Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-02-29.
2012-02-29 00:00:22+0000 <dachary> well, that's part of the cloud promisses 2012-02-29 00:01:18+0000 <dachary> what's most disturbing is that I can't remember the last time there was a *really* good excuse to rewrite most of the software in existence. 2012-02-29 00:01:40+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2012-02-29 00:01:46+0000 <dachary> that's what's happening though 2012-02-29 00:01:51+0000 <antoviaque> yep 2012-02-29 00:02:33+0000 <dachary> a kid from the cloud writing cardstories would make it within the context of openshift.redhat.com 2012-02-29 00:03:37+0000 <dachary> the PaaS are constrained environment that force the developer to limit itself to doing things that scale out 2012-02-29 00:04:25+0000 <dachary> which is one of the reason why it's not so appealing at the moment. Because we're not used to this line of thinking. 2012-02-29 00:05:01+0000 <antoviaque> openshift = equivalent to appengine&co? 2012-02-29 00:05:24+0000 <dachary> I don't know about appengine but it's like heroku 2012-02-29 00:05:38+0000 <dachary> it's supposed to be free software eventually, contrary to all the others 2012-02-29 00:05:42+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I vaguely see 2012-02-29 00:05:45+0000 <antoviaque> eventually? 2012-02-29 00:06:30+0000 <dachary> antoviaque: yeah... redhat making proprietary software. 2012-02-29 00:06:47+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh, amazing 2012-02-29 00:07:37+0000 <dachary> the cloud is the best possible excuse to make proprietary software, unfortunately 2012-02-29 00:08:05+0000 <antoviaque> in any case thanks for the chat - got me even more curious about those 2012-02-29 00:08:11+0000 <antoviaque> yep :/ 2012-02-29 00:08:42+0000 <antoviaque> I'll try to investigate those a bit more : ) 2012-02-29 00:16:28+0000 lincoln (lincoln) is now online 2012-02-29 00:22:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hey lincoln!! :( 2012-02-29 00:22:22+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ups! :) 2012-02-29 00:22:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> wrong face hahahahah 2012-02-29 00:22:26+0000 <dachary> tartarugafeliz: hi 2012-02-29 00:22:29+0000 <dachary> :0) 2012-02-29 00:22:34+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hi dachary!!!! 2012-02-29 00:22:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> are you in USA already? 2012-02-29 00:22:45+0000 <dachary> nope 2012-02-29 00:22:52+0000 <dachary> april 16 2012-02-29 00:22:57+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :O 2012-02-29 00:23:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> get OUT OF HERE! SERIOUSLY? 2012-02-29 00:23:07+0000 <tartarugafeliz> on my bday!!! :D 2012-02-29 00:23:12+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2012-02-29 00:24:43+0000 <dachary> I'll be in sf though :-( 2012-02-29 00:26:57+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, hi! :) 2012-02-29 00:27:09+0000 <lincoln> hi everybody :) 2012-02-29 00:27:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> good to see you here! : ) 2012-02-29 00:27:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> how's everything in Brazil?! :D 2012-02-29 00:27:43+0000 <tartarugafeliz> dachary: we can send postcards to each other! :D 2012-02-29 00:27:57+0000 <dachary> ahahah 2012-02-29 00:28:05+0000 <lincoln> hehe, warm as hell! :) 2012-02-29 00:28:17+0000 <tartarugafeliz> that's kewl! 2012-02-29 00:28:56+0000 <tartarugafeliz> in 3 months if everything goes well, me and xav are going to Bahia lincoln! : ) 2012-02-29 00:29:06+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I've never been there and i think I can use some sun 2012-02-29 00:29:12+0000 <dachary> :-) 2012-02-29 00:29:19+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-02-29 00:29:23+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, it's a beautiful place 2012-02-29 00:29:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> from the pictures I've seen it seems pretty amazing yeap 2012-02-29 00:29:39+0000 <lincoln> I went there in 2010 2012-02-29 00:29:53+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ohhh you were coding or just for holidays? :) 2012-02-29 00:30:16+0000 <lincoln> I was giving a course to a company 2012-02-29 00:30:23+0000 <lincoln> one week in salvador 2012-02-29 00:30:36+0000 <tartarugafeliz> kewl! we're going to Trancoso! 2012-02-29 00:30:45+0000 <lincoln> and the weekend in the frontier of Pernambuco and Bahia 2012-02-29 00:31:01+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, hehe, that's amazing. Trancoso is awesome! 2012-02-29 00:31:05+0000 <tartarugafeliz> is it cheap to live there? 2012-02-29 00:31:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I mean, to eat and everything like that? 2012-02-29 00:31:16+0000 <tartarugafeliz> coolll 2012-02-29 00:31:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> everything seems so expensive in Brazil now... 2012-02-29 00:31:40+0000 <tartarugafeliz> its scary 2012-02-29 00:31:47+0000 <lincoln> not as in the rest of the state, because of the tourism stuff in the city 2012-02-29 00:31:57+0000 <lincoln> tartarugafeliz, yes, I'm feeling that! :) 2012-02-29 00:32:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think people are earning a lot of money but nobody is telling me!!! 2012-02-29 00:32:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahaha 2012-02-29 00:33:23+0000 <lincoln> hahahaha, hehe they forgot to talk to me too! 2012-02-29 01:19:01+0000 antoviaque (antoviaque) is now online 2012-02-29 06:18:15+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-29 06:18:25+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now offline 2012-02-29 08:31:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-02-29 08:31:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-02-29 