Hi,

Here is the log of the chatroom at http://farsides.com/chat/ (or 
irc://irc.freenode.net/#farsides) for the 2012-03-01.


2012-03-01 00:34:25+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-03-01 00:43:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2012-03-01 00:43:22+0000 xrogaan (xrogaan) is now online
2012-03-01 08:35:32+0000 dachary (dachary) is now online
2012-03-01 12:52:55+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-03-01 12:54:09+0000 <mtyaka> hi everyone
2012-03-01 12:54:31+0000 <mtyaka> something has come up and I need to go out 
and probably won't be back in time for the meeting
2012-03-01 12:55:13+0000 <mtyaka> sorry for not being able to notify you a day 
in advance :(
2012-03-01 12:55:18+0000 <mtyaka> here's my report for eve:
2012-03-01 12:55:20+0000 <mtyaka> eve: done Figure out the reason for strange 
behavior on test server (forgot to run migration).
2012-03-01 12:55:21+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
2012-03-01 12:55:22+0000 <mtyaka> eve: next Continue working on #838 (show what 
the author is doing in create state).
2012-03-01 12:55:22+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
2012-03-01 12:55:23+0000 <mtyaka> eve: blocked by nothing.
2012-03-01 12:55:24+0000 <eve> mtyaka: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
2012-03-01 13:19:33+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-03-01 13:24:45+0000 tartarugafeliz (tartarugafeliz) is now online
2012-03-01 13:25:15+0000 blanchard (blanchard) is now online
2012-03-01 13:30:37+0000 <antoviaque> hello!
2012-03-01 13:31:01+0000 <blanchard> hi
2012-03-01 13:31:33+0000 <arbrandes> yo-yo ma
2012-03-01 13:32:23+0000 <antoviaque> oy oy
2012-03-01 13:32:30+0000 <antoviaque> eve: start meeting
2012-03-01 13:32:30+0000 * eve antoviaque arbrandes blanchard blanchard1 
dachary mtyaka tartarugafeliz and al: daily meeting starts! Please say "eve: 
(done|next|blocked by) <first thing>, <second thing>, ..."
2012-03-01 13:32:57+0000 <blanchard> eve: done scheduled meeting next week 
regarding contracting work
2012-03-01 13:32:58+0000 <eve> blanchard: Good job!
2012-03-01 13:33:04+0000 <blanchard> eve: next school work; tomorrow i won't be 
able to attend our meeting, I'll be heading back to Paris
2012-03-01 13:33:04+0000 <eve> blanchard: Quite a plan.
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <blanchard> eve: blocked by nothing
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> blanchard: Glad to hear that
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve> My notes of blanchard's report:
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>  - What blanchard worked on:
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>      * scheduled meeting next week regarding 
contracting work
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>  - What blanchard will be working on next:
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>      * school work
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>      * tomorrow i won't be able to attend our 
meeting, I'll be heading back to Paris
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking blanchard:
2012-03-01 13:33:11+0000 <eve>      * nothing
2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <arbrandes> eve: done Finished integrating scores with 
tables (#837).
2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Good job!
2012-03-01 13:33:48+0000 <arbrandes> eve: next Bananas for 2.6, and get started.
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Quite a plan.
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <arbrandes> eve: blocked by nothing.
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> arbrandes: Glad to hear that
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve> My notes of arbrandes's report:
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>  - What arbrandes worked on:
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>      * Finished integrating scores with tables 
(#837)
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>  - What arbrandes will be working on next:
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>      * Bananas for 2.6, and get started
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking arbrandes:
2012-03-01 13:33:49+0000 <eve>      * nothing
2012-03-01 13:34:13+0000 <arbrandes> Did everything work, btw, antoviaque?
2012-03-01 13:35:17+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: I need to finish restesting to 
be sure, I had to run after mtyaka looked at it yesterday, but it looked alright
2012-03-01 13:35:24+0000 <arbrandes> kewl
2012-03-01 13:35:53+0000 <antoviaque> I still have a failing test on my local 
instance that I can't explain though, but probably an environment problem ( 
http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/839 )
2012-03-01 13:36:25+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: \o/ you warned one day in 
advance!! :p
2012-03-01 13:36:36+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: hahaha
2012-03-01 13:36:38+0000 <antoviaque> :D
2012-03-01 13:36:43+0000 * arbrandes looking at #839
2012-03-01 13:39:45+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Figure out the reason for 
strange behavior on test server (forgot to run migration) [mtyaka]
2012-03-01 13:39:45+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job!
