Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-02-29.


2012-02-29 00:00:22+0000 <dachary> well, that's part of the cloud promisses
2012-02-29 00:01:18+0000 <dachary> what's most disturbing is that I can't 
remember the last time there was a *really* good excuse to rewrite most of the 
software in existence. 
2012-02-29 00:01:40+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2012-02-29 00:01:46+0000 <dachary> that's what's happening though
2012-02-29 00:01:51+0000 <antoviaque> yep
2012-02-29 00:02:33+0000 <dachary> a kid from the cloud writing cardstories 
would make it within the context of openshift.redhat.com
2012-02-29 00:03:37+0000 <dachary> the PaaS are constrained environment that 
force the developer to limit itself to doing things that scale out
2012-02-29 00:04:25+0000 <dachary> which is one of the reason why it's not so 
appealing at the moment. Because we're not used to this line of thinking.
2012-02-29 00:05:01+0000 <antoviaque> openshift = equivalent to appengine&co?
2012-02-29 00:05:24+0000 <dachary> I don't know about appengine but it's like 
heroku
2012-02-29 00:05:38+0000 <dachary> it's supposed to be free software 
eventually, contrary to all the others
2012-02-29 00:05:42+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I vaguely see
2012-02-29 00:05:45+0000 <antoviaque> eventually?
2012-02-29 00:06:30+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yeah... redhat making 
proprietary software. 
2012-02-29 00:06:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh, amazing
2012-02-29 00:07:37+0000 <dachary> the cloud is the best possible excuse to 
make proprietary software, unfortunately
2012-02-29 00:08:05+0000 <antoviaque> in any case thanks for the chat - got me 
even more curious about those
2012-02-29 00:08:11+0000 <antoviaque> yep :/
2012-02-29 00:08:42+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to investigate those a bit more 
: )
2012-02-29 00:16:28+0000 lincoln (lincoln) is now online
2012-02-29 00:22:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey lincoln!! :(
2012-02-29 00:22:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ups! :)
2012-02-29 00:22:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wrong face hahahahah
2012-02-29 00:22:26+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: hi
2012-02-29 00:22:29+0000 <dachary> :0)
2012-02-29 00:22:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hi dachary!!!!
2012-02-29 00:22:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> are you in USA already?
2012-02-29 00:22:45+0000 <dachary> nope
2012-02-29 00:22:52+0000 <dachary> april 16
2012-02-29 00:22:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :O
2012-02-29 00:23:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> get OUT OF HERE! SERIOUSLY?
2012-02-29 00:23:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on my bday!!! :D
2012-02-29 00:23:12+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2012-02-29 00:24:43+0000 <dachary> I'll be in sf though :-(
2012-02-29 00:26:57+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, hi! :)
2012-02-29 00:27:09+0000 <lincoln> hi everybody :)
2012-02-29 00:27:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> good to see you here! : )
2012-02-29 00:27:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> how's everything in Brazil?! :D
2012-02-29 00:27:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: we can send postcards to 
each other! :D
2012-02-29 00:27:57+0000 <dachary> ahahah
2012-02-29 00:28:05+0000 <lincoln> hehe, warm as hell! :)
2012-02-29 00:28:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's kewl!
2012-02-29 00:28:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> in 3 months if everything goes well, 
me and xav are going to Bahia lincoln! : )
2012-02-29 00:29:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I've never been there and i think I 
can use some sun
2012-02-29 00:29:12+0000 <dachary> :-)
2012-02-29 00:29:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-02-29 00:29:23+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, it's a beautiful place
2012-02-29 00:29:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> from the pictures I've seen it seems 
pretty amazing yeap
2012-02-29 00:29:39+0000 <lincoln> I went there in 2010
2012-02-29 00:29:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ohhh you were coding or just for 
holidays? :)
2012-02-29 00:30:16+0000 <lincoln> I was giving a course to a company
2012-02-29 00:30:23+0000 <lincoln> one week in salvador
2012-02-29 00:30:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> kewl! we're going to Trancoso!
2012-02-29 00:30:45+0000 <lincoln> and the weekend in the frontier of 
Pernambuco and Bahia
2012-02-29 00:31:01+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, hehe, that's amazing. 
Trancoso is awesome!
2012-02-29 00:31:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> is it cheap to live there?
2012-02-29 00:31:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I mean, to eat and everything like 
that?
2012-02-29 00:31:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> coolll
2012-02-29 00:31:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> everything seems so expensive in 
Brazil now...
2012-02-29 00:31:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its scary
2012-02-29 00:31:47+0000 <lincoln> not as in the rest of the state, because of 
the tourism stuff in the city
2012-02-29 00:31:57+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, yes, I'm feeling that! :)
2012-02-29 00:32:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think people are earning a lot of 
money but nobody is telling me!!!
2012-02-29 00:32:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha
2012-02-29 00:33:23+0000 <lincoln> hahahaha, hehe they forgot to talk to me too!
2012-02-29 01:19:01+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online
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2012-02-29 09:04:26+0000 mathibus (mathibus) is now online
2012-02-29 09:06:43+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: hello
2012-02-29 09:07:39+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: if u wanna talk about the GD 
docs today let me know, i'll be available 
2012-02-29 09:42:34+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
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2012-02-29 13:23:12+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online
2012-02-29 13:23:29+0000 <blanchard> hellooooo
2012-02-29 13:24:33+0000 <mathibus> yo !
