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2012-02-06 07:27:13+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-02-06 08:24:28+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
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2012-02-06 13:30:04+0000 <blanchard2> hello :)
2012-02-06 13:30:44+0000 <antoviaque> hello blanchard :D
2012-02-06 13:30:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: start dailymeeting
2012-02-06 13:30:50+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve_: 
yesterday|today|blockers <your report>"
2012-02-06 13:30:50+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> hi everyone!! :D
2012-02-06 13:30:55+0000 <antoviaque> hey tartarugafeliz1 !
2012-02-06 13:31:01+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: yesterday I worked on my 
projects
2012-02-06 13:31:01+0000 <eve> Done: I worked on my projects
2012-02-06 13:31:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: today I'll work on my projects 
and #792 {Animation to show how players level up} - this one is going to take 
me a lot of time.
2012-02-06 13:31:02+0000 <eve> Next: I'll work on my projects and #792 
{Animation to show how players level up} - this one is going to take me a lot 
of time
2012-02-06 13:31:02+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> eve: blockers none
2012-02-06 13:31:02+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2012-02-06 13:31:11+0000 <blanchard2> eve: yesterday I'm at school today eve: 
today tomorrow, discuss trademark U.S. with lawyer, send some papers to 
accountant, discuss next invoices with mtyaka eve: blockers none
2012-02-06 13:31:11+0000 <eve> Done: I'm at school today eve: today tomorrow, 
discuss trademark U.S. with lawyer, send some papers to accountant, discuss 
next invoices with mtyaka eve: blockers none
2012-02-06 13:31:13+0000 <arbrandes> hey dudes!
2012-02-06 13:31:18+0000 <blanchard2> damn
2012-02-06 13:31:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> hey duuuuude
2012-02-06 13:31:24+0000 <arbrandes> lol blanchard2
2012-02-06 13:31:35+0000 <mtyaka> hi everyone!
2012-02-06 13:31:39+0000 <blanchard2> eve: yesterday I'm at school today
2012-02-06 13:31:39+0000 <eve> Done: I'm at school today
2012-02-06 13:31:41+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> hello matjaz!
2012-02-06 13:31:51+0000 <blanchard2> eve: today tomorrow, discuss trademark 
U.S. with lawyer, send some papers to accountant, discuss next invoices with 
mtyaka
2012-02-06 13:31:51+0000 <eve> Next: tomorrow, discuss trademark U.S. with 
lawyer, send some papers to accountant, discuss next invoices with mtyaka
2012-02-06 13:31:59+0000 <blanchard2> eve: blockers none
2012-02-06 13:31:59+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2012-02-06 13:32:03+0000 <arbrandes> hey tartarugafeliz1 :))
2012-02-06 13:32:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> :D
2012-02-06 13:32:15+0000 <blanchard2> I'm having this meeting in the middle of 
a classroom :D
2012-02-06 13:32:20+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> kewl!
2012-02-06 13:32:46+0000 <antoviaque> hey arbrandes hey mtyaka : )
2012-02-06 13:33:05+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ahahah - you mean, you're 
giving a lesson at the same time? :p
2012-02-06 13:33:06+0000 <blanchard2> hi arbrandes mtyaka antoviaque 
tartarugafeliz1  :)
2012-02-06 13:33:22+0000 <antoviaque> eve: yesterday Worked on #784 "The next 
game after clicking on "continue" should be open in the current tab", #790 "The 
next game after clicking on "continue" should be open in the current tab" (see 
blocker)
2012-02-06 13:33:22+0000 <eve> Done: Worked on #784 "The next game after 
clicking on "continue" should be open in the current tab", #790 "The next game 
after clicking on "continue" should be open in the current tab" (see blocker)
2012-02-06 13:33:22+0000 <antoviaque> eve: today Review 2.2 and push to test 
server, discuss bananas with arbrandes, work on YC application for Card Stories
2012-02-06 13:33:23+0000 <eve> Next: Review 2.2 and push to test server, 
discuss bananas with arbrandes, work on YC application for Card Stories
2012-02-06 13:33:23+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blockers I'm struggling to find the 
right way to implement the features I'm working on with the new paradigm, would 
be very helpful for me to see a good example - is there is something from your 
tasks that I could read?
2012-02-06 13:33:23+0000 <eve> Blockers: I'm struggling to find the right way 
to implement the features I'm working on with the new paradigm, would be very 
helpful for me to see a good example - is there is something from your tasks 
that I could read
2012-02-06 13:33:29+0000 <blanchard2> antoviaque: yes more or less. I'm 
levelling up iin multi tasking ;)
2012-02-06 13:33:30+0000 <tartarugafeliz1> woow someone is working!
2012-02-06 13:33:44+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2012-02-06 13:33:48+0000 <blanchard2> antoviaque: impressive volume :)
2012-02-06 13:33:48+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: nice - that's a new 
ground-breaking place to hold a dailymeeting :p
2012-02-06 13:34:10+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: actually nope, I'm a bit 
frustrated by my progress right now : )
2012-02-06 13:34:18+0000 <arbrandes> eve: yesterday Some rethinking on #767.