08:45:18+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-02-29 08:53:19+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-29 09:04:26+0000 mathibus (mathibus) is now online 2012-02-29 09:06:43+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: hello 2012-02-29 09:07:39+0000 <mathibus> antoviaque: if u wanna talk about the GD docs today let me know, i'll be available 2012-02-29 09:42:34+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-02-29 10:01:21+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 10:22:16+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2012-02-29 10:35:26+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 12:43:25+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 13:12:23+0000 arbrandes__ (arbrandes__) is now online 2012-02-29 13:22:58+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-02-29 13:23:12+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2012-02-29 13:23:29+0000 <blanchard> hellooooo 2012-02-29 13:24:33+0000 <mathibus> yo ! 2012-02-29 13:26:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-02-29 13:26:13+0000 <arbrandes__> uepa! 2012-02-29 13:26:23+0000 <tartarugafeliz> haahahahaha 2012-02-29 13:26:26+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2012-02-29 13:27:00+0000 <blanchard> long time, sorry i disappeared :/ 2012-02-29 13:28:11+0000 <arbrandes> hey blanchard! are you in Canada yet/still? 2012-02-29 13:30:33+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think he was in Mrseille no? 2012-02-29 13:30:40+0000 <antoviaque> hello : ) 2012-02-29 13:31:11+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting 2012-02-29 13:31:11+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve: (done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..." 2012-02-29 13:31:19+0000 <arbrandes> Ahhh, yeah, Marseille, sorry :P 2012-02-29 13:31:40+0000 <blanchard> I'm in marseille yep ! there's sun but i'm sick :/ 2012-02-29 13:31:43+0000 <mtyaka> hello :) 2012-02-29 13:31:50+0000 <blanchard> (a bit sick, not much) 2012-02-29 13:31:59+0000 <mtyaka> welcome back, blanchard! sorry to hear you're sick :| 2012-02-29 13:32:07+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: when are you going to canada btw? : ) 2012-02-29 13:32:11+0000 <blanchard> thanks mtyaka, hi :) 2012-02-29 13:32:33+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: btw you didn't warn the meeting before, grrr 2012-02-29 13:33:04+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: not sure yet for canada. And apologies for the meeting, i know, bad blanchard :/ 2012-02-29 13:33:23+0000 <arbrandes> hehehhehe 2012-02-29 13:33:31+0000 <antoviaque> very baaaaad 2012-02-29 13:33:49+0000 <mtyaka> :) 2012-02-29 13:33:50+0000 <antoviaque> so who's first? 2012-02-29 13:34:11+0000 <blanchard> eve: had a look at mathibus docs (quick answer on tracker), a little bit of admin 2012-02-29 13:34:12+0000 <eve> blanchard: *blink* 2012-02-29 13:34:19+0000 <blanchard> eve: next consulting stuff 2012-02-29 13:34:19+0000 <eve> blanchard: Quite a plan. 2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done #837 (display score on completion). 2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job! 2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next Bananas for 2.6. 2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan. 2012-02-29 13:34:27+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> arbrandes: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report: 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes worked on: 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> * #837 (display score on completion) 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes will be working on next: 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> * Bananas for 2.6 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> - What's blocking arbrandes: 2012-02-29 13:34:28+0000 <eve> * not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P 2012-02-29 13:34:29+0000 <blanchard> eve: blocked by need to discuss 2 things : 1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french studio 2012-02-29 13:34:29+0000 <eve> blanchard: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <blanchard> eve: done had a look at mathibus docs (quick answer on tracker), a little bit of admin 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> blanchard: Good job! 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard's report: 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> - What blanchard worked on: 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> * had a look at mathibus docs (quick answer on tracker), a little bit of admin 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> - What blanchard will be working on next: 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> * consulting stuff 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> - What's blocking blanchard: 2012-02-29 13:34:58+0000 <eve> * need to discuss 2 things : 1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french studio 2012-02-29 13:35:24+0000 <blanchard> maybe we can discuss my two points after everyone's review 2012-02-29 13:35:41+0000 <mathibus> eve: done : community framework 2.0 document 2012-02-29 13:35:41+0000 <eve> mathibus: Good job! 2012-02-29 13:35:51+0000 <antoviaque> wow, wall of text : ) 2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda? 2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda: 2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P 2012-02-29 13:36:36+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 2. need to discuss 2 things : 1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french studio 2012-02-29 13:36:38+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2012-02-29 13:37:04+0000 <antoviaque> eve: how do i use meeting 2012-02-29 