2012-02-29 13:26:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-02-29 13:26:13+0000 <arbrandes__> uepa!
2012-02-29 13:26:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> haahahahaha
2012-02-29 13:26:26+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2012-02-29 13:27:00+0000 <blanchard> long time, sorry i disappeared :/
2012-02-29 13:28:11+0000 <arbrandes> hey blanchard!  are you in Canada 
yet/still?
2012-02-29 13:30:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think he was in Mrseille no?
2012-02-29 13:30:40+0000 <antoviaque> hello : )
2012-02-29 13:31:11+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting
2012-02-29 13:31:11+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve: 
(done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..."
2012-02-29 13:31:19+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhh, yeah, Marseille, sorry :P
2012-02-29 13:31:40+0000 <blanchard> I'm in marseille yep ! there's sun but i'm 
sick :/
2012-02-29 13:31:43+0000 <mtyaka> hello :)
2012-02-29 13:31:50+0000 <blanchard> (a bit sick, not much)
2012-02-29 13:31:59+0000 <mtyaka> welcome back, blanchard! sorry to hear you're 
sick :|
2012-02-29 13:32:07+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: when are you going to canada 
btw? : )
2012-02-29 13:32:11+0000 <blanchard> thanks mtyaka, hi :)
2012-02-29 13:32:33+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: btw you didn't warn the 
meeting before, grrr
2012-02-29 13:33:04+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: not sure yet for canada. And 
apologies for the meeting, i know, bad blanchard :/
2012-02-29 13:33:23+0000 <arbrandes> hehehhehe
2012-02-29 13:33:31+0000 <antoviaque> very baaaaad
2012-02-29 13:33:49+0000 <mtyaka> :)
2012-02-29 13:33:50+0000 <antoviaque> so who's first?
2012-02-29 13:34:11+0000 <blanchard> eve: had a look at mathibus docs (quick 
answer on tracker), a little bit of admin
2012-02-29 13:34:12+0000 <eve> blanchard: *blink*
2012-02-29 13:34:19+0000 <blanchard> eve: next consulting stuff
2012-02-29 13:34:19+0000 <eve> blanchard: Quite a plan.
2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done #837 (display score on 
completion).
2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job!
2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next Bananas for 2.6.
2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan.
2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by not getting the tables 
plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something stupid on my end. 
:P
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> arbrandes: We'll need to solve that later, I'm 
adding it to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report:
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>  - What arbrandes worked on:
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>      * #837 (display score on completion)
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>  - What arbrandes will be working on next:
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>      * Bananas for 2.6
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking arbrandes:
2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve>      * not getting the tables plugin to work, 
discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something stupid on my end. :P
2012-02-29 13:34:29+0000 <blanchard> eve: blocked by need to discuss 2 things : 
1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french 
studio
2012-02-29 13:34:29+0000 <eve> blanchard: We'll need to solve that later, I'm 
adding it to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <blanchard> eve: done had a look at mathibus docs 
(quick answer on tracker), a little bit of admin
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> blanchard: Good job!
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard's report:
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>  - What blanchard worked on:
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>      * had a look at mathibus docs (quick answer 
on tracker), a little bit of admin
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>  - What blanchard will be working on next:
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>      * consulting stuff
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking blanchard:
2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve>      * need to discuss 2 things : 1) my 
availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french studio
2012-02-29 13:35:24+0000 <blanchard> maybe we can discuss my two points after 
everyone's review
2012-02-29 13:35:41+0000 <mathibus> eve: done : community framework 2.0 document
2012-02-29 13:35:41+0000 <eve> mathibus: Good job!
2012-02-29 13:35:51+0000 <antoviaque> wow, wall of text : )
2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda?
2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda:
2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   1. not getting the tables plugin 
to work, discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something stupid on my end. :P 
2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   2. need to discuss 2 things : 1) 
my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french 
studio 
2012-02-29 13:36:38+0000 <arbrandes> lol
2012-02-29 13:37:04+0000 <antoviaque> eve: how do i use meeting
2012-02-29 13:37:04+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You 
can use it like this:
2012-02-29 13:37:07+0000 <mathibus> eve: next discuss the doc and see what can 
be done from it
2012-02-29 13:37:07+0000 <eve> mathibus: Quite a plan.
2012-02-29 13:37:27+0000 <blanchard> omg
2012-02-29 13:37:32+0000 <arbrandes> wat
2012-02-29 13:37:33+0000 <mathibus> lol
2012-02-29 13:37:34+0000 <antoviaque> uups, sorry mathibus, I spammed you :p
2012-02-29 13:37:39+0000 <mtyaka> haha, she's wordy
2012-02-29 13:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> eve: topic- 2
2012-02-29 13:38:02+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I removed "need to discuss 2 
things : 1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a 
french studio" from the agenda
2012-02-29 13:38:12+0000 <blanchard> eve is doing like antoviaque in his 
reports : lots of small things, filling the whole page
2012-02-29 13:38:20+0000 <blanchard> no eve don't remove that !