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next Continue working on #838 (show 
what the author is doing in create state) [mtyaka]
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan.
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by nothing [mtyaka]
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Glad to hear that
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve> My notes of mtyaka's report:
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>  - What mtyaka worked on:
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>      * Figure out the reason for strange 
behavior on test server (forgot to run migration)
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>  - What mtyaka will be working on next:
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>      * Continue working on #838 (show what the 
author is doing in create state)
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking mtyaka:
2012-03-01 13:39:46+0000 <eve>      * nothing
2012-03-01 13:40:34+0000 <antoviaque> (mtyaka warned above - although not in 
advance! :p - that he had to run before the meeting)
2012-03-01 13:40:58+0000 <arbrandes> ok
2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: done I worked on my freelancers 
and I finished 2 of them!!! Now, there  is just one to finish! continued 
preparing TF for animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb 
page if you want btw! :)
2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Good job!
2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: next I'll finish the last 
freelancer, search for more of them and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e 
Seus Amigos
2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Quite a plan.
2012-03-01 13:41:04+0000 <tartarugafeliz> eve: blocked by none
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> tartarugafeliz: Glad to hear that
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve> My notes of tartarugafeliz's report:
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>  - What tartarugafeliz worked on:
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>      * I worked on my freelancers and I finished 
2 of them!!! Now, there  is just one to finish! continued preparing TF for 
animation on Toon Boom - you can follow the results on the fb page if you want 
btw! :)
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>  - What tartarugafeliz will be working on next:
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>      * I'll finish the last freelancer, search 
for more of them and continue working on Tartaruga Feliz e Seus Amigos
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking tartarugafeliz:
2012-03-01 13:41:05+0000 <eve>      * none
2012-03-01 13:41:10+0000 <arbrandes> I can reproduce #839, btw, antoviaque
2012-03-01 13:41:15+0000 <arbrandes> if you want, I can take it on for this 
sprint
2012-03-01 13:41:29+0000 <arbrandes> congrats, tartarugafeliz :)
2012-03-01 13:41:33+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: ah, good to know :D
2012-03-01 13:41:35+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-03-01 13:42:00+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, would be good, otherwise 
we may not see other failing tests
2012-03-01 13:42:07+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, I believe it has something to 
do with the extended userprofile + south
2012-03-01 13:42:15+0000 <antoviaque> It probably has something to do with the 
south migrations
2012-03-01 13:42:18+0000 <antoviaque> yep ;p
2012-03-01 13:42:19+0000 <arbrandes> yup
2012-03-01 13:42:21+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2012-03-01 13:42:23+0000 <antoviaque> :p
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: done Pushed & tested v2.5 on test 
server
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Good job!
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: next Test again v2.5 following 
mtyaka's fixes; prepare 2.6 sprint
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Quite a plan.
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <antoviaque> eve: blocked by burn out
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> antoviaque: We'll need to solve that later, I'm 
adding it to the agenda
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve> My notes of antoviaque's report:
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>  - What antoviaque worked on:
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>      * Pushed & tested v2.5 on test server
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>  - What antoviaque will be working on next:
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>      * Test again v2.5 following mtyaka's fixes
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>      * prepare 2.6 sprint
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>  - What's blocking antoviaque:
2012-03-01 13:42:46+0000 <eve>      * burn out
2012-03-01 13:43:02+0000 <arbrandes> you burnt out?  I understand completely, 
lol
2012-03-01 13:43:23+0000 <antoviaque> well, this sounds bigger than it is 
actually :) it's not a full-fledged burn-out, but I've learn to recognize the 
signs when this begins
2012-03-01 13:43:47+0000 <arbrandes> How about this: lemme work on setting up 
2.6 + bananas, and later on today I'll ping you for a quick overview
2012-03-01 13:44:12+0000 <antoviaque> oh, that would be very nice : )
2012-03-01 13:44:38+0000 <antoviaque> for the burn out, right now it's not too 
bad, but rather than pushing and ending up with a big one, I need to take care 
of it
2012-03-01 13:44:53+0000 <arbrandes> I'll just make educated guesses based on 
what you guys've been doing
2012-03-01 13:44:59+0000 <arbrandes> Yup, I know exactly what you're talking 
about
2012-03-01 13:45:14+0000 <arbrandes> The good thing about getting older is that 
one can recognize the signs in advance :)
2012-03-01 13:45:21+0000 <antoviaque> yes, the 2.6 sprint should be 
straightforward : )
2012-03-01 13:45:26+0000 <antoviaque> hehe, yep ;p
2012-03-01 13:45:53+0000 <antoviaque> The fact that it happens in the middle of 
hacker school doesn't help, though - I normally would take a couple of weeks 
completely off, but I can't do that right now
2012-03-01 13:46:03+0000 <arbrandes> ooo, yeah, H/S
2012-03-01 13:46:09+0000 <arbrandes> it must be pretty heavy by itself
2012-03-01 13:46:25+0000 <antoviaque> yep, they are demanding :p
2012-03-01 13:47:09+0000 <tartarugafeliz> when was the last time you had 
holidays antoviaque? :)
2012-03-01 13:47:14+0000 <antoviaque> I think I'm going to slow down the code 
contributions to CS for a little while - I'll still take care of the sprints & 
tickets & releases, but I'm going to let the rest come back naturally
2012-03-01 13:47:49+0000 <antoviaque> ahahah, yes, that's the main problem I 
guess : )
2012-03-01 13:47:50+0000 <arbrandes> Well, I'll try to take up the slack as far 
as CS is concerned - just tell me if there's anything specific you want me to 
take up.
