Hi, Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-03-01.
2012-03-01 00:34:25+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-01 00:43:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-03-01 00:43:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online 2012-03-01 08:35:32+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online 2012-03-01 12:52:55+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-03-01 12:54:09+0000 <mtyaka> hi everyone 2012-03-01 12:54:31+0000 <mtyaka> something has come up and I need to go out and probably won't be back in time for the meeting 2012-03-01 12:55:13+0000 <mtyaka> sorry for not being able to notify you a day in advance :( 2012-03-01 12:55:18+0000 <mtyaka> here's my report for eve: 2012-03-01 12:55:20+0000 <mtyaka> eve: done Figure out the reason for strange behavior on test server (forgot to run migration). 2012-03-01 12:55:21+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress. 2012-03-01 12:55:22+0000 <mtyaka> eve: next Continue working on #838 (show what the author is doing in create state). 2012-03-01 12:55:22+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress. 2012-03-01 12:55:23+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blocked by nothing. 2012-03-01 12:55:24+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress. 2012-03-01 13:19:33+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-01 13:24:45+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online 2012-03-01 13:25:15+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online 2012-03-01 13:30:37+0000 <antoviaque> hello! 2012-03-01 13:31:01+0000 <blanchard> hi 2012-03-01 13:31:33+0000 <arbrandes> yo-yo ma 2012-03-01 13:32:23+0000 <antoviaque> oy oy 2012-03-01 13:32:30+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting 2012-03-01 13:32:30+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve: (done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..." 2012-03-01 13:32:57+0000 <blanchard> eve: done scheduled meeting next week regarding contracting work 2012-03-01 13:32:58+0000 <eve> blanchard: Good job! 2012-03-01 13:33:04+0000 <blanchard> eve: next school work; tomorrow i won't be able to attend our meeting, I'll be heading back to Paris 2012-03-01 13:33:04+0000 <eve> blanchard: Quite a plan. 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <blanchard> eve: blocked by nothing 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> blanchard: Glad to hear that 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard's report: 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> - What blanchard worked on: 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> * scheduled meeting next week regarding contracting work 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> - What blanchard will be working on next: 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> * school work 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> * tomorrow i won't be able to attend our meeting, I'll be heading back to Paris 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> - What's blocking blanchard: 2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done Finished integrating scores with tables (#837). 2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job! 2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next Bananas for 2.6, and get started. 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan. 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by nothing. 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Glad to hear that 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report: 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes worked on: 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> * Finished integrating scores with tables (#837) 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> - What arbrandes will be working on next: 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> * Bananas for 2.6, and get started 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> - What's blocking arbrandes: 2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-03-01 13:34:13+0000 <arbrandes> Did everything work, btw, antoviaque? 2012-03-01 13:35:17+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I need to finish restesting to be sure, I had to run after mtyaka looked at it yesterday, but it looked alright 2012-03-01 13:35:24+0000 <arbrandes> kewl 2012-03-01 13:35:53+0000 <antoviaque> I still have a failing test on my local instance that I can't explain though, but probably an environment problem ( http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/839 ) 2012-03-01 13:36:25+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: \o/ you warned one day in advance!! :p 2012-03-01 13:36:36+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: hahaha 2012-03-01 13:36:38+0000 <antoviaque> :D 2012-03-01 13:36:43+0000 * arbrandes looking at #839 2012-03-01 13:39:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Figure out the reason for strange behavior on test server (forgot to run migration) [mtyaka] 2012-03-01 13:39:45+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next Continue working on #838 (show what the author is doing in create state) [mtyaka] 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan. 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by nothing [mtyaka] 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Glad to hear that 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> My notes of mtyaka's report: 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka worked on: 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> * Figure out the reason for strange behavior on test server (forgot to run migration) 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> - What mtyaka will be working on next: 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> * Continue working on #838 (show what the author is doing in create state) 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> - What's blocking mtyaka: 2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> * nothing 2012-03-01 13:40:34+0000 <antoviaque> (mtyaka warned above - although not in advance! :p - that he had to run before the meeting) 2012-03-01 13:40:58+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I worked on my freelancers and I finished 2 of them!!! Now, there is just one to finish! continued preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb page if you want btw! :) 2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job! 2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll finish the last freelancer, search for more of them and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos 2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan. 2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by none 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report: 