2012-02-06 13:34:19+0000 <eve> Done: Some rethinking on #767
2012-02-06 13:34:19+0000 <arbrandes> eve: today Rework #767 so that data is 
stored in the WS database (issues with Django to be worked out in the future, 
when it becomes necessary).
2012-02-06 13:34:19+0000 <eve> Next: Rework #767 so that data is stored in the 
WS database (issues with Django to be worked out in the future, when it becomes 
necessary)
2012-02-06 13:34:19+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blockers none.
2012-02-06 13:34:19+0000 <eve> Blockers: none
2012-02-06 13:34:21+0000 <blanchard2> YC for CS antoviaque  ?
2012-02-06 13:34:24+0000 <antoviaque> I almost didn't do any progress
2012-02-06 13:34:32+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: yup, why not? :D
2012-02-06 13:34:40+0000 <blanchard2> antoviaque: sure :)
2012-02-06 13:34:46+0000 <blanchard2> I'll be glad to help*
2012-02-06 13:34:59+0000 <antoviaque> we need to be able to show some good 
numbers for conversion though, so actually presenting it will depend on that
2012-02-06 13:35:11+0000 <blanchard2> ahh yep
2012-02-06 13:35:30+0000 <blanchard2> mtyaka: we can discuss tomorrow about 
invoicing if you want
2012-02-06 13:35:37+0000 <antoviaque> cf http://ycombinator.com/rfs9.html - 
looks like the right time :)
2012-02-06 13:35:45+0000 <mtyaka> eve: yesterday Made a hackish demo 
implementation of switching tabs without reloading (#807).
2012-02-06 13:35:45+0000 <eve> Done: Made a hackish demo implementation of 
switching tabs without reloading (#807)
2012-02-06 13:35:47+0000 <mtyaka> eve: today Not sure - if we decide to go for 
#807 will work on that, otherwise find another task.
2012-02-06 13:35:47+0000 <eve> Next: Not sure - if we decide to go for #807 
will work on that, otherwise find another task
2012-02-06 13:35:48+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blockers None.
2012-02-06 13:35:48+0000 <eve> Blockers: None
2012-02-06 13:35:54+0000 <mtyaka> blanchard2: ok, cool :)
2012-02-06 13:36:25+0000 <blanchard2> now I need to get back to students - ping 
me if you need i'll be around, though not completely reactive :)
2012-02-06 13:37:15+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: all going well with the new 
paradigm? (cf my report, if you have anything that could help me, I take!)
2012-02-06 13:37:40+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: gratz for the hackish demo! 
*reading #807*
2012-02-06 13:38:56+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, well, I just digested the 
discussion we had on Friday, and it seems to me that storing mechanism-critical 
stuff in the WS database really does make more sense.  We can worry about how 
to manage the data itself when *that* specific problem rears its head.
2012-02-06 13:39:50+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, doing this also fits with my 
previous defense of writing the scoring algorithm inside game.py, so.... there 
we go.  I'm going to try and do that today.
2012-02-06 13:40:13+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ok! 
2012-02-06 13:40:31+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to get a grasp at this again in 
the meantime
2012-02-06 13:41:02+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks for the detailled report 
on #807
2012-02-06 13:41:03+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, regarding your blocker, which 
new feature are you struggling with, exactly?  Or is it all of them? :)
2012-02-06 13:41:57+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: well most of my open tasks 
right now involve plugins, so I'm trying to see how to rethink how to approach 
them by putting things more in the core
2012-02-06 13:42:36+0000 <antoviaque> so far I've not found the right way I 
think, which is why an example would help me wrap my head around it I think
2012-02-06 13:43:18+0000 <antoviaque> Or I may just end up doing it the most 
straightforward way, and just discuss in reviews - that may be easier actually
2012-02-06 13:44:22+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I admit I'm still not all that 
familiar with what you're doing right now - it seems most of the basic 
infrastructure is already in place with regards to tabs, no?
2012-02-06 13:45:50+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: the issues don't seem too big (#1 
is actually an issue in all the solutions we've got, #2 could simply mean that 
we switch to #game_355 instead of ?game_id=355 and #3 can probably be adressed 
imho)
2012-02-06 13:46:18+0000 <arbrandes> Whether it follows what we discussed on 
Friday or not is that big a deal, since you started it before, it seems.  And 
yes, I'm all for doing it the most straightforward way.  :)
2012-02-06 13:47:27+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: it is, but for example tables 
are in a plugin and tabs aren't - so to implement the glue between the two is a 
little tricky
2012-02-06 13:47:28+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: thanks for checking!
2012-02-06 13:48:08+0000 <mtyaka> I fully support straightforward ways :)
2012-02-06 13:48:08+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, oh, I see
2012-02-06 13:48:10+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: which solution you feel is better 
at the end btw? #807?