2012-03-01 13:48:06+0000 <arbrandes> ok
2012-03-01 13:48:07+0000 * blanchard catching up with the log
2012-03-01 13:48:09+0000 <arbrandes> :)
2012-03-01 13:48:26+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: i can perfectly understand that
2012-03-01 13:48:29+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: that's very nice of you, 
really appreciate it : )
2012-03-01 13:48:51+0000 <blanchard> 50 years without taking holidays is too 
much, even for you
2012-03-01 13:48:52+0000 <tartarugafeliz> :)
2012-03-01 13:48:57+0000 <arbrandes> lol
2012-03-01 13:48:57+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: ahahahaha
2012-03-01 13:49:00+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahaahahah
2012-03-01 13:49:06+0000 <antoviaque> I thought I would hold until 100, dammit
2012-03-01 13:49:55+0000 <arbrandes> heheheheh, as we say in portuguese, "no 
one is made of iron"
2012-03-01 13:50:01+0000 <antoviaque> ;p
2012-03-01 13:50:14+0000 <blanchard> antoviaque: let me know if i can help. 
Next week is going to be a mess on my side, with the school starting and all, 
but after i can really try to look at what could be done
2012-03-01 13:50:36+0000 <antoviaque> blanchard: thanks : )
2012-03-01 13:50:47+0000 <tartarugafeliz> HAHAHAAHAH arbrandes
2012-03-01 13:50:57+0000 <arbrandes> :) tartarugafeliz 
2012-03-01 13:52:06+0000 <arbrandes> d00ds, I have to make a quick run to the 
drugstore; antoviaque, I'll get on 2.6 in 15 minutes, and I'll holler when I'm 
done.
2012-03-01 13:52:06+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: for the 2.6 sprint, don't 
hesitate if you need anything though - I'll also push the release once the 
tests are ok, those things I can still do : )
2012-03-01 13:52:12+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger, roger
2012-03-01 13:52:20+0000 <antoviaque> perfect!
2012-03-01 13:52:25+0000 <antoviaque> thanks a lot : )
2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <antoviaque> eve: agenda
2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque: Here is the current agenda:
2012-03-01 13:52:29+0000 <eve> antoviaque:   1. burn out 
2012-03-01 13:52:34+0000 <arbrandes> np, that's why I'm here ;)
2012-03-01 13:52:35+0000 <antoviaque> ahahaha
2012-03-01 13:52:37+0000 <tartarugafeliz> hahahahah
2012-03-01 13:52:42+0000 <arbrandes> lol
2012-03-01 13:52:58+0000 <antoviaque> thanks for the meeting - and for the kind 
words : )
2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <antoviaque> eve: end meeting
2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <eve> Meeting Ended
2012-03-01 13:53:02+0000 <eve> Minutes available at 
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/559137
2012-03-01 13:53:12+0000 <arbrandes> okeydoke :) brb
2012-03-01 13:53:30+0000 <blanchard> bybye
2012-03-01 14:19:54+0000 arbrandes (arbrandes) is now online
2012-03-01 16:16:06+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, can you give a guess as to how 
many bananas would #831 take, and/or should be just postpone this?