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz worked on: 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> * I worked on my freelancers and I finished 2 of them!!! Now, there is just one to finish! continued preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb page if you want btw! :) 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next: 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> * I'll finish the last freelancer, search for more of them and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> - What's blocking tartarugafeliz: 2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> * none 2012-03-01 13:41:10+0000 <arbrandes> I can reproduce #839, btw, antoviaque 2012-03-01 13:41:15+0000 <arbrandes> if you want, I can take it on for this sprint 2012-03-01 13:41:29+0000 <arbrandes> congrats, tartarugafeliz :) 2012-03-01 13:41:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ah, good to know :D 2012-03-01 13:41:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-03-01 13:42:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, would be good, otherwise we may not see other failing tests 2012-03-01 13:42:07+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I believe it has something to do with the extended userprofile + south 2012-03-01 13:42:15+0000 <antoviaque> It probably has something to do with the south migrations 2012-03-01 13:42:18+0000 <antoviaque> yep ;p 2012-03-01 13:42:19+0000 <arbrandes> yup 2012-03-01 13:42:21+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2012-03-01 13:42:23+0000 <antoviaque> :p 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Pushed & tested v2.5 on test server 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job! 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next Test again v2.5 following mtyaka's fixes; prepare 2.6 sprint 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan. 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by burn out 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: We'll need to solve that later, I'm adding it to the agenda 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report: 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque worked on: 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> * Pushed & tested v2.5 on test server 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> - What antoviaque will be working on next: 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> * Test again v2.5 following mtyaka's fixes 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> * prepare 2.6 sprint 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> - What's blocking antoviaque: 2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> * burn out 2012-03-01 13:43:02+0000 <arbrandes> you burnt out? I understand completely, lol 2012-03-01 13:43:23+0000 <antoviaque> well, this sounds bigger than it is actually :) it's not a full-fledged burn-out, but I've learn to recognize the signs when this begins 2012-03-01 13:43:47+0000 <arbrandes> How about this: lemme work on setting up 2.6 + bananas, and later on today I'll ping you for a quick overview 2012-03-01 13:44:12+0000 <antoviaque> oh, that would be very nice : ) 2012-03-01 13:44:38+0000 <antoviaque> for the burn out, right now it's not too bad, but rather than pushing and ending up with a big one, I need to take care of it 2012-03-01 13:44:53+0000 <arbrandes> I'll just make educated guesses based on what you guys've been doing 2012-03-01 13:44:59+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I know exactly what you're talking about 2012-03-01 13:45:14+0000 <arbrandes> The good thing about getting older is that one can recognize the signs in advance :) 2012-03-01 13:45:21+0000 <antoviaque> yes, the 2.6 sprint should be straightforward : ) 2012-03-01 13:45:26+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep ;p 2012-03-01 13:45:53+0000 <antoviaque> The fact that it happens in the middle of hacker school doesn't help, though - I normally would take a couple of weeks completely off, but I can't do that right now 2012-03-01 13:46:03+0000 <arbrandes> ooo, yeah, H/S 2012-03-01 13:46:09+0000 <arbrandes> it must be pretty heavy by itself 2012-03-01 13:46:25+0000 <antoviaque> yep, they are demanding :p 2012-03-01 13:47:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when was the last time you had holidays antoviaque? :) 2012-03-01 13:47:14+0000 <antoviaque> I think I'm going to slow down the code contributions to CS for a little while - I'll still take care of the sprints & tickets & releases, but I'm going to let the rest come back naturally 2012-03-01 13:47:49+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, yes, that's the main problem I guess : ) 2012-03-01 13:47:50+0000 <arbrandes> Well, I'll try to take up the slack as far as CS is concerned - just tell me if there's anything specific you want me to take up. 2012-03-01 13:48:06+0000 <arbrandes> ok 2012-03-01 13:48:07+0000 * blanchard catching up with the log 2012-03-01 13:48:09+0000 <arbrandes> :) 2012-03-01 13:48:26+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i can perfectly understand that 2012-03-01 13:48:29+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: that's very nice of you, really appreciate it : ) 2012-03-01 13:48:51+0000 <blanchard> 50 years without taking holidays is too much, even for you 2012-03-01 13:48:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :) 2012-03-01 13:48:57+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2012-03-01 13:48:57+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ahahahaha 2012-03-01 13:49:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahahah 2012-03-01 13:49:06+0000 <antoviaque> I thought I would hold until 100, dammit 2012-03-01 13:49:55+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh, as we say in portuguese, "no one is made of iron" 2012-03-01 13:50:01+0000 <antoviaque> ;p 2012-03-01 13:50:14+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: let me know if i can help. Next week is going to be a mess on my side, with the school starting and all, but after i can really try to look at what could be done 2012-03-01 13:50:36+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: thanks : ) 2012-03-01 13:50:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> HAHAHAAHAH arbrandes 2012-03-01 13:50:57+0000 <arbrandes> :) tartarugafeliz 2012-03-01 13:52:06+0000 <arbrandes> d00ds, I have to make a quick run to the drugstore; antoviaque, I'll get on 2.6 in 15 minutes, and I'll holler when I'm done. 2012-03-01 13:52:06+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: for the 2.6 sprint, don't hesitate if you need anything though - I'll also push the release once the tests are ok, those things I can still do : ) 2012-03-01 13:52:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger, roger 2012-03-01 13:52:20+0000 <antoviaque> perfect! 