On 10/26/16 12:08, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
> On mercredi, 26 octobre 2016 09.41:25 h CEST Douglas K, Rand wrote:
>> On 10/26/16 6:03 AM, Jörg Steffens wrote:
>>> Besides this, we had also some internal discussion about this.
>>> While upgrade to Full is a useful feature, it is normally not required
>>> if you use Accurate. Also besides update to Full, an upgrade to Accurate
>>> might also be an option.

>> Jorg, you are right about Accurate mode, which is enabled on our File
>> Set.  It seems that the rule "any change to a fileset"  is a bit heavy
>> handed with Accurate.
>>
>> For now I've reverted my File Set to avoid the problem and pushed the
>> exclude off the the clients via Puppet. I was lucky enough to have file
>> = "\\</usr/local/etc/bareos/excludes" already in my Excludes, so I
>> leveraged that instead of changing the File Set.)
>>
>> I'll noodle about the co-funding.
> 
> While the full needs after changes can be a burden, I'm  not 100% sure to 
> subscribe to not "forcing it" in a way or another.
> 
> Every admin will have one day or another a change to setup in its filesets.
> Accurate will pick that ok, but then the time to restore will come,
> and I beat on the fact that there will be a lot of complains about why "my 
> files are not there" expectation.
> The reason will be because at that time, the fileset didn't know about them,
> and nobody will remember at that time, a change occurs in the fileset, and no 
> full were made again.
> 
> I'm sorry if I'm not clear enough yet, I would like to see all the real 
> scenario before jumping saying "bravo".
> Perhaps we need a fileset version in the database ?
> 
> Or some options are minor, and other major ?
> 
> Isn't there a way to trick bareos with the content of fileset table ?
> like saving the date of the previous hash for a given ressource, make the new 
> one and bring back the old data ?

It does seem that the change the fileset and get a new full backup rule
is safest. And probably a good default. I was noodling about a "I'm
smarter than Bareos" option that would allow me to change a fileset and
take responsibility for not requiring the next backup be a full backup.

In my particular case the change is fairly innocent: The fileset starts
at / and backups up all local filesystems other than some directories
that are excluded. And my work around was to not add "File =
/project/tmp" to the Excludes stanza in the fileset, but instead add a
line to the excludes file on the client. Adding the line to the excludes
file on the client doesn't force a new backup and yet has exactly the
same result as adding it to the fileset.


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