13:37:04+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this: 2012-02-29 13:37:07+0000 <mathibus> eve: next discuss the doc and see what can be done from it 2012-02-29 13:37:07+0000 <eve> mathibus: Quite a plan. 2012-02-29 13:37:27+0000 <blanchard> omg 2012-02-29 13:37:32+0000 <arbrandes> wat 2012-02-29 13:37:33+0000 <mathibus> lol 2012-02-29 13:37:34+0000 <antoviaque> uups, sorry mathibus, I spammed you :p 2012-02-29 13:37:39+0000 <mtyaka> haha, she's wordy 2012-02-29 13:38:01+0000 <antoviaque> eve: topic- 2 2012-02-29 13:38:02+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I removed "need to discuss 2 things : 1) my availability in the next couple of months 2) possible dev for a french studio" from the agenda 2012-02-29 13:38:12+0000 <blanchard> eve is doing like antoviaque in his reports : lots of small things, filling the whole page 2012-02-29 13:38:20+0000 <blanchard> no eve don't remove that ! 2012-02-29 13:38:23+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh 2012-02-29 13:38:42+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ availability in the next couple of months [blanchard] 2012-02-29 13:38:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "availability in the next couple of months" to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:39:05+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ possible dev for a french studio" from the agenda [blanchard] 2012-02-29 13:39:06+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "possible dev for a french studio" from the agenda" to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:39:20+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: you need to separate items by ";" : ) 2012-02-29 13:39:34+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: oki :) 2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I worked on my projects and started preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb page if you want btw! :) 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job! 2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll work on my projects and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan. 2012-02-29 13:39:51+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by none 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report: 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz worked on: 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> * I worked on my projects and started preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb page if you want btw! :) 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next: 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> * I'll work on my projects and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> - What's blocking tartarugafeliz: 2012-02-29 13:39:52+0000 <eve> * none 2012-02-29 13:40:06+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ discuss the doc and see what can be done from it [mathibus] 2012-02-29 13:40:07+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "discuss the doc and see what can be done from it" to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:40:54+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: fyi, if you put something in "eve: blocked by <xxx>", it automatically adds it to the agenda now : ) 2012-02-29 13:41:08+0000 <mathibus> ok cool 2012-02-29 13:41:15+0000 <mtyaka> eve: done Started working on #838 (show player what author is doing in create state), but ended spending most of the time fixing my bugs from #829(create game before page is loaded) :-/ 2012-02-29 13:41:15+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Good job! 2012-02-29 13:41:17+0000 <mtyaka> eve: next Continue working on #383. 2012-02-29 13:41:17+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Quite a plan. 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blocked by nothing. 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Glad to hear that 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> My notes of mtyaka's report: 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka worked on: 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * Started working on #838 (show player what author is doing in create state), but ended spending most of the time fixing my bugs from #829(create game before page is loaded) :-/ 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka will be working on next: 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * Continue working on #383 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> - What's blocking mtyaka: 2012-02-29 13:41:18+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-02-29 13:41:58+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, is she smart enough to not add "nothing"? 2012-02-29 13:42:07+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks for the bugfix, will be that less to go after today : ) 2012-02-29 13:42:11+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: how can you tell everything to eve (done, next, blocker) in ine time ? Currently i paste 3 different parts 2012-02-29 13:42:40+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: she should be yep 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda? 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda: 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 2. availability in the next couple of months 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 3. possible dev for a french studio" from the agenda 2012-02-29 13:42:44+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 4. discuss the doc and see what can be done from it 2012-02-29 13:42:53+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2012-02-29 13:43:07+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: normally your client should automatically add newlines 2012-02-29 13:43:14+0000 <antoviaque> what are you using, pidgin? 