2012-03-01 13:52:25+0000 <antoviaque> thanks a lot : ) 2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda 2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda: 2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: 1. burn out 2012-03-01 13:52:34+0000 <arbrandes> np, that's why I'm here ;) 2012-03-01 13:52:35+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha 2012-03-01 13:52:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahah 2012-03-01 13:52:42+0000 <arbrandes> lol 2012-03-01 13:52:58+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the meeting - and for the kind words : ) 2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting 2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended 2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <eve> Minutes available at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/559137 2012-03-01 13:53:12+0000 <arbrandes> okeydoke :) brb 2012-03-01 13:53:30+0000 <blanchard> bybye 2012-03-01 14:19:54+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-01 16:16:06+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, can you give a guess as to how many bananas would #831 take, and/or should be just postpone this? 2012-03-01 16:16:54+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, same for #736/#838 - are you going to work on this for Monday? If so, care to guess how many bananas? :) 2012-03-01 16:17:20+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: 3-4 bananas in total, about 2 bananas left 2012-03-01 16:17:28+0000 <antoviaque> but I think we can postpone it 2012-03-01 16:18:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger, I'll just fill in some bananas and take it off 2.6 2012-03-01 16:18:10+0000 <antoviaque> what I've done is not really usable without context on what's left to do, so when I pick it up I'll refactor things that depend on it 2012-03-01 16:18:17+0000 <arbrandes> okeydoke 2012-03-01 16:18:26+0000 <antoviaque> hopefully it should not be much more than the current dependencies on it 2012-03-01 16:19:29+0000 <arbrandes> On a related note: how is the order field working, again? Which query shows the stories in order? 2012-03-01 16:19:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque ^ 2012-03-01 16:19:58+0000 <antoviaque> on http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=16 2012-03-01 16:20:10+0000 <antoviaque> the order is in numerical order - ie 10 appears before 20 2012-03-01 16:20:43+0000 <arbrandes> This only works for ones in an actual sprint, is that it? 2012-03-01 16:21:05+0000 <arbrandes> The "None" ones don't appear in any order - or is this something I should configure locally? 2012-03-01 16:21:49+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, I have to configure it locally 2012-03-01 16:21:50+0000 <arbrandes> kewl 2012-03-01 16:21:54+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :) 2012-03-01 16:38:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, if you could also take a look at http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/851 and see which bugs are essential for 2.6 - I'll take a look at #839 (the djangoauth test), but #782 seems like a tough cookie, don't know if there'll be time. 2012-03-01 16:40:27+0000 <arbrandes> Otherwise, pending mtyaka's bananas for #786, the sprint is sort of ready. I'm basically going to implement levels, and then a couple of the first animations. If there's some time left, I'll work on the remaining animations (ordered in the "None" section of query 16) 2012-03-01 16:41:34+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online 2012-03-01 16:43:29+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, hey dude, can you check #786 and estimate some bananas for it? Are you going to work on #838 this week? 2012-03-01 16:53:26+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, also, if you could check #851 for any bugs you might want to take on for this sprint... ;) 2012-03-01 17:04:10+0000 * antoviaque looking : ) 2012-03-01 17:04:37+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :) 2012-03-01 17:04:54+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, #782 has been around for a couple of sprints - we could move it to the technical debt story 2012-03-01 17:05:35+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, hmm, I was wondering what that story was, heheheh 2012-03-01 17:05:37+0000 <arbrandes> kewl 2012-03-01 17:07:17+0000 <antoviaque> yep, we need to keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't become too big 2012-03-01 17:09:04+0000 <antoviaque> actually there is probably already matter for spending a sprint on it - I'd say after the tabs/tables/levels are all functional, could be good to spend time fixing at least a part of those 2012-03-01 17:09:19+0000 <antoviaque> some may not be really important though, and could be left off 2012-03-01 17:10:10+0000 <antoviaque> but better not let this accumulate to the point where we won't to even look at it :p 2012-03-01 17:11:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, we're on the same page - I just set it's order field to "1", and roughly estimated it's bananas at "13" (currently :P) 2012-03-01 17:11:47+0000 <arbrandes> *its 2012-03-01 17:12:36+0000 <arbrandes> At least this way we don't forget it exists. I'm adding the topic to my "blocked by" list for tomorrow 2012-03-01 17:13:23+0000 <antoviaque> yep, but some stuff like #716 or #723 are actually nice'to-haves 2012-03-01 17:13:46+0000 <antoviaque> #833 can be done progressively - it's more a question of starting off the process 2012-03-01 17:14:06+0000 <antoviaque> some of the others are big, though 2012-03-01 17:14:40+0000 <arbrandes> That's what I was going to suggest: at every sprint planning session, we should at least look at the tech debt ticket and select something from it. 2012-03-01 17:15:00+0000 <antoviaque> yup, sounds good 2012-03-01 18:14:42+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yup, I'm going to work on #838 2012-03-01 18:14:54+0000 <mtyaka> I entered 2 bananas for #786 2012-03-01 18:15:33+0000 <mtyaka> as far as the bugs are concerned, I could take a look at #843 2012-03-01 18:33:32+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, cool, thx! 2012-03-01 19:11:42+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online 2012-03-01 19:23:07+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-03-01 20:05:43+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-03-01 20:32:36+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-03-01 22:15:32+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online 2012-03-01 22:33:00+0000 arbrandes_ (arbrandes_) is now online _______________________________________________ Farsides mailing list - [email protected] Wiki: http://farsides.com/ List: http://farsides.com/ml/ Forum: http://farsides.com/forum/ Ideas: http://farsides.com/ideas/ Chat: http://farsides.com/chat/