2012-02-29 13:38:23+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh
2012-02-29 13:38:42+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ availability in the next 
couple of months [blanchard]
2012-02-29 13:38:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "availability in the 
next couple of months" to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:39:05+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ possible dev for a french 
studio" from the agenda [blanchard]
2012-02-29 13:39:06+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "possible dev for a 
french studio" from the agenda" to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:39:20+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: you need to separate items by 
";" : )
2012-02-29 13:39:34+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: oki :)
2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I worked on my projects and 
started preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on 
the fb page if you want btw! :)
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job!
2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll work on my projects 
and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan.
2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by none
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report:
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>  - What tartarugafeliz worked on:
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>      * I worked on my projects and started 
preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb 
page if you want btw! :)
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>  - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next:
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>      * I'll work on my projects and continue 
working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking tartarugafeliz:
2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve>      * none
2012-02-29 13:40:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ discuss the doc and see what 
can be done from it [mathibus]
2012-02-29 13:40:07+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "discuss the doc and see 
what can be done from it" to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:40:54+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: fyi, if you put something in 
"eve: blocked by <xxx>", it automatically adds it to the agenda now : )
2012-02-29 13:41:08+0000 <mathibus> ok cool
2012-02-29 13:41:15+0000 <mtyaka> eve: done Started working on #838 (show 
player what author is doing in create state), but ended spending most of the 
time fixing my bugs from #829(create game before page is loaded) :-/
2012-02-29 13:41:15+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Good job!
2012-02-29 13:41:17+0000 <mtyaka> eve: next Continue working on #383.
2012-02-29 13:41:17+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Quite a plan.
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blocked by nothing.
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Glad to hear that
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> My notes of mtyaka's report:
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>  - What mtyaka worked on:
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>      * Started working on #838 (show player what 
author is doing in create state), but ended spending most of the time fixing my 
bugs from #829(create game before page is loaded) :-/
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>  - What mtyaka will be working on next:
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>      * Continue working on #383
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking mtyaka:
2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve>      * nothing
2012-02-29 13:41:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, is she smart enough to not add 
"nothing"?
2012-02-29 13:42:07+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks for the bugfix, will be 
that less to go after today : )
2012-02-29 13:42:11+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: how can you tell everything to 
eve (done, next, blocker) in ine time ? Currently i paste 3 different parts
2012-02-29 13:42:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: she should be yep
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda?
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda:
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   1. not getting the tables plugin 
to work, discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something stupid on my end. :P 
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   2. availability in the next couple 
of months 
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   3. possible dev for a french 
studio" from the agenda 
2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   4. discuss the doc and see what 
can be done from it 
2012-02-29 13:42:53+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2012-02-29 13:43:07+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: normally your client should 
automatically add newlines
2012-02-29 13:43:14+0000 <antoviaque> what are you using, pidgin?
2012-02-29 13:43:32+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: It could be that I messed 
something up with the tables while working on #829 - what problem are you 
seeing?
2012-02-29 13:43:53+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ Bananas
2012-02-29 13:43:53+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "Bananas" to the agenda
2012-02-29 13:44:02+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I don't think I was affected, your 
changes on #829 don't seem to be merged in yet
2012-02-29 13:44:07+0000 <blanchard> nope right now i'm directly with browser. 
Ok, so i'll look for a client. Pidgin is ok for windows too ?
2012-02-29 13:44:10+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 13:44:10+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "not 
getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something 
stupid on my end. :P" (from arbrandes)
2012-02-29 13:44:44+0000 <mtyaka> oh, ok
2012-02-29 13:44:48+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: that's probably the reason yep
2012-02-29 13:44:51+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, so, antoviaque, what do I have to do 
to enable the plugin?  I keep getting a javascript error on the complete page
2012-02-29 13:45:28+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: arbrandes: I'll spend time today 
on the tables plugins - if I can help sorting it out...
2012-02-29 13:45:52+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: what's the error?
2012-02-29 13:46:18+0000 <arbrandes> Hmm, I can't believe I'm this dumb - it's 
in the readme :P
2012-02-29 13:46:26+0000 <arbrandes> Lemme try it
2012-02-29 13:46:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha : )
2012-02-29 13:47:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, let's go back to it at the end
2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: skip topic
2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, we'll discuss not getting the 
tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque.  probably something stupid on 
my end. :p later
2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now 
"availability in the next couple of months" (from blanchard)
2012-02-29 13:47:41+0000 <blanchard> ok, one sec
2012-02-29 13:48:27+0000 <blanchard> I'm starting at the school on monday and 
for the first two months I'll be staying at their office.
2012-02-29 13:48:39+0000 <blanchard> I'll make sure I take care of 
admin/corporate needs for FS of course, but I'm not sure yet how I can make it 
for our meeting on a daily basis at 2:30, because I'll be in meetings again and 
again.
2012-02-29 13:49:16+0000 <blanchard> I suggest we discuss it again next week, 
but I wanted to raise the subject in case you have suggestions regarding what 
would be acceptable for you
2012-02-29 13:49:50+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: 2:30 Paris time on the east 
coast is 8:30am no, like for us right now?