2012-02-29 13:43:32+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: It could be that I messed something up with the tables while working on #829 - what problem are you seeing? 2012-02-29 13:43:53+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda+ Bananas 2012-02-29 13:43:53+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, I added "Bananas" to the agenda 2012-02-29 13:44:02+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, I don't think I was affected, your changes on #829 don't seem to be merged in yet 2012-02-29 13:44:07+0000 <blanchard> nope right now i'm directly with browser. Ok, so i'll look for a client. Pidgin is ok for windows too ? 2012-02-29 13:44:10+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 13:44:10+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P" (from arbrandes) 2012-02-29 13:44:44+0000 <mtyaka> oh, ok 2012-02-29 13:44:48+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: that's probably the reason yep 2012-02-29 13:44:51+0000 <arbrandes> Ok, so, antoviaque, what do I have to do to enable the plugin? I keep getting a javascript error on the complete page 2012-02-29 13:45:28+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: arbrandes: I'll spend time today on the tables plugins - if I can help sorting it out... 2012-02-29 13:45:52+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: what's the error? 2012-02-29 13:46:18+0000 <arbrandes> Hmm, I can't believe I'm this dumb - it's in the readme :P 2012-02-29 13:46:26+0000 <arbrandes> Lemme try it 2012-02-29 13:46:33+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha : ) 2012-02-29 13:47:23+0000 <antoviaque> ok, let's go back to it at the end 2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: skip topic 2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Ok, we'll discuss not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. probably something stupid on my end. :p later 2012-02-29 13:47:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "availability in the next couple of months" (from blanchard) 2012-02-29 13:47:41+0000 <blanchard> ok, one sec 2012-02-29 13:48:27+0000 <blanchard> I'm starting at the school on monday and for the first two months I'll be staying at their office. 2012-02-29 13:48:39+0000 <blanchard> I'll make sure I take care of admin/corporate needs for FS of course, but I'm not sure yet how I can make it for our meeting on a daily basis at 2:30, because I'll be in meetings again and again. 2012-02-29 13:49:16+0000 <blanchard> I suggest we discuss it again next week, but I wanted to raise the subject in case you have suggestions regarding what would be acceptable for you 2012-02-29 13:49:50+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: 2:30 Paris time on the east coast is 8:30am no, like for us right now? 2012-02-29 13:50:04+0000 * antoviaque checking timezones 2012-02-29 13:50:11+0000 <blanchard> 2:30 paris is our current time for meeting yep 2012-02-29 13:50:20+0000 <antoviaque> yep, same time 2012-02-29 13:50:29+0000 <blanchard> And i know that it's difficult to change radically given where everyone is 2012-02-29 13:50:41+0000 <antoviaque> ahhh, the Paris offices you mean! 2012-02-29 13:50:48+0000 <blanchard> yep ! 2012-02-29 13:50:52+0000 <antoviaque> I thought you'd be in Montreal 2012-02-29 13:51:04+0000 <antoviaque> ah, more tricky yep 2012-02-29 13:51:05+0000 <blanchard> sorry about that. No Montreal office yet. I need to find them :) 2012-02-29 13:51:22+0000 <blanchard> I"ll move in may-june i guess 2012-02-29 13:51:25+0000 <arbrandes> I'm open to different meeting times, if that would help 2012-02-29 13:51:25+0000 <antoviaque> what would work for you? 2012-02-29 13:52:01+0000 <antoviaque> yep, we could move it to another time - we thought about later during the day some time ago 2012-02-29 13:52:07+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: the best for me would be early in the morning, unacceptable for you :) 2012-02-29 13:52:28+0000 <antoviaque> ah, waking up in the middle of the night for it is not ideal nope ;p 2012-02-29 13:52:39+0000 <antoviaque> for arbrandes too I guess 2012-02-29 13:52:40+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: I'm not sure yet what my days will look like, i just wanted to raise the topic. We can discuss when i have more visibility 2012-02-29 13:53:13+0000 <antoviaque> ok - you try to see what time would work and raise the issue again? 2012-02-29 13:53:16+0000 <blanchard> though I'd love to have you wake up for me at 3AM everyday for me antoviaque 2012-02-29 13:53:22+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2012-02-29 13:53:30+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yep let's do that 2012-02-29 13:53:41+0000 <antoviaque> I'll just program eve to pretend she's me then 2012-02-29 13:53:46+0000 <antoviaque> ok! 2012-02-29 13:53:46+0000 <blanchard> hehe 2012-02-29 13:53:50+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next 2012-02-29 13:53:50+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Sorry... 2012-02-29 13:53:53+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 13:53:54+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "possible dev for a french studio" from the agenda" (from blanchard) 2012-02-29 13:54:03+0000 <blanchard> hehe, one sec again 2012-02-29 13:54:24+0000 <blanchard> A french studio is publishing a card game (social & mobile) in html5 and could be interested to ask FS to be in charge of the development, starting soon. I don't have details yet. 2012-02-29 13:54:37+0000 <antoviaque> kewl : ) 2012-02-29 13:54:47+0000 <arbrandes> very interesting, indeed! 