2012-02-06 13:49:03+0000 * arbrandes reading #807
2012-02-06 13:49:34+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I think switching tabs without 
reloading will be a better improvement
2012-02-06 13:49:44+0000 <antoviaque> +1
2012-02-06 13:50:46+0000 <mtyaka> although the two don't exclude each other - 
we could still add the appcache stuff later, but it won't be a very dramatic 
improvement
2012-02-06 13:51:08+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: agreed, that would most likely 
improve the experience upon loading ofthe game, where we lose people
2012-02-06 13:51:37+0000 <antoviaque> especially because mozilla doesn't seem 
in a hurry to fix the image preload issue (still no movement there last time I 
checked a few days ago)
2012-02-06 13:51:59+0000 <mtyaka> yeah, they just keep shuffling tags around, 
but nothing really happens :)
2012-02-06 13:52:05+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2012-02-06 13:52:50+0000 <arbrandes> I haven't actually looked at the code yet, 
but if it works as advertised #807 is really cool.  Congrats mtyaka 
2012-02-06 13:54:18+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: another topic for you - 
bananas :) we didn't really put them last week - ok if we look at this on 
Tuesday afternoon?
2012-02-06 13:55:19+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, deal!  And my bad, I should've 
done more in that department last week.
2012-02-06 13:56:10+0000 <antoviaque> ok cool! : ) thanks
2012-02-06 13:57:02+0000 <antoviaque> also did you determine the number of 
bananas that you can do? 3/week?
2012-02-06 13:57:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, it's going to be something in 
that vicinity, yes
2012-02-06 13:58:07+0000 <antoviaque> okidok, perfect
2012-02-06 13:58:21+0000 <antoviaque> another topic for today?
2012-02-06 13:59:03+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2012-02-06 13:59:24+0000 * antoviaque trying to change the ritual sentence of 
the end of the meeting
2012-02-06 13:59:24+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-06 13:59:39+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, hehehehe
2012-02-06 13:59:42+0000 <arbrandes> nothing for me, thanks
2012-02-06 13:59:54+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2012-02-06 13:59:55+0000 <antoviaque> thx!
2012-02-06 13:59:59+0000 <antoviaque> eve_: end dailymeeting
2012-02-06 14:00:01+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2012-02-06 14:00:01+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/546760
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2012-02-06 17:02:08+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: are you still using 
bigbluebutton ? 
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2012-02-06 17:52:48+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: sometimes yep, but less right 
now because it sucks on poor connections
2012-02-06 17:53:03+0000 <antoviaque> (and we've got a lot of those lately :p)
2012-02-06 18:01:01+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: would you want me to work on the 
"no reload" tabs next or should I work on something else?
2012-02-06 18:01:54+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: can we give it a try right now ? 
2012-02-06 18:02:23+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: yep, now that you got started, 
seem the right next step - how long do you think it will take you?
2012-02-06 18:02:44+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: we can, but right now I have a 
very very shitty one - if it works it's a miracle : )
2012-02-06 18:02:52+0000 <antoviaque> you want me to create a room?
2012-02-06 18:03:43+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: in banana terms, it should be 1 
banana, maybe 2 if there's something I didn't consider
2012-02-06 18:04:23+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: sounds good then - will give a 
huge boost of usability to the tabs
2012-02-06 18:04:35+0000 <antoviaque> thanks (and gratz!) for sorting this out 
btw!
2012-02-06 18:04:53+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: cool, it was your idea actually :)
2012-02-06 18:05:10+0000 <mtyaka> should we add a story or task to the current 
sprint?
2012-02-06 18:07:42+0000 <dachary> :-D
2012-02-06 18:07:57+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yes plize, I'm motivated
2012-02-06 18:08:46+0000 <antoviaque> ok, a sec
2012-02-06 18:09:41+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: 
http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/demo/create.jsp?action=invite&meetingID=antoviaque%27s+meeting
2012-02-06 18:10:08+0000 <antoviaque> (if you need to create a room in the 
future, it's at http://demo.bigbluebutton.org/demo/create.jsp )
2012-02-06 18:10:33+0000 <dachary> ok
2012-02-06 18:10:48+0000 <antoviaque> uh,don't have my microphone - if you want 
to hear me talk I'll have to steal deborah's computer :)
2012-02-06 18:11:45+0000 <dachary> it says "get flash adobe player" 
2012-02-06 18:11:47+0000 <dachary> ....
2012-02-06 18:11:52+0000 <dachary> *sigh*
2012-02-06 18:11:57+0000 * dachary sobs
2012-02-06 18:12:15+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ahhh yep
2012-02-06 18:12:38+0000 <antoviaque> but I've heard it works with gnash 
2012-02-06 18:12:45+0000 <antoviaque> never tested though :/
2012-02-06 18:15:29+0000 <dachary> really ? 
2012-02-06 18:23:38+0000 <antoviaque> not sure, but if you're motivate could be 
worth a try
2012-02-06 18:23:42+0000 <antoviaque> motivated
2012-02-06 18:24:40+0000 <antoviaque> could have been something someone told me 
to shut me up when I complained about flash one day :) Don't remember where I 
get that from...
2012-02-06 18:24:45+0000 <antoviaque> dachary: ^
2012-02-06 18:26:24+0000 <dachary> I'm not sure how to bypass the "download 
flash" step
2012-02-06 18:27:11+0000 <dachary> I should have said that I'm not motivated to 
the point of writing code. Motivated as an end user ;-)
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