2012-02-29 13:50:04+0000 * antoviaque checking timezones
2012-02-29 13:50:11+0000 <blanchard> 2:30 paris is our current time for meeting 
yep
2012-02-29 13:50:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep, same time
2012-02-29 13:50:29+0000 <blanchard> And i know that it's difficult to change 
radically given where everyone is
2012-02-29 13:50:41+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh, the Paris offices you mean!
2012-02-29 13:50:48+0000 <blanchard> yep !
2012-02-29 13:50:52+0000 <antoviaque> I thought you'd be in Montreal
2012-02-29 13:51:04+0000 <antoviaque> ah, more tricky yep
2012-02-29 13:51:05+0000 <blanchard> sorry about that. No Montreal office yet. 
I need to find them :)
2012-02-29 13:51:22+0000 <blanchard> I"ll move in may-june  i guess
2012-02-29 13:51:25+0000 <arbrandes> I'm open to different meeting times, if 
that would help
2012-02-29 13:51:25+0000 <antoviaque> what would work for you?
2012-02-29 13:52:01+0000 <antoviaque> yep, we could move it to another time - 
we thought about later during the day some time ago
2012-02-29 13:52:07+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: the best for me would be early 
in the morning, unacceptable for you :) 
2012-02-29 13:52:28+0000 <antoviaque> ah, waking up in the middle of the night 
for it is not ideal nope ;p
2012-02-29 13:52:39+0000 <antoviaque> for arbrandes too I guess
2012-02-29 13:52:40+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: I'm not sure yet what my days 
will look like, i just wanted to raise the topic. We can discuss when i have 
more visibility
2012-02-29 13:53:13+0000 <antoviaque> ok - you try to see what time would work 
and raise the issue again?
2012-02-29 13:53:16+0000 <blanchard> though I'd love to have you wake up for me 
at 3AM everyday for me antoviaque 
2012-02-29 13:53:22+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2012-02-29 13:53:30+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yep let's do that
2012-02-29 13:53:41+0000 <antoviaque> I'll just program eve to pretend she's me 
then
2012-02-29 13:53:46+0000 <antoviaque> ok!
2012-02-29 13:53:46+0000 <blanchard> hehe
2012-02-29 13:53:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next
2012-02-29 13:53:50+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Sorry...
2012-02-29 13:53:53+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 13:53:54+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "possible 
dev for a french studio" from the agenda" (from blanchard)
2012-02-29 13:54:03+0000 <blanchard> hehe, one sec again
2012-02-29 13:54:24+0000 <blanchard> A french studio is publishing a card game 
(social & mobile) in html5 and could be interested to ask FS to be in charge of 
the development, starting soon. I don't have details yet.
2012-02-29 13:54:37+0000 <antoviaque> kewl : )
2012-02-29 13:54:47+0000 <arbrandes> very interesting, indeed!
2012-02-29 13:54:51+0000 <antoviaque> what kind of card game?
2012-02-29 13:54:53+0000 <blanchard> I wanted to discuss it with you, it's 
interesting but I see 2 issues :
2012-02-29 13:55:13+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: don't know yet, some kind of 
collecting cards game
2012-02-29 13:55:28+0000 <blanchard> a) I'm not sure it's the  best move for FS 
currently - given the size of the team it would probably break the focus on CS
2012-02-29 13:55:59+0000 <blanchard> but it's worth investigating i guess 
(duration of work, content, etc)
2012-02-29 13:56:05+0000 <blanchard> b) On a more personal side, it's really 
not a good timing for me - as i just signed for a job, I'm not sure about the 
time I could dedicate to the overhead of this project in the next weeks.
2012-02-29 13:56:18+0000 <blanchard> but there again, solutions can be found
2012-02-29 13:56:20+0000 <antoviaque> when would it start?
2012-02-29 13:56:48+0000 <blanchard> so, what are your thought on the overall 
idea of investigating this ?
2012-02-29 13:57:03+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: early i think. Like first 
weeks of march
2012-02-29 13:57:17+0000 <antoviaque> what kind of budget?
2012-02-29 13:57:35+0000 <antoviaque> that can heavily influence the decision 
this part : )
2012-02-29 13:57:45+0000 <mathibus> hehe
2012-02-29 13:57:51+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: dunno. But probably full time 
for two coders + some overhead
2012-02-29 13:58:06+0000 <blanchard> for the necessary time...
2012-02-29 13:58:42+0000 <blanchard> i will investigate. My objective now is to 
have your first feeling about the principle
2012-02-29 14:00:11+0000 <antoviaque> my point is - would we be able to earn a 
margin on this, or would we just be break even? if we earn a good margin, it's 
worth it, as it helps funnel the dev of card stories and at the same time puts 
food on tables - but if it's a bare break even, less sure
2012-02-29 14:00:29+0000 <arbrandes> As far as I'm concerned, it seems like a 
nice way to extend the time I can spend working with you guys, so I'm all for 
it.  ;)
2012-02-29 14:01:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> would they need design or 
illustrations? :)
2012-02-29 14:01:57+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yep. But if it almost stops 
the dev of CS for let's say 3 months, even if it brings a margin that will give 
us let's say one or two months additional dev after that (on top of the 
remaining current budget), is it worth it ?