2012-02-29 13:54:51+0000 <antoviaque> what kind of card game? 2012-02-29 13:54:53+0000 <blanchard> I wanted to discuss it with you, it's interesting but I see 2 issues : 2012-02-29 13:55:13+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: don't know yet, some kind of collecting cards game 2012-02-29 13:55:28+0000 <blanchard> a) I'm not sure it's the best move for FS currently - given the size of the team it would probably break the focus on CS 2012-02-29 13:55:59+0000 <blanchard> but it's worth investigating i guess (duration of work, content, etc) 2012-02-29 13:56:05+0000 <blanchard> b) On a more personal side, it's really not a good timing for me - as i just signed for a job, I'm not sure about the time I could dedicate to the overhead of this project in the next weeks. 2012-02-29 13:56:18+0000 <blanchard> but there again, solutions can be found 2012-02-29 13:56:20+0000 <antoviaque> when would it start? 2012-02-29 13:56:48+0000 <blanchard> so, what are your thought on the overall idea of investigating this ? 2012-02-29 13:57:03+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: early i think. Like first weeks of march 2012-02-29 13:57:17+0000 <antoviaque> what kind of budget? 2012-02-29 13:57:35+0000 <antoviaque> that can heavily influence the decision this part : ) 2012-02-29 13:57:45+0000 <mathibus> hehe 2012-02-29 13:57:51+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: dunno. But probably full time for two coders + some overhead 2012-02-29 13:58:06+0000 <blanchard> for the necessary time... 2012-02-29 13:58:42+0000 <blanchard> i will investigate. My objective now is to have your first feeling about the principle 2012-02-29 14:00:11+0000 <antoviaque> my point is - would we be able to earn a margin on this, or would we just be break even? if we earn a good margin, it's worth it, as it helps funnel the dev of card stories and at the same time puts food on tables - but if it's a bare break even, less sure 2012-02-29 14:00:29+0000 <arbrandes> As far as I'm concerned, it seems like a nice way to extend the time I can spend working with you guys, so I'm all for it. ;) 2012-02-29 14:01:39+0000 <tartarugafeliz> would they need design or illustrations? :) 2012-02-29 14:01:57+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: yep. But if it almost stops the dev of CS for let's say 3 months, even if it brings a margin that will give us let's say one or two months additional dev after that (on top of the remaining current budget), is it worth it ? 2012-02-29 14:02:02+0000 <antoviaque> hehe - no worries, we'll have zillions of players so you're going to work here until you grow senile arbrandes :p 2012-02-29 14:02:08+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: i think it's only prog :/ 2012-02-29 14:02:18+0000 <tartarugafeliz> ok! :) 2012-02-29 14:02:29+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I'm an atheist, but I'll pray to that, lol 2012-02-29 14:02:36+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-02-29 14:02:39+0000 <mtyaka> lol 2012-02-29 14:04:04+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: well, would be glad to hear what tartarugafeliz and mtyaka think, but adding 1-2 months of development plus a game to our portfolio seem good 2012-02-29 14:04:05+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: mtyaka arbrandes what do you think of my point above : margin that will allow for some more dev on CS, but at the cost of probably almost stopping CS for some time 2012-02-29 14:04:25+0000 <blanchard> tartarugafeliz: mathibus opinion welcome too :) ^ 2012-02-29 14:04:43+0000 <antoviaque> ah yes mathibus - sorry I forgot you : ) 2012-02-29 14:04:48+0000 <mtyaka> i'm all for it, it's just that I'm not sure how much time I'll have available in the following months with the new baby arriving 2012-02-29 14:04:58+0000 <antoviaque> ohhh, true 2012-02-29 14:05:07+0000 <mathibus> no pb ;) 2012-02-29 14:05:07+0000 <blanchard> ahhh yep mtyaka true :) 2012-02-29 14:05:09+0000 <antoviaque> that's tricky 2012-02-29 14:05:21+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, regarding stopping CS - it might be possible to somehow work on it simultaneously, but you're right in worrying about it. 2012-02-29 14:05:44+0000 <antoviaque> we could hire extra hands, too 2012-02-29 14:05:47+0000 <blanchard> arbrandes: that would be great yep. But better to consider the worst option ;) 2012-02-29 14:06:09+0000 <arbrandes> blanchard, maybe we can work hard towards achieving an important milestone for CS before starting on this other project. 2012-02-29 14:06:11+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I think depending on the amount of money it will bring its worth it! even if it stops CS for some time, afterwards it will give more time to work on it. 2012-02-29 14:06:26+0000 <tartarugafeliz> yeap agreed with arbrandes 2012-02-29 14:06:30+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: possible option. Though we know how difficult it is to find wonderful persons such as the current team :-p 2012-02-29 14:06:46+0000 <antoviaque> hehehe, yes it's tricky and takes a lot of time/energy 2012-02-29 14:06:49+0000 <tartarugafeliz> thank you thank you!! :P 2012-02-29 14:06:58+0000 <blanchard> arbrandes: i like your idea of the milestone 2012-02-29 14:07:22+0000 <blanchard> It also gives me time to investigate (we're far from knowing if this will work, it's just a lead) 2012-02-29 14:07:33+0000 <antoviaque> but if mtyaka is less available, we may not have much of a choice anyway - depends on the money involved yep 2012-02-29 14:08:31+0000 <blanchard> ok thanks everyone, I have some good feedback from you :) 2012-02-29 14:08:52+0000 <blanchard> there is a last point it's my - possible lack- of availability 2012-02-29 14:10:03+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: try to negotiate a good margin - not sure how rich those guys are, but x2 on the salary cost would already be a very good deal for them imho 2012-02-29 14:10:03+0000 <blanchard> there again, I want to do it. I'm just raising a warning, and i'll let you know how it goes... 2012-02-29 14:10:19+0000 <antoviaque> yep, if you need help, shout! 