2012-03-01 16:16:54+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, same for #736/#838 - are you going 
to work on this for Monday?  If so, care to guess how many bananas? :)
2012-03-01 16:17:20+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: 3-4 bananas in total, about 2 
bananas left
2012-03-01 16:17:28+0000 <antoviaque> but I think we can postpone it 
2012-03-01 16:18:04+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, roger, I'll just fill in some 
bananas and take it off 2.6
2012-03-01 16:18:10+0000 <antoviaque> what I've done is not really usable 
without context on what's left to do, so when I pick it up I'll refactor things 
that depend on it
2012-03-01 16:18:17+0000 <arbrandes> okeydoke
2012-03-01 16:18:26+0000 <antoviaque> hopefully it should not be much more than 
the current dependencies on it
2012-03-01 16:19:29+0000 <arbrandes> On a related note: how is the order field 
working, again?  Which query shows the stories in order?
2012-03-01 16:19:33+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque ^
2012-03-01 16:19:58+0000 <antoviaque> on 
http://tickets.farsides.com/projects/cardstories/issues?query_id=16
2012-03-01 16:20:10+0000 <antoviaque> the order is in numerical order - ie 10 
appears before 20
2012-03-01 16:20:43+0000 <arbrandes> This only works for ones in an actual 
sprint, is that it?
2012-03-01 16:21:05+0000 <arbrandes> The "None" ones don't appear in any order 
- or is this something I should configure locally?
2012-03-01 16:21:49+0000 <arbrandes> Oh, I have to configure it locally
2012-03-01 16:21:50+0000 <arbrandes> kewl
2012-03-01 16:21:54+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :)
2012-03-01 16:38:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, if you could also take a look 
at http://tickets.farsides.com/issues/851 and see which bugs are essential for 
2.6 - I'll take a look at #839 (the djangoauth test), but #782 seems like a 
tough cookie, don't know if there'll be time.
2012-03-01 16:40:27+0000 <arbrandes> Otherwise, pending mtyaka's bananas for 
#786, the sprint is sort of ready.  I'm basically going to implement levels, 
and then a couple of the first animations.  If there's some time left, I'll 
work on the remaining animations (ordered in the "None" section of query 16)
2012-03-01 16:41:34+0000 mtyaka (mtyaka) is now online
2012-03-01 16:43:29+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, hey dude, can you check #786 and 
estimate some bananas for it?  Are you going to work on #838 this week?
2012-03-01 16:53:26+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, also, if you could check #851 for 
any bugs you might want to take on for this sprint... ;)
2012-03-01 17:04:10+0000 * antoviaque looking : )
2012-03-01 17:04:37+0000 <arbrandes> thanks :)
2012-03-01 17:04:54+0000 <antoviaque> arbrandes: yep, #782 has been around for 
a couple of sprints - we could move it to the technical debt story
2012-03-01 17:05:35+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, hmm, I was wondering what that 
story was, heheheh
2012-03-01 17:05:37+0000 <arbrandes> kewl
2012-03-01 17:07:17+0000 <antoviaque> yep, we need to keep an eye on it to make 
sure it doesn't become too big
2012-03-01 17:09:04+0000 <antoviaque> actually there is probably already matter 
for spending a sprint on it - I'd say after the tabs/tables/levels are all 
functional, could be good to spend time fixing at least a part of those
2012-03-01 17:09:19+0000 <antoviaque> some may not be really important though, 
and could be left off
2012-03-01 17:10:10+0000 <antoviaque> but better not let this accumulate to the 
point where we won't to even look at it :p
2012-03-01 17:11:43+0000 <arbrandes> antoviaque, we're on the same page - I 
just set it's order field to "1", and roughly estimated it's bananas at "13" 
(currently :P)
2012-03-01 17:11:47+0000 <arbrandes> *its
2012-03-01 17:12:36+0000 <arbrandes> At least this way we don't forget it 
exists.  I'm adding the topic to my "blocked by" list for tomorrow
2012-03-01 17:13:23+0000 <antoviaque> yep, but some stuff like #716 or #723 are 
actually nice'to-haves
2012-03-01 17:13:46+0000 <antoviaque> #833 can be done progressively - it's 
more a question of starting off the process
2012-03-01 17:14:06+0000 <antoviaque> some of the others are big, though
2012-03-01 17:14:40+0000 <arbrandes> That's what I was going to suggest: at 
every sprint planning session, we should at least look at the tech debt ticket 
and select something from it.
2012-03-01 17:15:00+0000 <antoviaque> yup, sounds good
2012-03-01 18:14:42+0000 <mtyaka> arbrandes: yup, I'm going to work on #838
2012-03-01 18:14:54+0000 <mtyaka> I entered 2 bananas for #786
2012-03-01 18:15:33+0000 <mtyaka> as far as the bugs are concerned, I could 
take a look at #843
2012-03-01 18:33:32+0000 <arbrandes> mtyaka, cool, thx!
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