2012-02-29 14:02:02+0000 <antoviaque> hehe - no worries, we'll have zillions of 
players so you're going to work here until you grow senile arbrandes :p
2012-02-29 14:02:08+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i think it's only prog :/
2012-02-29 14:02:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok! :)
2012-02-29 14:02:29+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm an atheist, but I'll pray 
to that, lol
2012-02-29 14:02:36+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-29 14:02:39+0000 <mtyaka> lol
2012-02-29 14:04:04+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: well, would be glad to hear 
what tartarugafeliz and mtyaka think, but adding 1-2 months of development plus 
a game to our portfolio seem good
2012-02-29 14:04:05+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: mtyaka arbrandes what do you 
think of my point above : margin that will allow for some more dev on CS, but 
at the cost of probably almost stopping CS for some time
2012-02-29 14:04:25+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: mathibus opinion welcome 
too :) ^
2012-02-29 14:04:43+0000 <antoviaque> ah yes mathibus - sorry I forgot you : )
2012-02-29 14:04:48+0000 <mtyaka> i'm all for it, it's just that I'm not sure 
how much time I'll have available in the following months with the new baby 
arriving
2012-02-29 14:04:58+0000 <antoviaque> ohhh, true
2012-02-29 14:05:07+0000 <mathibus> no pb ;)
2012-02-29 14:05:07+0000 <blanchard> ahhh yep mtyaka true :)
2012-02-29 14:05:09+0000 <antoviaque> that's tricky
2012-02-29 14:05:21+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, regarding stopping CS - it 
might be possible to somehow work on it simultaneously, but you're right in 
worrying about it.
2012-02-29 14:05:44+0000 <antoviaque> we could hire extra hands, too
2012-02-29 14:05:47+0000 <blanchard> arbrandes: that would be great yep. But 
better to consider the worst option ;)
2012-02-29 14:06:09+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, maybe we can work hard towards 
achieving an important milestone for CS before starting on this other project.
2012-02-29 14:06:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think depending on the amount of 
money it will bring its worth it! even if it stops CS for some time, afterwards 
it will give more time to work on it.
2012-02-29 14:06:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap agreed with arbrandes
2012-02-29 14:06:30+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: possible option. Though we 
know how difficult it is to find wonderful persons such as the current team :-p
2012-02-29 14:06:46+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, yes it's tricky and takes a lot 
of time/energy
2012-02-29 14:06:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you thank you!! :P
2012-02-29 14:06:58+0000 <blanchard> arbrandes: i like your idea of the 
milestone
2012-02-29 14:07:22+0000 <blanchard> It also gives me time to investigate 
(we're far from knowing if this will work, it's just a lead)
2012-02-29 14:07:33+0000 <antoviaque> but if mtyaka is less available, we may 
not have much of a choice anyway - depends on the money involved yep
2012-02-29 14:08:31+0000 <blanchard> ok thanks everyone, I have some good 
feedback from you :)
2012-02-29 14:08:52+0000 <blanchard> there is a last point it's my - possible 
lack- of availability
2012-02-29 14:10:03+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: try to negotiate a good margin 
- not sure how rich those guys are, but x2 on the salary cost would already be 
a very good deal for them imho
2012-02-29 14:10:03+0000 <blanchard> there again, I want to do it. I'm just 
raising a warning, and i'll let you know how it goes...
2012-02-29 14:10:19+0000 <antoviaque> yep, if you need help, shout!
2012-02-29 14:10:20+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: of course :)
2012-02-29 14:10:34+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2012-02-29 14:10:38+0000 <blanchard> ok thx a lot ! Will keep you posted
2012-02-29 14:10:40+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 14:10:40+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "discuss 
the doc and see what can be done from it" (from mathibus)
2012-02-29 14:10:58+0000 * antoviaque looking at the doc update
2012-02-29 14:11:39+0000 <antoviaque> ahh, it's the one from our last 
discussion right mathibus ?
2012-02-29 14:12:10+0000 * antoviaque looking at the tracker too
2012-02-29 14:12:13+0000 <mathibus> i did an update called community framework 
2.0 since then
2012-02-29 14:12:28+0000 <mathibus> available on the tracker
2012-02-29 14:12:43+0000 <mathibus> but it's about what we discussed last time 
2012-02-29 14:12:51+0000 <antoviaque> ah - 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/835 ?
