 13:33:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap and full of mosquitos
2012-01-05 13:33:15+0000 <antoviaque> I almost miss paris' summer...
2012-01-05 13:33:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hello mtyaka!! :D
2012-01-05 13:33:20+0000 <antoviaque> (no, just kidding :p)
2012-01-05 13:33:42+0000 <mtyaka> hi tartarugafeliz :)
2012-01-05 13:34:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-01-05 13:34:28+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Worked on #741 "Create 
statistics about weekly visitors" - cf 
http://stats.farsides.com/cardstories/static/ for the 3 new graphs (the 3rd 
graph helps to visualize our goal for this month, which is to make it less red 
:p)
2012-01-05 13:34:28+0000 <eve> Done: Worked on #741 "Create statistics about 
weekly visitors" - cf http://stats.farsides.com/cardstories/static/ for the 3 
new graphs (the 3rd graph helps to visualize our goal for this month, which is 
to make it less red :p)
2012-01-05 13:34:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Work on #731 "Generate good 
funnel of conversion" and putting in place the automated processing of logs (to 
keep the stats up to date)
2012-01-05 13:34:29+0000 <eve> Next: Work on #731 "Generate good funnel of 
conversion" and putting in place the automated processing of logs (to keep the 
stats up to date)
2012-01-05 13:34:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers None
2012-01-05 13:34:29+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2012-01-05 13:34:45+0000 <mtyaka> the mockups look very cool
2012-01-05 13:34:55+0000 <antoviaque> yup, gratz tartarugafeliz 
2012-01-05 13:35:05+0000 <antoviaque> will be cool when it's animated : )
2012-01-05 13:35:19+0000 <mtyaka> the stats look cool too, gratz antoviaque :)
2012-01-05 13:35:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D yeap and with sounds, explosions 
and the little star is going to dance of happiness!
2012-01-05 13:35:38+0000 <mtyaka> hehe :D
2012-01-05 13:35:45+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, thanks : )
2012-01-05 13:36:22+0000 <mtyaka> hey, the graphs are interactive; didn't 
notice this yesterday
2012-01-05 13:36:30+0000 <antoviaque> tartarugafeliz: everyone will want levels 
: )
2012-01-05 13:36:48+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yes, I'm playing with the interactive 
graphics too hahaahah
2012-01-05 13:36:54+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep - a little. I added some 
stuff to yesterday's graph too : )
2012-01-05 13:37:13+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2012-01-05 13:39:38+0000 <mtyaka> will really enjoy watching the "enough 
players?" graph get less red
2012-01-05 13:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, hopefully yep : )
2012-01-05 13:40:03+0000 <antoviaque> it's a tricky problem to solve though, 
the chicken and egg
2012-01-05 13:40:38+0000 <antoviaque> so who's next? : )
2012-01-05 13:41:02+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Due to sudden change of plans, 
had no time to work on CS :(
2012-01-05 13:41:02+0000 <eve> Done: Due to sudden change of plans, had no time 
to work on CS :(
2012-01-05 13:41:03+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today I hope to be able to work on #732 
(UserWarnings should return error codes and optional further data)
2012-01-05 13:41:03+0000 <eve> Next: I hope to be able to work on #732 
(UserWarnings should return error codes and optional further data)
2012-01-05 13:41:04+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None.
2012-01-05 13:41:05+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2012-01-05 13:41:43+0000 <antoviaque> : ) good luck with those!
2012-01-05 13:42:03+0000 <arbrandes> I can't open levelup2 and levelup4 - is it 
just me?  Anyway, these look great!
2012-01-05 13:42:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hmmm I don't know… let me check
2012-01-05 13:43:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I can see it.. antoviaque is updating 
something there, probably there's a problem with that?
2012-01-05 13:44:19+0000 <antoviaque> uh, I get remote: Counting objects: 40, 
done.
2012-01-05 13:44:20+0000 <antoviaque> remote: aborting due to possible 
repository corruption on the remote side.
2012-01-05 13:44:20+0000 <antoviaque> fatal: protocol error: bad pack header
2012-01-05 13:44:49+0000 <arbrandes> Hmmm, could be... In any case, the ones I 
can see are awesome!  This is going to be great! :)
2012-01-05 13:45:59+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: in case you didn't notice, we got 
some spam today: http://farsides.com/members/char7etjco/activity/1993
2012-01-05 13:46:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :D
2012-01-05 13:46:55+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thx, will clean that up
2012-01-05 13:47:08+0000 <antoviaque> I'll also try to see what's wrong with 
this repo, can't check it out
2012-01-05 13:47:14+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, tartarugafeliz, we're going to 
need level specifications on #645 - good thing you did the design first, 
tartarugafeliz :)
2012-01-05 13:47:15+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its going to give some more action to 
the game arbrandes! :D
2012-01-05 13:47:28+0000 <arbrandes> as in, how many points per level
2012-01-05 13:47:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz> : ) yeap, this way is easier to 
organize right?