2012-02-29 14:10:20+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: of course :) 2012-02-29 14:10:34+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2012-02-29 14:10:38+0000 <blanchard> ok thx a lot ! Will keep you posted 2012-02-29 14:10:40+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 14:10:40+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "discuss the doc and see what can be done from it" (from mathibus) 2012-02-29 14:10:58+0000 * antoviaque looking at the doc update 2012-02-29 14:11:39+0000 <antoviaque> ahh, it's the one from our last discussion right mathibus ? 2012-02-29 14:12:10+0000 * antoviaque looking at the tracker too 2012-02-29 14:12:13+0000 <mathibus> i did an update called community framework 2.0 since then 2012-02-29 14:12:28+0000 <mathibus> available on the tracker 2012-02-29 14:12:43+0000 <mathibus> but it's about what we discussed last time 2012-02-29 14:12:51+0000 <antoviaque> ah - http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/835 ? 2012-02-29 14:13:06+0000 <mathibus> yep 2012-02-29 14:13:56+0000 <mathibus> basicaly there are 3 points i'd like to discuss 2012-02-29 14:14:04+0000 <mathibus> CS on Facebook 2012-02-29 14:14:08+0000 <mathibus> the metagoal system 2012-02-29 14:14:34+0000 <mathibus> and the CS universe 2012-02-29 14:15:07+0000 <mathibus> we already talked about fb last week 2012-02-29 14:16:19+0000 * antoviaque just read the updated doc 2012-02-29 14:16:19+0000 <mathibus> but i wanted to explain more with the doc why it can be interesting to put the game on it 2012-02-29 14:17:06+0000 <antoviaque> yup, still think it would be good to figure out a good way to use the like button for the ratings 2012-02-29 14:18:24+0000 * antoviaque reading the tutorial 2012-02-29 14:18:45+0000 <mathibus> i think we can use the like button at the end of the game, when the score windows appears 2012-02-29 14:23:07+0000 <antoviaque> yep, I think for the ideas in the GD doc it's time to decribe them as individual detailled stories - something that clearly specifies the behavior, like http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/646 for example 2012-02-29 14:24:22+0000 <antoviaque> we now agree on the general principles I think (anyone seeing something to contradict in the GD docs?), would be good to look at the details, other discussions are likely to arise from it 2012-02-29 14:24:48+0000 <antoviaque> btw you didn't wanted to put more story in the tutorial? 2012-02-29 14:25:51+0000 <mathibus> it was just a example. I don't think it would be a good idea to put more story if there is nothing in the gameplay related to it 2012-02-29 14:26:05+0000 <antoviaque> oki, understood 2012-02-29 14:26:26+0000 <mathibus> something must be decide before about what feature you want to keep 2012-02-29 14:26:59+0000 <mathibus> and then create a narrative structure around it 2012-02-29 14:27:57+0000 <mathibus> i don't know, may be i'm going to far with these features ? 2012-02-29 14:28:25+0000 <tartarugafeliz> I like the ideas and the tutorial :) 2012-02-29 14:28:36+0000 <antoviaque> not at all - there are a lot of very good things 2012-02-29 14:29:18+0000 <antoviaque> for the decision, you mean you'd need to know which ones to focus on first? 2012-02-29 14:30:29+0000 <mathibus> yeah. I need to know which one you want to keep and develop 2012-02-29 14:31:38+0000 <mathibus> to get a whole view of the mecanics and the gameplay 2012-02-29 14:31:47+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 14:32:29+0000 <antoviaque> I'd say, given what I understand of it so far, the priority I'd see would be: 1) Social rating + facebook, 2) Tutorial 3) player goal 4) metagoal 2012-02-29 14:32:33+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 14:33:37+0000 <mathibus> ok, so you're interested about facebook then :) ! cool ! 2012-02-29 14:33:47+0000 <antoviaque> but this could change depending on the details - I always havea hard time thinking from a too "high level" point of view, it's easier for me whwn it's specs like http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/646 2012-02-29 14:34:17+0000 <antoviaque> yes, there are definitely things we can do better, we under-use that part today 2012-02-29 14:35:30+0000 <mathibus> i know sometimes it'sa little bit abstract :/ 2012-02-29 14:36:40+0000 <mathibus> all these idea have the same purpose : how can we get more players and how can we keep them 2012-02-29 14:37:54+0000 <mathibus> the thing i can do it's to write a doc about the facebook integration 2012-02-29 14:37:59+0000 <antoviaque> yep, that's a good ground : ) 2012-02-29 14:38:07+0000 <mathibus> waht would be the feature related to that 2012-02-29 14:38:19+0000 <mathibus> since the game is on fb 2012-02-29 14:38:31+0000 <antoviaque> mathibus: yup, sounds like a good idea 2012-02-29 14:38:43+0000 <mathibus> about that : what is the amount of work to integrate CS on FB ? 2012-02-29 14:38:51+0000 <mathibus> for the dev 2012-02-29 14:39:01+0000 <antoviaque> keep in mind that we use facebook connect, which has some (but not a lot) of differences with being "on" facebook 2012-02-29 14:39:30+0000 <antoviaque> ah, no, being "on" facebook is almost impossible at this stage, for example because of the size of the board 2012-02-29 14:39:49+0000 <antoviaque> but we can still use most of the features though facebook connect 2012-02-29 14:39:49+0000 <mathibus> ok, that's make a big difference ! 