2012-02-29 14:13:06+0000 <mathibus> yep
2012-02-29 14:13:56+0000 <mathibus> basicaly there are 3 points i'd like to 
discuss
2012-02-29 14:14:04+0000 <mathibus> CS on Facebook
2012-02-29 14:14:08+0000 <mathibus> the metagoal system
2012-02-29 14:14:34+0000 <mathibus> and the CS universe
2012-02-29 14:15:07+0000 <mathibus> we already talked about fb last week
2012-02-29 14:16:19+0000 * antoviaque just read the updated doc
2012-02-29 14:16:19+0000 <mathibus> but i wanted to explain more with the doc 
why  it can be interesting to put the game on it
2012-02-29 14:17:06+0000 <antoviaque> yup, still think it would be good to 
figure out a good way to use the like button for the ratings
2012-02-29 14:18:24+0000 * antoviaque reading the tutorial
2012-02-29 14:18:45+0000 <mathibus> i think we can use the like button at the 
end of the game, when the score windows appears
2012-02-29 14:23:07+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I think for the ideas in the GD doc 
it's time to decribe them as individual detailled stories - something that 
clearly specifies the behavior, like http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/646 for 
example
2012-02-29 14:24:22+0000 <antoviaque> we now agree on the general principles I 
think (anyone seeing something to contradict in the GD docs?), would be good to 
look at the details, other discussions are likely to arise from it
2012-02-29 14:24:48+0000 <antoviaque> btw you didn't wanted to put more story 
in the tutorial?
2012-02-29 14:25:51+0000 <mathibus> it was just a example. I don't think it 
would be a good idea to put more story if there is nothing in the gameplay 
related to it
2012-02-29 14:26:05+0000 <antoviaque> oki, understood
2012-02-29 14:26:26+0000 <mathibus> something must be decide before about what 
feature you want to keep 
2012-02-29 14:26:59+0000 <mathibus> and then create a narrative structure 
around it
2012-02-29 14:27:57+0000 <mathibus> i don't know, may be i'm going to far with 
these features ?
2012-02-29 14:28:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I like the ideas and the tutorial :)
2012-02-29 14:28:36+0000 <antoviaque> not at all - there are a lot of very good 
things
2012-02-29 14:29:18+0000 <antoviaque> for the decision, you mean you'd need to 
know which ones to focus on first?
2012-02-29 14:30:29+0000 <mathibus> yeah. I need to know which one you want to 
keep and develop
2012-02-29 14:31:38+0000 <mathibus> to get a whole view of the mecanics and the 
gameplay
2012-02-29 14:31:47+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online
2012-02-29 14:32:29+0000 <antoviaque> I'd say, given what I understand of it so 
far, the priority I'd see would be: 1) Social rating + facebook, 2) Tutorial 3) 
player goal 4) metagoal
2012-02-29 14:32:33+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online
2012-02-29 14:33:37+0000 <mathibus> ok, so you're interested about facebook 
then :) ! cool !
2012-02-29 14:33:47+0000 <antoviaque> but this could change depending on the 
details - I always havea hard time thinking from a too "high level" point of 
view, it's easier for me whwn it's specs like 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/646
2012-02-29 14:34:17+0000 <antoviaque> yes, there are definitely things we can 
do better, we under-use that part today
2012-02-29 14:35:30+0000 <mathibus> i know sometimes it'sa little bit abstract 
:/
2012-02-29 14:36:40+0000 <mathibus> all these idea have the same purpose : how 
can we get more players and how can we keep them
2012-02-29 14:37:54+0000 <mathibus> the thing  i can do it's to write a doc 
about the facebook integration
2012-02-29 14:37:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that's a good ground : )
2012-02-29 14:38:07+0000 <mathibus> waht would be the feature related to that
2012-02-29 14:38:19+0000 <mathibus> since the game is on fb
2012-02-29 14:38:31+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: yup, sounds like a good idea
2012-02-29 14:38:43+0000 <mathibus> about that : what is the amount of work to 
integrate CS on FB ?
2012-02-29 14:38:51+0000 <mathibus> for the dev
2012-02-29 14:39:01+0000 <antoviaque> keep in mind that we use facebook 
connect, which has some (but not a lot) of differences with being "on" facebook
2012-02-29 14:39:30+0000 <antoviaque> ah, no, being "on" facebook is almost 
impossible at this stage, for example because of the size of the board
2012-02-29 14:39:49+0000 <antoviaque> but we can still use most of the features 
though facebook connect
2012-02-29 14:39:49+0000 <mathibus> ok, that's make a big difference !
2012-02-29 14:39:56+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online
2012-02-29 14:40:02+0000 <mathibus> ok so we can do that then
2012-02-29 14:41:06+0000 <antoviaque> yep - given how little of that we use 
right now, there is a lot of room for improvement there : )
2012-02-29 14:41:51+0000 <mathibus> ok i'm go a do a first proposal kit around 
social rating + facebook
2012-02-29 14:42:05+0000 <antoviaque> Cool, thanks mathibus : )
2012-02-29 14:42:09+0000 <mathibus> with mockups
2012-02-29 14:42:12+0000 <antoviaque> yey!
2012-02-29 14:42:14+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-02-29 14:42:24+0000 <mathibus> manily
2012-02-29 14:42:28+0000 <mathibus> mainly
2012-02-29 14:42:31+0000 <antoviaque> :)
2012-02-29 14:42:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 14:42:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "Bananas" 
(from antoviaque)
2012-02-29 14:42:51+0000 <antoviaque> ah, that one I'll need to update the 
tracker actually
2012-02-29 14:42:56+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 14:42:56+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "not 
getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque.  Probably something 
stupid on my end. :P" (from arbrandes)
2012-02-29 14:43:03+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: got it to work?