2012-01-05 13:47:43+0000 <arbrandes> tartarugafeliz, precisely! :)
2012-01-05 13:48:13+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: it's in 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/648 : )
2012-01-05 13:48:29+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhh, ok, sorry, didn't check the related 
issue
2012-01-05 13:48:47+0000 <antoviaque> np - you're right that it probably belong 
more to earning points
2012-01-05 13:49:40+0000 <arbrandes> in any case, I think I'm going to tackle 
the data model at the same time for both
2012-01-05 13:49:54+0000 <antoviaque> sounds good yup
2012-01-05 13:50:35+0000 <antoviaque> btw, if you look at levels, there is one 
precision I didn't add to the ticket yet
2012-01-05 13:50:56+0000 <arbrandes> also, I'm not posting and official eve 
update, sorry - not much to tell since yesterday
2012-01-05 13:51:19+0000 <antoviaque> (going to edit right after)
2012-01-05 13:51:22+0000 <arbrandes> ok
2012-01-05 13:51:23+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: oki
2012-01-05 13:51:38+0000 <antoviaque> all good for today?
2012-01-05 13:51:54+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap
2012-01-05 13:51:58+0000 <arbrandes> yup!
2012-01-05 13:52:00+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard warned that he wouldn't be here 
today, so I think we're good
2012-01-05 13:52:04+0000 <antoviaque> thanks!
2012-01-05 13:52:08+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end dailymeeting
2012-01-05 13:52:09+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2012-01-05 13:52:09+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/530393
2012-01-05 13:52:15+0000 * antoviaque editing #648
2012-01-05 13:53:52+0000 <arbrandes> Gotta take a quick trip to the ATM, brb
2012-01-05 14:08:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: editing done - let me know 
what you think: 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/648#Handling-adjustments-in-the-XP-requirements-of-levels
2012-01-05 14:13:24+0000 <antoviaque> the part about earning a card every two 
levels in unlikely to happen, but I put it to illustrate what would be fair for 
other things we may tie to the levels in the future (things like allowing a 
player to create private games after X levels, etc.), in case you need to 
architecture things which will influence it
2012-01-05 14:13:51+0000 * antoviaque cleaning up the spam on farsides.com
2012-01-05 14:16:43+0000 <antoviaque> done
2012-01-05 14:17:07+0000 * arbrandes looking
2012-01-05 14:18:31+0000 <arbrandes> good points - the model needs to be 
structured so that the advantages are not directly tied to the level
2012-01-05 14:18:55+0000 <arbrandes> (or the xp)
2012-01-05 14:37:48+0000 <antoviaque> yup
2012-01-05 14:38:22+0000 <antoviaque> btw the repository issue seem to be a 
memory issue
2012-01-05 14:38:36+0000 <antoviaque> I've just freed some, and it seem to go 
better
2012-01-05 14:38:43+0000 <antoviaque> git fsck looks good
2012-01-05 14:39:21+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: hi! ok if I increase the RAM on 
the farsides instance from 1GB to 4GB?
2012-01-05 14:44:38+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yes, but the problem with z2-5 
at the moment is a very high iowait and increasing the RAM on farsides won't 
fix this
2012-01-05 14:45:27+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: still the issue from last time?
2012-01-05 14:45:45+0000 <antoviaque> I think it's both then - apache is eating 
most of the memory, and I was getting this
2012-01-05 14:45:47+0000 <antoviaque> farsides:~/repositories/share.git$ git 
fsck --full
2012-01-05 14:45:48+0000 <antoviaque> fatal: Out of memory, malloc failed 
(tried to allocate 91416507 bytes)
2012-01-05 14:45:49+0000 <dachary> I don't remember what this issue was
2012-01-05 14:46:34+0000 <antoviaque> I remember you talked about having large 
iowait a few weeks ago (was on the old machine)
2012-01-05 14:46:56+0000 <antoviaque> we weren't sure what was causing this
2012-01-05 14:47:05+0000 <dachary> yes and we figured it out but I don't 
remember 
2012-01-05 14:47:30+0000 <antoviaque> my memory is fuzzy too, don't remember 
the details
2012-01-05 14:48:46+0000 <dachary> i remember that one of the VM from z2-6 was 
eating a lot of IO and that it became obvious when it moved to another hardware
2012-01-05 14:49:01+0000 <dachary> don't remember which VM though and IIRC you 
fixed the issue but I don't remember what it was
2012-01-05 14:49:18+0000 <antoviaque> oki, probably different then
2012-01-05 14:49:19+0000 <dachary> now *all* farsides VM are on z2-5 because 
they migrated from z2-6 
2012-01-05 14:49:31+0000 <antoviaque> oki
2012-01-05 14:49:32+0000 <dachary> so instead of having VM on two different 
machines
2012-01-05 14:49:41+0000 <dachary> you now have all the VM on a single machine
2012-01-05 14:49:56+0000 <antoviaque> checking my command before making a 
mistake : ) z2-8:~# gnt-instance modify -B memory=4G hackit.politis.vm.gnt - 
right?
2012-01-05 14:50:03+0000 <dachary> if two are eating IO then the disk trashes 
immediately (non SSD have that effect)
2012-01-05 14:50:04+0000 <antoviaque> understood
2012-01-05 14:50:12+0000 <dachary> I would try 2G first
2012-01-05 14:50:15+0000 <antoviaque> ok
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