2012-02-29 14:39:56+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-02-29 14:40:02+0000 <mathibus> ok so we can do that then 2012-02-29 14:41:06+0000 <antoviaque> yep - given how little of that we use right now, there is a lot of room for improvement there : ) 2012-02-29 14:41:51+0000 <mathibus> ok i'm go a do a first proposal kit around social rating + facebook 2012-02-29 14:42:05+0000 <antoviaque> Cool, thanks mathibus : ) 2012-02-29 14:42:09+0000 <mathibus> with mockups 2012-02-29 14:42:12+0000 <antoviaque> yey! 2012-02-29 14:42:14+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-02-29 14:42:24+0000 <mathibus> manily 2012-02-29 14:42:28+0000 <mathibus> mainly 2012-02-29 14:42:31+0000 <antoviaque> :) 2012-02-29 14:42:35+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 14:42:35+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "Bananas" (from antoviaque) 2012-02-29 14:42:51+0000 <antoviaque> ah, that one I'll need to update the tracker actually 2012-02-29 14:42:56+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 14:42:56+0000 <eve> antoviaque: The current topic is now "not getting the tables plugin to work, discuss with antoviaque. Probably something stupid on my end. :P" (from arbrandes) 2012-02-29 14:43:03+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes_: got it to work? 2012-02-29 14:44:46+0000 <mathibus> i have to go guys 2012-02-29 14:45:33+0000 <mathibus> have a nice end of meetinf 2012-02-29 14:45:58+0000 <arbrandes_> antoviaque, I think so - I'm now integrating it with my changes 2012-02-29 14:56:29+0000 <antoviaque> cool! 2012-02-29 14:56:33+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next topic 2012-02-29 14:56:33+0000 <eve> antoviaque: That's all folks! 2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting 2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-02-29 14:56:40+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/558608 2012-02-29 15:21:34+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, do you by any chance remember when/how "on_next_owner_change" happens? I want to test the reset behavior in the client 2012-02-29 16:02:05+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: let me check 2012-02-29 16:02:14+0000 <antoviaque> (back from breakfast : ) ) 2012-02-29 16:02:34+0000 <arbrandes> kewl, thanks :) 2012-02-29 16:06:01+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: this should happen when the next_owner disconnects before creating the next game 2012-02-29 16:06:30+0000 <antoviaque> in this case, the next player from the same table who is online becomes the new next_owner 2012-02-29 16:06:52+0000 <antoviaque> and the information on clients is updated so players know about this 2012-02-29 16:08:26+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: if you need other clarifications let me know 2012-02-29 16:15:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, thanks, gonna try it out! the JS tests work, but I want to see it in action 2012-02-29 16:15:07+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2012-02-29 16:15:16+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep : ) 2012-02-29 16:15:32+0000 <antoviaque> Let me know when I can push the release to the test server 2012-02-29 16:24:55+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, almost there 2012-02-29 16:25:01+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2012-02-29 16:35:57+0000 mtyaka_ (mtyaka_) is now online 2012-02-29 16:37:51+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, done! 2012-02-29 16:37:56+0000 <arbrandes> https://gitorious.org/~arbrandes/cardstories/arbrandes-cardstories/commit/9724f9fc5bbb174c5506ad7eca73cdda251f09e0 2012-02-29 16:38:09+0000 <antoviaque> cool - looking & pulling, thanks! 2012-02-29 16:38:39+0000 <arbrandes> No fancy animations and no levels yet, but the score's there ;) 2012-02-29 16:44:23+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2012-02-29 16:45:11+0000 <antoviaque> btw not sure where this is coming from, but python tests are failing on my instance - got the same thing? 2012-02-29 16:45:21+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, lemme try 2012-02-29 16:45:24+0000 <antoviaque> exceptions.AttributeError: CardstoriesGame instance has no attribute 'service' 2012-02-29 16:45:28+0000 <arbrandes> ah 2012-02-29 16:45:30+0000 <antoviaque> __main__.CardstoriesGameTest.test16_timeout 2012-02-29 16:45:59+0000 <arbrandes> I've seen that before, it may be my fault - checking 2012-02-29 16:46:18+0000 <antoviaque> thx! 2012-02-29 16:50:13+0000 <arbrandes> no errors on game.py here 2012-02-29 16:50:16+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque ^ 2012-02-29 16:50:43+0000 <antoviaque> weird, I stashed my changes so it should be the same result 2012-02-29 16:50:49+0000 <antoviaque> did you merge with mtyaka? 2012-02-29 16:51:13+0000 <antoviaque> wait, let me push what I have, this way we'll have the same thing 2012-02-29 16:52:02+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, nope, I'm only merging with you 2012-02-29 16:53:42+0000 <arbrandes> (btw, I'm getting python-nltk dependency issues on the bot, maybe we should update the readme with the stuff) 2012-02-29 16:54:00+0000 <antoviaque> it should be in the readme? did I miss this? 2012-02-29 16:54:28+0000 <arbrandes> ahhhhh, there's a bot-specific readme 2012-02-29 16:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> my bad (again) 2012-02-29 16:54:31+0000 <arbrandes> heheh 2012-02-29 16:55:44+0000 <antoviaque> btw best to pull regularly from each other - I maintain the main repo, but the merge happen upon release, so this can create this kind of suprises 2012-02-29 16:56:27+0000 <antoviaque> I'm going to open a ticket, hopefully this is just a problem withthe test and won't hinder playing : ) 2012-02-29 16:56:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I thought we had agreed to always pull from one master repo, only 2012-02-29 16:57:05+0000 <arbrandes> But I'm fine either way - as long as we communicate regularly, there shouldn't be many problems ;) 2012-02-29 16:57:15+0000 <antoviaque> you're probably right, I don't remember exactly what we said about this 2012-02-29 16:57:52+0000 <arbrandes> should I wait for your push, then? 2012-02-29 16:58:04+0000 <arbrandes> Or do I go ahead and pull mtyaka's master? 