2012-02-29 14:44:46+0000 <mathibus> i have to go guys
2012-02-29 14:45:33+0000 <mathibus> have a nice end of meetinf
2012-02-29 14:45:58+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, I think so - I'm now 
integrating it with my changes
2012-02-29 14:56:29+0000 <antoviaque> cool!
2012-02-29 14:56:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic
2012-02-29 14:56:33+0000 <eve> antoviaque: That's all folks!
2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting
2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/558608
2012-02-29 15:21:34+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, do you by any chance remember 
when/how "on_next_owner_change" happens?  I want to test the reset behavior in 
the client
2012-02-29 16:02:05+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: let me check
2012-02-29 16:02:14+0000 <antoviaque> (back from breakfast : ) )
2012-02-29 16:02:34+0000 <arbrandes> kewl, thanks :)
2012-02-29 16:06:01+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: this should happen when the 
next_owner disconnects before creating the next game
2012-02-29 16:06:30+0000 <antoviaque> in this case, the next player from the 
same table who is online becomes the new next_owner
2012-02-29 16:06:52+0000 <antoviaque> and the information on clients is updated 
so players know about this
2012-02-29 16:08:26+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: if you need other 
clarifications let me know
2012-02-29 16:15:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks, gonna try it out!  the 
JS tests work, but I want to see it in action
2012-02-29 16:15:07+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2012-02-29 16:15:16+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep : )
2012-02-29 16:15:32+0000 <antoviaque> Let me know when I can push the release 
to the test server
2012-02-29 16:24:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, almost there
2012-02-29 16:25:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2012-02-29 16:35:57+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online
2012-02-29 16:37:51+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, done!
2012-02-29 16:37:56+0000 <arbrandes> 
https://gitorious.org/~arbrandes/cardstories/arbrandes-cardstories/commit/9724f9fc5bbb174c5506ad7eca73cdda251f09e0
2012-02-29 16:38:09+0000 <antoviaque> cool - looking & pulling, thanks!
2012-02-29 16:38:39+0000 <arbrandes> No fancy animations and no levels yet, but 
the score's there ;)
2012-02-29 16:44:23+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2012-02-29 16:45:11+0000 <antoviaque> btw not sure where this is coming from, 
but python tests are failing on my instance - got the same thing?
2012-02-29 16:45:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, lemme try
2012-02-29 16:45:24+0000 <antoviaque> exceptions.AttributeError: 
CardstoriesGame instance has no attribute 'service'
2012-02-29 16:45:28+0000 <arbrandes> ah
2012-02-29 16:45:30+0000 <antoviaque> 
__main__.CardstoriesGameTest.test16_timeout
2012-02-29 16:45:59+0000 <arbrandes> I've seen that before, it may be my fault 
- checking
2012-02-29 16:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> thx!
2012-02-29 16:50:13+0000 <arbrandes> no errors on game.py here
2012-02-29 16:50:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque ^
2012-02-29 16:50:43+0000 <antoviaque> weird, I stashed my changes so it should 
be the same result
2012-02-29 16:50:49+0000 <antoviaque> did you merge with mtyaka?
2012-02-29 16:51:13+0000 <antoviaque> wait, let me push what I have, this way 
we'll have the same thing
2012-02-29 16:52:02+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, nope, I'm only merging with you
2012-02-29 16:53:42+0000 <arbrandes> (btw, I'm getting python-nltk dependency 
issues on the bot, maybe we should update the readme with the stuff)
2012-02-29 16:54:00+0000 <antoviaque> it should be in the readme? did I miss 
this?
2012-02-29 16:54:28+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhhh, there's a bot-specific readme
2012-02-29 16:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> my bad (again)
2012-02-29 16:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> heheh
2012-02-29 16:55:44+0000 <antoviaque> btw best to pull regularly from each 
other - I maintain the main repo, but the merge happen upon release, so this 
can create this kind of suprises
2012-02-29 16:56:27+0000 <antoviaque> I'm going to open a ticket, hopefully 
this is just a problem withthe test and won't hinder playing : )
2012-02-29 16:56:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I thought we had agreed to 
always pull from one master repo, only
2012-02-29 16:57:05+0000 <arbrandes> But I'm fine either way - as long as we 
communicate regularly, there shouldn't be many problems ;)
2012-02-29 16:57:15+0000 <antoviaque> you're probably right, I don't remember 
exactly what we said about this
2012-02-29 16:57:52+0000 <arbrandes> should I wait for your push, then?
2012-02-29 16:58:04+0000 <arbrandes> Or do I go ahead and pull mtyaka's master?
2012-02-29 16:58:15+0000 <antoviaque> you can pull my repo, it's up to date
2012-02-29 16:58:20+0000 <arbrandes> ok
2012-02-29 16:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> but yep, don't hesitate to pull regularly 
mtyaka & my repo through the week
2012-02-29 16:59:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I pull from yours every time 
I'm going to commit (the old stash+fetch+merge+apply)
2012-02-29 17:00:02+0000 <antoviaque> when I'm active I do this regularly too, 
but lately with hacker school I have been producing a lot less commits, so it's 
less efficient to just monitor mine I think
2012-02-29 17:00:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, okeydoke, I understand 
completely
2012-02-29 17:01:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, nothing wrong - if 
someone is to blame in that case it's me : )
2012-02-29 17:02:50+0000 <antoviaque> uh, now it passes - strange
2012-02-29 17:02:52+0000 <arbrandes> I don't think anybody's wrong - we gotta 
be able to adjust to different conditions as they come up, right? :)  It's why 
this is a good system / team, hehehhe
2012-02-29 17:03:01+0000 <antoviaque> agreed :D
2012-02-29 17:08:55+0000 <arbrandes> I'm getting a failure for test 17 on 
game.py, though - git blame suggests we should talk to mtyaka ;)
2012-02-29 17:09:26+0000 <arbrandes> Alternatively, it's a problem with my 
environment
2012-02-29 17:09:54+0000 <antoviaque> well, it's strange, the tests now pass on 
mine
2012-02-29 17:10:32+0000 <antoviaque> maybe something to do with my version of 
django (not sure, but I think we import some stuff from the django libs) - I 
had to switch back from the development version to 1.2.3
2012-02-29 17:10:48+0000 <arbrandes> I think I went back, too
2012-02-29 17:10:49+0000 <antoviaque> sounds weird though
2012-02-29 17:11:12+0000 <arbrandes> I'm going to investigate a bit further
2012-02-29 17:11:31+0000 <arbrandes> But first I gotta eat
2012-02-29 17:11:35+0000 <arbrandes> Are you going to deploy anyway?
2012-02-29 17:22:01+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, everything ok?  I gotta go out 
to eat, gonna be away for a couple of hours
2012-02-29 17:35:39+0000 <antoviaque> yep, atleast on the test server
2012-02-29 17:35:52+0000 * antoviaque investigating another issue with django 
auth
2012-02-29 17:36:00+0000 <antoviaque> *django auth test
2012-02-29 18:07:17+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'm seeing lots of bugs, I think 
there has been a problem with the merge of both your code bases, mtyaka / 
arbrandes
2012-02-29 18:08:02+0000 <antoviaque> I've entered a few above, but I'm 
stopping there as it's likely some deeper problems that cause this
2012-02-29 18:08:54+0000 <antoviaque> (or some problems with my install / 
environments)
2012-02-29 18:40:18+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I think I'll be able to look at 
the problems later tonight
2012-02-29 19:52:14+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks!
2012-02-29 20:00:39+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-02-29 21:52:35+0000 <mtyaka> test_game.py tests all pass for me
2012-02-29 21:59:21+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I think I know what the problem 
is... there was a new migration file with my largest commit inside the 
migrations folder, numbered 003
2012-02-29 21:59:57+0000 <mtyaka> It looks like it wasn't run on the test server
2012-02-29 22:00:08+0000 * antoviaque looking
2012-02-29 22:00:05+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: oh, I missed that? shame on me!
2012-02-29 22:00:38+0000 <mtyaka> well, I should have mentioned it more loudly, 
as it's quite important
2012-02-29 22:01:15+0000 <mtyaka> you should backup the db first before running 
it
2012-02-29 22:01:33+0000 <mtyaka> because it's quite.... agressive
2012-02-29 22:03:25+0000 <antoviaque> ok : )
2012-02-29 22:08:37+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ah, yep, looks much better : )
2012-02-29 22:09:35+0000 <antoviaque> I still have the issue of the "+" new tab 
that doesn't appear though
2012-02-29 22:10:04+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: yes, me too... that's because we 
were creating new games while the database hasn't been migrated yet
2012-02-29 22:10:23+0000 <mtyaka> the games are in 'invitation' state but don't 
have a card or a sentence, that's what's confusing the tabs plugin
2012-02-29 22:10:40+0000 <mtyaka> can you run an sql query?
2012-02-29 22:10:48+0000 <antoviaque> sure
2012-02-29 22:11:01+0000 <mtyaka> something like "UPDATE games SET state = 
'created' WHERE sentence = ''";
2012-02-29 22:11:22+0000 <mtyaka> no, no
2012-02-29 22:11:29+0000 <mtyaka> state = 'create', not 'created'
2012-02-29 22:11:30+0000 <mtyaka> sorry :)
2012-02-29 22:12:01+0000 <mtyaka> or maybe WHERE sentence IS NULL, I'm not sure 
:(
2012-02-29 22:12:06+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you can even run it directly 
yourself if you want - just be careful to update the test.cardstories.org* dbs, 
not cardstories.org : )
2012-02-29 22:12:18+0000 <antoviaque>  /var/www/db
2012-02-29 22:12:24+0000 <antoviaque> @cardstories.org
2012-02-29 22:12:58+0000 <mtyaka> ok, I'll do it
2012-02-29 22:13:06+0000 <antoviaque> just document it in a ticket, in case I 
(or someone else) need to redo this, for example when migrating the live server
2012-02-29 22:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> thanks!
2012-02-29 22:13:41+0000 <antoviaque> actually it could be good to add it at 
the end of the migration file
2012-02-29 22:14:06+0000 <mtyaka> yup, it won't do any harm, and it might help
2012-02-29 22:14:11+0000 <mtyaka> good idea, I'll add it
2012-02-29 22:51:15+0000 <dachary> 
http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/repository was moved elsewhere 
? 
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