2012-02-29 16:58:15+0000 <antoviaque> you can pull my repo, it's up to date 2012-02-29 16:58:20+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2012-02-29 16:58:39+0000 <antoviaque> but yep, don't hesitate to pull regularly mtyaka & my repo through the week 2012-02-29 16:59:41+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I pull from yours every time I'm going to commit (the old stash+fetch+merge+apply) 2012-02-29 17:00:02+0000 <antoviaque> when I'm active I do this regularly too, but lately with hacker school I have been producing a lot less commits, so it's less efficient to just monitor mine I think 2012-02-29 17:00:28+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, okeydoke, I understand completely 2012-02-29 17:01:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, nothing wrong - if someone is to blame in that case it's me : ) 2012-02-29 17:02:50+0000 <antoviaque> uh, now it passes - strange 2012-02-29 17:02:52+0000 <arbrandes> I don't think anybody's wrong - we gotta be able to adjust to different conditions as they come up, right? :) It's why this is a good system / team, hehehhe 2012-02-29 17:03:01+0000 <antoviaque> agreed :D 2012-02-29 17:08:55+0000 <arbrandes> I'm getting a failure for test 17 on game.py, though - git blame suggests we should talk to mtyaka ;) 2012-02-29 17:09:26+0000 <arbrandes> Alternatively, it's a problem with my environment 2012-02-29 17:09:54+0000 <antoviaque> well, it's strange, the tests now pass on mine 2012-02-29 17:10:32+0000 <antoviaque> maybe something to do with my version of django (not sure, but I think we import some stuff from the django libs) - I had to switch back from the development version to 1.2.3 2012-02-29 17:10:48+0000 <arbrandes> I think I went back, too 2012-02-29 17:10:49+0000 <antoviaque> sounds weird though 2012-02-29 17:11:12+0000 <arbrandes> I'm going to investigate a bit further 2012-02-29 17:11:31+0000 <arbrandes> But first I gotta eat 2012-02-29 17:11:35+0000 <arbrandes> Are you going to deploy anyway? 2012-02-29 17:22:01+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, everything ok? I gotta go out to eat, gonna be away for a couple of hours 2012-02-29 17:35:39+0000 <antoviaque> yep, atleast on the test server 2012-02-29 17:35:52+0000 * antoviaque investigating another issue with django auth 2012-02-29 17:36:00+0000 <antoviaque> *django auth test 2012-02-29 18:07:17+0000 <antoviaque> ok, I'm seeing lots of bugs, I think there has been a problem with the merge of both your code bases, mtyaka / arbrandes 2012-02-29 18:08:02+0000 <antoviaque> I've entered a few above, but I'm stopping there as it's likely some deeper problems that cause this 2012-02-29 18:08:54+0000 <antoviaque> (or some problems with my install / environments) 2012-02-29 18:40:18+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I think I'll be able to look at the problems later tonight 2012-02-29 19:52:14+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: thanks! 2012-02-29 20:00:39+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-02-29 21:52:35+0000 <mtyaka> test_game.py tests all pass for me 2012-02-29 21:59:21+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: I think I know what the problem is... there was a new migration file with my largest commit inside the migrations folder, numbered 003 2012-02-29 21:59:57+0000 <mtyaka> It looks like it wasn't run on the test server 2012-02-29 22:00:08+0000 * antoviaque looking 2012-02-29 22:00:05+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: oh, I missed that? shame on me! 2012-02-29 22:00:38+0000 <mtyaka> well, I should have mentioned it more loudly, as it's quite important 2012-02-29 22:01:15+0000 <mtyaka> you should backup the db first before running it 2012-02-29 22:01:33+0000 <mtyaka> because it's quite.... agressive 2012-02-29 22:03:25+0000 <antoviaque> ok : ) 2012-02-29 22:08:37+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: ah, yep, looks much better : ) 2012-02-29 22:09:35+0000 <antoviaque> I still have the issue of the "+" new tab that doesn't appear though 2012-02-29 22:10:04+0000 <mtyaka> antoviaque: yes, me too... that's because we were creating new games while the database hasn't been migrated yet 2012-02-29 22:10:23+0000 <mtyaka> the games are in 'invitation' state but don't have a card or a sentence, that's what's confusing the tabs plugin 2012-02-29 22:10:40+0000 <mtyaka> can you run an sql query? 2012-02-29 22:10:48+0000 <antoviaque> sure 2012-02-29 22:11:01+0000 <mtyaka> something like "UPDATE games SET state = 'created' WHERE sentence = ''"; 2012-02-29 22:11:22+0000 <mtyaka> no, no 2012-02-29 22:11:29+0000 <mtyaka> state = 'create', not 'created' 2012-02-29 22:11:30+0000 <mtyaka> sorry :) 2012-02-29 22:12:01+0000 <mtyaka> or maybe WHERE sentence IS NULL, I'm not sure :( 2012-02-29 22:12:06+0000 <antoviaque> mtyaka: you can even run it directly yourself if you want - just be careful to update the test.cardstories.org* dbs, not cardstories.org : ) 2012-02-29 22:12:18+0000 <antoviaque> /var/www/db 2012-02-29 22:12:24+0000 <antoviaque> @cardstories.org 2012-02-29 22:12:58+0000 <mtyaka> ok, I'll do it 2012-02-29 22:13:06+0000 <antoviaque> just document it in a ticket, in case I (or someone else) need to redo this, for example when migrating the live server 2012-02-29 22:13:16+0000 <antoviaque> thanks! 2012-02-29 22:13:41+0000 <antoviaque> actually it could be good to add it at the end of the migration file 2012-02-29 22:14:06+0000 <mtyaka> yup, it won't do any harm, and it might help 2012-02-29 22:14:11+0000 <mtyaka> good idea, I'll add it 2012-02-29 22:51:15+0000 <dachary> http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/repository was moved elsewhere ? _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/

